GOTG VOL. 3 Star Pom Klementieff Reportedly Still Attached To Play HUNTRESS In The DCU

@GreenAerrow - indeed

@GreenAerrow - that sounds like an awful Pizza

@dragon316 - which was a major drawback to her portrayal. Why I prefer Yelena more than the mcu black widow

@Forthas - or they can be talented enough to play be appropriate to play more than one part since they’re actors/actresses.

@Clintthahamster - Nolan also hires actors for multiple movies yet Gunn gets flack for it. Cillian Murphy was both scarecrow in Batman and Oppenheimer and that worked out pretty well. Hiring actors for different movies is not a big deal. People want to work with people they like and if it fits the role, then I don’t really see problem.

@Forthas - how do we know no one else auditioned? One would think Chris Pratt is also portraying Superman in the upcoming movie. It’s not the same exact actors for every movie but people complain no matter what, whether it’s a real problem or not. People can portray more than one role and people want to work with people they like.

@Forthas - not every role requires auditions of a lot of actors and to some degree there prob isn’t auditions but that doesn’t make it wrong. People want to work with people they like and if they have a history together and know how they work, again this isn’t a big deal. A lot of these characters are also cgi so they can portray multiple roles. Again, Gunn isn’t the only director that does this, not that two wrongs make a right, but this really isn’t an issue unless you want to make it an issue.

@Forthas - I’m a special education teacher for a private school. It’s actually pretty difficult getting into a public school because it’s who you know, not necessarily what you know but it is what it is. I love my job, but, I do get the politics of it all. I’m not going to get upset over it because things have a way of working out and it’s what you make of it. There were people at my job who also had favoritism which is frustrating, but again, life’s too short. On the flip side, this is a movie and it’s not that serious. I get wanting to work with people you like and actors in general have to portray different people. Sean Gunn was a completely cgi character in suicide squad and is now max lord, oh no!! I think maybe working with special needs I’m able to put things in perspective. Even though Pom was in guardians of the galaxy, to me she fits the part for huntress and not going to get worked up on if she gets the part.

@Forthas - I’ve made peace with it and the grass isn’t always greener. In general I’m pretty happy and thankful for what I have. There’s a lot of actors who aren’t good so I get wanting to hire people you know you think are good without going through the process. Time is money and life is short, so I get both perspectives. Sorry your dream of directing didn’t work out but maybe you can still do it as a hobby?

@Forthas - yeah most directors and studios work with the same actors after they develop a relationship with them. Nolan and Micheal Caine, Scorsese and deniro, Wes Anderson and bill murry, Sam L Jackson in Tarantino movies..... the whole Adam Sandler gang lol A lot of directors have a little crew they like to work with. At least he tried casting someone new as superman.... we'll see how that works out though

@Forthas - I’m sorry but I’m not losing sleep if Pom is cast as huntress even though she was already in guardians of the galaxy or if Batista is cast as bane even though he was Drax. There’s plenty of newer actors in these roles roles. If he cast Pratt as Superman and Zoe Saldana as Lois, then I can see your point, but this is really grasping at straws. The parts the actors are in now are pretty different from past parts they’ve had. Huntress is extremely different compared to mantis. But you’re so stuck on disliking Gunn for whatever reason that you won’t change your opinion. It is what it is. I suggest you find a more meaningful cause that might actually help people instead of being angry on the keyboard. 😊

@Forthas - Comparing artists choosing who they work with based on prior experience to war and poverty is pretty [frick]ing wild. Setting that aside, since I'm up early on a quiet Sunday morning, I'm gonna make an effort to explain my position, from both historical and practical standpoints, if you'll bear with me . . .

The idea of a "stock company" goes back hundreds of years, and was the standard approach to casting dramatic performances up until relatively recently. An acting company would have a finite number of performers, each of which could play certain types of roles regardless of which production they were working on. It goes back at least to the 16th Century–where the Globe Theatre produced most of Shakespeare's plays–up through the 19th and early-20th Century vaudeville, and into the late-20th century with companies like Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago. The modern improv theater scene (The Groundlings, Second City, etc) still work off a similar schema, as do repertoire theater companies around the world.

Looking at cinema, as the beginning of the "Sound Era" c. 1927 began to run the old Vaudeville circuit out of existence, the Hollywood Studio system quickly replaced it, with studios maintaining a stock company of performers to fill certain types of roles. A good meta glimpse into this structure is the series of Pre-Code "backstage" musicals produced by Warner Bros in the early 30s, films like Footlight Parade, 42nd Street, the Gold Diggers series, etc, all of which feature some combination of the same actors (Ruby Keeler, Dick Powell, Joan Blondell, and Guy Kibbee) playing the same general types of roles (ingenue, romantic lead, femme fatale, father figure) in film after film.

As the Studio System faded (late 40s to late 60s) the maverick directors and independent producers that represented "New Hollywood" still tended to work with the same stock cast. Robert Altman, Roger Corman, Peter Bogdonavich, Bob Rafelson, Martin Scorcese, etc. That tradition carries on today, favored by filmmakers who were mentored or inspired by that previous generation.

All of which is to say, while auditions have always been standard in terms of getting into one of these companies, usually, once you're in, you're in.

That's the historical context. From a practical standpoint, to put it bluntly, the audition process is both costly and time consuming, and you don't always see the results on screen. Small independent productions working on a shoestring budget are often cast and crewed by friends of the producer or director by necessity, because they'll work cheap and they're a known quantity. If a filmmaker has success, and especially if they don't, they may choose to save time and money by working with the artists with whom they've had fruitful collaborations before. And yes, this confers an advantage on the players if the filmmaker is successful, and yes, sometimes it results in sub-par performances (Sofia Coppola in Godfather 3 being a famous one, though I'm sure we could all list several more.) But that's hardly the only advantage a performer can bring, and hardly the only reason why there are bad performances.

At the end of the day, art is subjective, which means finding the "best person for the job" is too, and there's often no way to know whether the person you've hired is the best option until it's far too late to make a change.

I took a look at the article you posted, and even the examples it provides of the kind of "a star is born" moment that actors dream of were themselves members of stock companies: Lana Turner was under contract with MGM, meaning that she got an unfair advantage over any actor that wasn't under contract; John Wayne starred in a staggering 24 films directed by John Ford over the course of 30 years; Marilyn Monroe didn't work with the same directors more than once or twice, but she certainly had an affair with an executive at William Morris Agency who helped her get her roles in All About Eve and The Asphalt Jungle, which in turn led to her signing to a studio contract with 20th Century Fox.

One name that wasn't mentioned is Nic Cage, though he's often cited as having changed his name so he could succeed on his own terms without assistance from his famous uncle, but his first two credited parts were under the name Nicolas Coppola, and of his first five films credited as Nicolas Cage, three of them were directed by his famous uncle.

All of which is to say that, yes, sometimes people get roles because of favoritism based on previous collaborations, doesn't mean they aren't the best person for the job. And insisting that every filmmaker cast a wide net to cast each role for each movie they make would significantly increase the time and money required to make each film. I'm not sure it's worth the tradeoff . . .

@Nolanite -

@dagenspear - yes she is Italian half Italian and American

@TheVisionary25 - the bloodhounds series on netflix would be a good template as well. They could get the writers from that show