EDITORIAL: Why Are The Avengers Actually Assembling?

EDITORIAL: Why Are The Avengers Actually Assembling?

We've heard so much news about The Avengers. Trailers, posters, tidbits, spoilers and scene descriptions, but there's one thing that we don't know: Why are they assembling? And that's the question I shall be examining in the following editorial...

Editorial Opinion
By MovieMaster - Feb 22, 2012 09:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic



To start off, I'd like to say what we know about the movie:

-It will draw inspiration from the 616 and Ultimate universe.
-Bruce Banner is brought on the team to study the Cosmic Cube as it is giving off Gamma radiation.
-The movie will be told from Captain America's perspective.
-Loki will be the main villain and will lead an alien army against Earth.
-Loki will go toe-to-toe against each Avenger.
-The opening of the movie will be a montage, bringing viewers up-to-date with the basics of the MCU.
-Red Skull won't make a cameo.
-None of the supporting characters from any of the previous movies will appear.
-The movie will have an after-credits-scene.
-There won't be any cameos from other heroes.
-The movie will attempt to explore the cosmic side of the MCU.

Everything else we've heard has been rumors/speculation. This whole editorial is mainly based off of the first and second points that I listed. Yesterday, I read Volume 1 of The Ultimates (entitled Super-Soldier) and thorouhgly enjoyed it. The actor references and movie sub-plot could've been left out (and Hulk saying he was horny for Betty was just plain creepy) but other than that it was a good modern update for the characters. Bruce Banner is portrayed as a type of lost soul in the story, and not appreciated by his teammates and SHIELD in general, especially in the scene where the team are thinking of actors that could play them in a movie and Steve Buscemi is cast as Banner. There are more parts, but I won't go into detail. He has completely given up being the Hulk and wants to focus on his scientific job, as he has been tasked as creating a new super soldier for The Ultimates, until they fish Cap from the arctic sea.

He is desperately trying to get back together with Betty Ross (if you can call it that) but she thinks he is an idiot and a waste of space, angering Banner. When you mix up being blasted by your ex(?)-girlfriend, failing at the task given to you and being an outcast in your workplace, the result is a very, very angry man and we all know it's not good to make Bruce Banner angry, right? And if you don't then you should be IP-banned from this site. He mixes sachets of Cap's blood with the Hulk serum and injects himself with it, because he misses being The Hulk and he wants to give the team something worthwile to fight. When reading the final fight scene, it reminded me of a scene description that was posted on CBM a few days ago (from IMDB) showcasing the scene where Iron Man, Cap and Thor all have a go at trying to fight the Hulk, but ultimately fail.

When reading this I wondered, "why is Hulk displayed as indestructible here?" and I think I've found the answer. As I said, the movie will take inspiration from The Ultimates and in Ultimates Bruce Banner was an outcast and will be that in the movie because he was Hulk and killed loads of people, blew shit up and is a threat etc. I believe that for some reason, SHIELD will have sachets of Cap's blood (the same blood used to turn Blonsky into the Abomination in The Incredible Hulk?) and mix them with some of his blood and then inject them into himself. That is if he's been cured of course. If he hasn't then he'll probably just inject a re-created version of the super soldier serum into himself.

But you're probably wondering to yourself, "if the article is about Hulk, then why is the title of the editorial Why Are The Avengers Assembling?" and I can answer that. It was suspected from when we first heard that Loki and his army would be the villains that SHIELD knew of the thread beforehand, and that's why they are assembling Earth's Mightiest Heroes. There was another theory that Nick Fury was assembling the team to control The Hulk, but from all the information we've gathered that clearly isn't the case. The real reason is actually a much simpler one: The Avengers are assembling to fight the fights that are too difficult and impossible for a regular human. In The Ultimates, Fury was worried that the whole project would be killed altogether as they were spending millions of dollars on a team that was just sitting around talking about who should play them in a movie. And that will probably be the same case in The Avengers, without the whole movie sub-plot though.


