Is It Too Early To Do Civil War?

Marvel studios is considering doing a civil war movie. But is it too early? Lets see.

Editorial Opinion
By DannRamm113 - Oct 14, 2014 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

Why would I say it's too early to do a Civil War movie?  Obviously Marvel will have about 15 films leading to it's release.  But, only 4 with Captain America.  Why does the amount of films with Cap matter?  Here is why:

Captain America The First Avenger is obviously the origin story for Steve Rodgers.  In the 1940's Steve Rodgers is a soldier during World War II that becomes a super soldier.  At the end he is frozen and then thawed 70 years later, but we already know that.

The Avengers features Cap as a "man out of time".  He is displaced, and is unsure of the new world around him.  He spends most of his nights not sleeping due to fear.  And by the end of that movie, he is still a man out of time, looking to fit in.

Fast foward to Cap 2 The Winter Soldier.  I would say that he still isn't completely caught up with the ways of today.  Which is the problem.  In order for Captain America to be truly against the Superhero Registration Laws, he needs to know how they would affect the world of today.  I know there is still Age of Ultron, but even if by that movie he becomes completely caught up with the world and the reasons behind the laws, it would be as though he finally regains true pride in his country only to have it taken away, which is a lot of what Civil War is about:  Captain America going against America's interests.  The Winter Soldier showed him with good ole 1940's pride, he needs to finally know what the world is like by today's standards in order for a Civil War movie to work in my opinion.  Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, but sound off below!

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Pasto
Pasto - 10/14/2014, 10:11 AM
Why isn't there an article on Howard the Duck?
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/14/2014, 10:21 AM
it might be to early but i just want to see captain america & iron man go at it.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 10/14/2014, 11:09 AM
I dont think its necessarily too early.........there's just too many unresolved questions that should be answered before they open this all new can of worms. I loved the comic, and the MCU is my favorite film franchise, but I want to know.......

What happened to Red Skull...
Where's the REAL Mandarin...
Where's Bucky....
Whats going on in Asgard with Loki on the throne, and where's Odin at....
Where's Graviton...

So many questions..........so....many questions.......................
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 10/14/2014, 11:10 AM
Yeah im hoping AoS doesn't forget about Graviton.
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 10/14/2014, 11:13 AM
Yes
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 10/14/2014, 11:19 AM
Agree the MCU needs to be bigger before a civil war arc. I want to see the arc just not this soon.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 10/14/2014, 11:23 AM
Side note, always thought a civil war should of been done earlier in the comics. I mean if Rogers is against the hero registration, wouldn't he or other non mutant heroes be against mutant registration?
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 10/14/2014, 11:51 AM
This was worst news possible. I wanted to see a cap movie, not a Captain America vs Iron Man movie. With the search of Bucky and fighting cap villains like Baron Zemo
ruadh
ruadh - 10/14/2014, 12:19 PM
I don't see why being caught up with the times is necessary for him to fight for rights.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 10/14/2014, 12:47 PM
Yes it is a bit early... as an announcement. Im still taking it as a rumor. It does make sense sort of, but they keep alluding to stuff and then not following through. I feel like they should finish a certain Saga and then continue onto the next. There probably will be enough heroes by the time Avengers 3 comes out which will actually be The Civil War. Im sure there will either be a Black Panther or Ms. Marvel film to help round-out the world of heroes. Plus the Netflix shows will add a fair amount. Who says they wont add Frank Castle or Blade or Ghost Rider at any moment? Im sure Frank Castle at least will pop up somewhere. He is too rich a character and now they have the rights. They can use Blade and Ghost Rider for supernatural storytelling.


So...

Phase 3 looks like this soo far:

Cap 3
Guardians 2
Dr Strange
possible Black panther or ms marvel
possible Thor 3 or Hulk 2
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Defenders
Avengers 3
possible 3rd season of Agents of Shield

Heroes we know of...

Falcon, War Machine, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Captain America, Hulk, Black Widow, Vision, Quick Silver, Scarlett Witch, Ant Man, Dr. Strange, Thor, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, possibly Winter Solider, possibly Wasp, And all the possible Miracles popping up over the world. All the Specials from Agents of Shield that may be recruited. Even Possibly Skye or Coulson.

There are 17 heroes we know of and more that may pop up in the next slot of films and tv shows.

Civil War just may work. It will be a great break from such a normal film of Hero vs Villain. It will be good for the Franchise so they can break the Avengers again right before Thanos comes to earth. They may even stretch it out further and Do Masters of Evil for Avengers 4 instead of Thanos. Or Thanos puts together the Masters of Evil so he can infiltrate Worlds to collect his Infinity Stones.

