Dark and Gritty isn't Always the Way to Go

Dark and Gritty isn't Always the Way to Go

After the success of The Dark Knight, there seems to be a movement to take comic book movies to a darker territory. But sometimes being a little lighthearted isn't so bad

Editorial Opinion
By jamedog - Feb 19, 2011 11:02 AM EST
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A few weeks ago, the awesome TMNT fan-film, Fight the Foot debuted online. After viewing it, I sent it to one of my friends who didn't enjoy it as much as I did. He said he didn't think the "dark and gritty" thing worked for Ninja Turtles and was sick everything trying to be overtly serious. I ended explaining to him the dark and serious nature of the Ninja Turtles comics and he finally came around, but his criticisms got me thinking.

Part of the reason for the success of Christopher Nolan's Bat-films is that he wanted to make them as un-super as possible, and tried to make his films seem like they take place in a world not too different from our own. This heightened realism was a huge hit with critics and audiences alike, and with good reason too, seeing there's only so much over the top super heroics we can handle. But after the massive success of The Dark Knight, everyone started calling for more dark and serious comic book movies. Word has it that The Amazing Spider-Man is far more serious than it's predecessors, producers have stated that the script for The Flash is dark and serious, same with early word on the Superman reboot. This past November, the trailer for Green Lantern made it's debut and a common complaint about it was that it wasn't serious enough. But does every comic book movie need to be dark and serious?

When judging the tone of a comic book movie, you really need to look at the source material. Dark, gritty, and realistic works for Batman, it could also work for heroes like Daredevil or Punisher, but not for all super heroes. It's all well and good that the filmmakers want to make The Amazing Spider-Man serious, but does it really need to be? Sam Raimi realized how sensational a story about a teenager bitten by a radioactive spider really is, so he set his films in a world that fit that story. When you watch the first three Spider-Man films, they're set in a very lighthearted cheesy world, it may not be realistic, but it works for the material. Setting Spider-Man in a more realistic world runs the risk of taking the audience out of a film because they won't buy him swinging from building to building in a hyper realistic atmosphere. Same with The Flash, how dark can a movie be about a guy who gets struck by lighting and immersed in chemical, and can suddenly run really fast?

As I said before, setting a movie in a world that's too realistic runs the risk of taking the audience out of the movie. I'll use some of Marvel's Ultimate books, while I enjoyed them, many times they went too far to show that they took place in a world like hours. Things like Tony Stark banging Shannon Elizabeth in Zero G and Betty Ross leaving Bruce Banner for Freddy Prinze Jr. does show that the comics take place in reality, but for me they just distracted too much from the story and sometimes came off as bad fan fiction (especially Hulk rampaging through New York looking for Freddy Prinze Jr.). People go to movies to escape from reality, and when movies try to hard to replicate reality then it runs the risk of losing the audience.

Plus, is a lighter comic book movie so bad? Look at Iron Man, it came out the same year as TDK but was very much the opposite. Iron Man took a far more comedic approach to the origin story, and this sense of self aware comedy helped make it a success with general audiences. Warner Brothers looks to be doing the same with Green Lantern but continues to get fanboy ridicule for it. Imagine for a minute that you aren't a comic book fan and someone is trying to explain Green Lantern to you: a story of a fighter pilot who joins an intergalactic police force armed with power rings that shoot lasers and can create anything you imagine.

Pretty cheesy right?

Green Lantern, much like Iron Man, is not a household name like other superheroes. Creating a far more light-hearted Green Lantern makes it easier for general audiences to accept the craziness happening on screen and enjoy the movie more. Making a second string superhero more comedic worked wonders for Iron Man and could very well do the same with Green Lantern.

So yes, we all enjoy dark, serious comic book movies, but not all of them should be like that. There is a such thing as being too serious, look at Superman Returns, Daredevil, and The Hulk, all three of those movies barely had a smile in them, and general audiences hated them. So when we come to wanting to see a serious comic book movie, we should really ask if it's best for us, the audience, or is it best for the film?

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TheShadow
TheShadow - 2/19/2011, 11:35 AM
Well, to be honest Batman is supoosed to be dark, I don't think I have ever seen him laugh or smile outside those crappy cartoons.
golden123
golden123 - 2/19/2011, 11:53 AM
The general audience didn't hate Superman Returns. The comic book fans did, and the Daredevil movie wasn't exactly a victim of being to serious.
Exiles
Exiles - 2/19/2011, 12:40 PM
theres a big difference between making a serious and dark CBM. Iron Man sure had a lot of comedy and it was fun but it wasn't campy like batman and robin it was "serious" take on Iron Man as it could get. Obviously dark and gritty suits batman but Superman, NO! the spidey reboot has to be more serious then its predecessor but it shouldn't be dark. Superman should live in a serious world, maybe even a "gritty" one but he shouldn't "dark" or "brooding". But good article though and your friend has a valid point, all this obsession with "dark" and "gritty" is becoming a bit ridiculous.

@Golden123 I don't what the hell your talking about but I am pretty sure the general audience found Superman Returns absolutely BORING.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/19/2011, 2:01 PM
batman is suppose to be dark & gritty,along with wolverine,daredevil,ghost rider & so on.

just take a look at batman (60s tv show),batman forever,batman & robin & that awful batman brave & the bold for examples of light & campy batman.

superman should be lighter in tone,but with darker moments i.e doomsday & superman's death.
golden123
golden123 - 2/19/2011, 3:40 PM
@marvel72: Doomsday & Superman's Death didn't exactly make the character himself dark. Personally, I think people hear the word death and translate it to be dark.
@Exiles: I don't know what your talking about but only people going in expecting a hardcore action were disappointed. Most people weren't.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 2/19/2011, 3:46 PM
The FF flicks were light-hearted and rightly so. But people hated them anyway.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/19/2011, 3:56 PM
@ golden123

you're right,i meant the film should have a lighter tone to it & dark moments.

not the character himself,also i think killing a character in film or comics does darken a the mood of the story.
golden123
golden123 - 2/21/2011, 1:35 PM
@marvel72: It all depends on how the death is treated.
deathoncredit
deathoncredit - 2/21/2011, 4:12 PM
Scorsese is dark and gritty, Dostoevsky is dark and gritty...Batman is a guy who runs around dressed like a Batman and doing karate moves on bad guys. The Dark Knight wasn't half as dark and gritty, or realistic, as people make it out to be.

Anyways, I agree with the writer of this editorial. In my opinion, the more film-makers try to push how deadly serious these comic book characters are, the more ridiculous they come across to non-comic readers like myself.
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