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DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 2/22/2012, 9:46 AM
Nick Fury is a VERY secretive man. That is All.
DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 2/22/2012, 9:46 AM
Great write-up BTW:)
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/22/2012, 10:03 AM
I think you're off the marker completely, I'm sorry.
In The Incredible Hulk, the Hulk shows an understanding of people - he is not some wild animal who is going to go and slaughter a hundred or even a dozen people just because he looses control and gives into some feral nature. It would be by accident, as in the Hulk threw a car at an enemy and it missed, killing people behind said enemy.

Also, we don't know that it will be told from Cap's perspective. Pretty sure it will be omniscient, as there are clearly many scenes (just in the trailers alone) that are absent Mr Rogers. Banner's recruitment by Black Widow, Black Widow's re-introduction, Loki squaring off with every Avenger separately, etc.

There may be a bit MORE focus on Cap, but he's not THE main man.

Also, we don't know for certain that some of the supporting cast from Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and The Incredible Hulk won't be in The Avengers. Gwyneth Paltrow was said to be on the set. Also, post-production filming can take place in a heart-beat, kept under wraps. I'm reminded of every post-credits Nick Fury scene as an example.

Another thing: why would Nick Fury bring a team of superheroes together for years (actual years), teasing the Avengers initiative, preparing for a threat, and then have everyone just palling around? No, this threat is already present, already building, already making itself slightly known.

Listen, I liked the Ultimates well enough when it was Millar and Hitch pushing out a cinematic storyline, but this is NOT the Ultimates we are dealing with.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/22/2012, 10:14 AM
I think Nick Fury thinks that 6 people can better assist the armed forces in beating an entire army.
DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 2/22/2012, 10:35 AM
@ncreb Those are the only "super" heroes he's aware of. He and SHIELD will be fighting too. He just knows he has a greater chance with those 6 superheroes.
Paulley
Paulley - 2/22/2012, 11:00 AM
Well Hulk doesnt have to go kill aload of people becuase they blamed Abomination Brooklyn rampage on him... so that aspect of public miss trust is already developed
calin88
calin88 - 2/22/2012, 11:38 AM
I still have an important question about Thor comming to Earth and what is said about no supporting cast returning from any of the MCU movies: does he live in cave now, or is he gone fishing or something when he is brought back? you can't call Thor from Asgard and not show Asgard or a familiar face, Heimdall maybe?
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 2/22/2012, 12:47 PM
The Thor on Earth aspect is a tricky one. He said SHIELD need only call him but he gave no means of communication. The rainbow bridge has been destroyed and I don't think it will be fixed anytime soon. So how can he come to Earth, especially specifically to be part of the Avenger team? My thinking is Thor has been brought to Earth either unexpectedly or unwillingly by the cosmic cube. It could be SHIELD messing with it or Loki but one side of the event will be surprised to find him on Earth. Or maybe he gets word that Loki is on Earth from Heimdall and finds another way.

As for the reasoning for the team assembling, Nick Fury CAN'T know about Loki's invasion. Loki himself didn't have it in mind until AFTER the events of Thor by which time the Avenger initiative was well under way. The programme may have merely been a way to keep these super powered and/or especially skilled people on the right side. Recruit them to your team and they are less likely to go rogue and cause trouble. The only "threat" reasoning for the team that will make sense would be an impending Alien Invasion (other than Loki's) spotted in space travelling our way. This forces SHIELD to assemble a team before the invaders arrive, only for a more sudden and unexpected threat to appear.
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 2/22/2012, 2:16 PM
@Tainted87- Since all your other points have been answered I'll answer one for you: Fiege or Whedon already said that the movie will be told from Cap's perspective. Plus, I'm certain that's the reason behind Fury assembling these heroes, because he even says in the traielr, "there was an idea to put together a team of heroes to fight the battles that we never could".