If I were Marvel I would drag this out for awhile. By blending genres with their heros they can continue their reign. Everything just has to be good. Keep hiring the right people and compensate them for their work to sustain your brand.

Civil War may be early but it is a necessity to keep the franchise a foot.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 10/14/2014, 1:34 PM
Honestly, with these actors and filmmakers, it was now or never. If they wanted a true Civil War adaptation they would have needed Spidey, the F4, and a plethora of built up heroes. Spidey is still possible, F4 is out the window, and if they wanted the true amount of heroes it would take years and films upon films of building up to it. I don't think they can get realistically get much better than this. Now making Civil War in place of (or I guess combining the two, however you want to view it) before A3 is a bit of a headscratcher, but then again if you make a film like Civil War you're going to need to make a film showing its repercussions, which is understandable.
Joementum
Joementum - 10/14/2014, 1:52 PM
I imagine a montage where 20 or 30 new heroes will be shown registering or protesting. This would easily avoid several origin stories. Giving us fans tons of new easter eggs.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 10/14/2014, 1:59 PM
Why do Caps movies keep getting turned into mini Avenger films? Just curious as to why the movies focus is supposed to be Captain America, but a story like this will have to focus on other characters more. It will probably be small teams. 4 vs 4 or something like that. Mostly gonna focus on Rodgers and Stark. Just from Rodgers perspective. I doubt many events from the actual books will be in it. Im excited for this, just not sure why their using up a Cap film to tell it. Why not a stand alone event film?
ruadh
ruadh - 10/14/2014, 3:56 PM
@Wallymelon
"Phase 3 looks like this soo far:

Cap 3
Guardians 2
Dr Strange
possible Black panther or ms marvel
possible Thor 3 or Hulk 2
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Defenders
Avengers 3
possible 3rd season of Agents of Shield"

I don't agree with that, but the one thing we can say for sure is that we don't know when Phase 3 actually ends. Most are assuming, and possibly correctly, that all the announced release dates fall under Phase 3. I am supposing though that Phase 3 ends with Avengers 3, 5-5-17. That would actually mean Phase 3 is only 4 movies, along with possibly two seasons of AOS, and 2-3 Netflix series. And then GOTG 2 kicks off Phase 4, ending in 2019 with Avengers 4 (and presumably concluding the Thanos plot).

I don't have any evidence, just a hunch. The May, 2017 date has been skipped as far as naming what film is to be expected that weekend. Could be something like Thor 3, Black Panther, or...Avengers 3. All the talk recently of what Avengers 3 will be about, and include, etc etc, makes me wonder if it will actually happen a lot sooner than we're expecting.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/14/2014, 4:02 PM
@WYLEEJAY

To build on what I said in my previous comment, I do think Cap 3, if it's about Civil War, will still be completely Cap-centric. The story really boils down to two former allies having a difference of opinion. And the journey will show what Cap has to go through to stand up for what he believes in. It's not all that dissimilar from the log line of Cap 2.

But I also kinda suspect Phase 3 will be all about Civil War. Each film will show a different aspect of the conflict, from a unique perspective. Tony could well be the villain in all of them for all we know. And it would jive with what Feige said about Dr. Strange not being an origin story.

And also, yes, I am sure they'll introduce some new super humans in Cap 3 that will take his side, but ultimately it's really about him and how he handles the situation. I just don't think it'll be the only Civil War movie.

And that could be really amazing actually. All the Phase 1 movies, and seemingly Phase 2 as well, led into the big team movie. But all the solo ones stood on their own as well. Connected, but separate. To have a series of movies, and potentially a tv show and perhaps a Netflix series or two all telling the same story from different POVs would be pretty interesting. And it could well work, since Marvel knows the audience is following all their stories now. You don't have to worry that they'll skip the little space team movie, because...they didn't. The audience is along for the entire ride, so it's a pretty safe bet to do something like a mass story told over several films that are not direct sequels.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 10/14/2014, 5:04 PM
@ruadh. I like the sounds of that.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/14/2014, 5:27 PM
Right on...guess we'll see.
Lozzy
Lozzy - 10/14/2014, 6:09 PM
No its not too early considering there will be 3 Iron Man movies, 2 Captain American movies and 2 Avengers by the time Cap 3 comes out. I think what people are not understanding is that this will most likely not be exactly like the Civil War comic series. Instead it will probably be more focused on Steve Rogers/Tony Starks rivalry of ideologies and less to do with superheroes fighting each other.
Tylerman
Tylerman - 10/14/2014, 7:52 PM
If cap is leading his own team after AOU, we still don't know who's standing along side of Tony when Civil war hits. If you ask me, I think it might be avengers illuminati (Or something along those lines.)
GreenLantern519
GreenLantern519 - 10/14/2014, 7:53 PM
We're what, 10 movies in now?
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