Question: If Howard Stark finds the Cosmic Cube in Cap, then how is it in Odin's treasure room in Thor and then back into SHIELD's hands?
95
95 - 2/22/2012, 3:20 PM
@MovieMaster

The Cosmic Cube wasn't in Thor, if I remember correctly.

@DCMarvelFreshman

Your insider information on The Avengers make you a GOD in my book.

How well known in the comics are Loki's army?
Bane2099
Bane2099 - 2/22/2012, 3:21 PM
@MovieMaster- To answer your question: they never showed the Cosmic Cube in Odin's treasure room in Thor, it was only mentioned by Red Skull in TFA that it WAS the jewel of Odins treasure room. Certain other artifacts were displayed but not the Cube. Skip to the end of TFA when it gets lost at sea, Stark finds it, and its been in S.S.R/S.H.I.E.L.D possesion ever since.
pOoPEE
pOoPEE - 2/22/2012, 3:27 PM
Thor gets to earth the same way Loki does using the space bridge shield made. They have Thors star chart from the Thor movie already. Hemiendal will tell Thor in advance they are going to open a bridge.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/22/2012, 4:25 PM
MovieMaster Great write up.

But where did you get this info?

The opening of the movie will be a montage, bringing viewers up-to-date with the basics of the MCU.

I believe it but could you link me to the source you heard that?

IDK. Not going to speculate any more. Waiting till May 4th to find out everything. :)
Ghostt
Ghostt - 2/22/2012, 6:44 PM
Whedon will have to explain why Fury assembled these superheroes AND why they have a better chance at defeating Loki's army than, say, thousands of badass US soldiers equipped with drones, missiles, stealth aircraft, and modern military weaponry. This will have to make sense for the whole thing to gel.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 2/23/2012, 1:56 AM
Ghost - US soldiers will do more damage to themselves than the enemy! The only way they win wars is through sheer numbers (you are the largest country after all), finance (again, largest country) and the British picking up the pieces and showing your men what to do!
Sanderman
Sanderman - 2/23/2012, 7:31 AM
@RonVitiate i think India and China have a far higher amount of people than the US
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 2/23/2012, 7:57 AM
Really? But aren't the Tesseract and the Cosmic Cube the same thing, as Loki grabs it and turns back into a Frost Giant or something like that? Idk. Oh and superotherside, that FX guy said so. Y'know, the one that got fired for saying Red Skull isn't in the movie? ;)
superotherside
superotherside - 2/23/2012, 9:42 AM
MovieMaster Oh thanks. Some how I missed that... lol. BTW you're thinking of the Casket of Ancient Winters in Thor. The Tesseract/Cosmic Cube are in Thor but in only one scene which is the after credits scene in the possession of Shield. :)

See the difference?

Casket of Ancient Winters




They look similar but are not the same object. Look them both up on Wikipedia for more information.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/23/2012, 9:43 AM
Oh btw the second pic is the Tesseract/Cosmic Cube thing.
Ghostt
Ghostt - 2/23/2012, 10:21 AM
@ronvitiate

I stated US soldiers due to the fact that in the previews it is America getting attacked. I am sure your British troops are very tough.

I won't retaliate against the rest of your comment due to the fact that is it so ignorant and misguided that I can only assume you are kidding....
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 2/23/2012, 11:02 AM
Lol, ohhh yeah I can't believe I never realised that!
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 2/23/2012, 12:26 PM
Sanderman - I meant size as in economic infrastructure, land and resources.

Ghostt - Sorry, re read what I wrote and it definitely came across more "assholey" than intended. It is a bit of a personal joke to us Brits that we have lost more casualties in recent wars to US fire than enemy fire but like I said, it wasn't meant to sound so ignorant and pathetic. Back to your original question, I think Fury wants to use the Avengers to spearhead an attack that is backed by SHIELD and the military and not use them instead of the 1000s of troops available. Personally I'd just point Hulk in the right direction and tell Thor to back him up and keep him on track!
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