Lost: Episode 6:17 The End

Lost: Episode 6:17 The End

The end indeed. Arguably the most anticipated series finale in history has been and gone and there are a lot of happy, sad and furious fans! Click to get my take on it, and a look at why I think Lost became the phenomenon that it did...

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - May 24, 2010 05:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi



I remember the first time I caught Lost on tv, it was the second or third ep I think. It didn't seem too impressive at first, but something about it made me watch the following week..and well, here we are! It was the characters. Sure the mysteries of the island kept me glued too, but that was only a setting for these people's lives and stories to play out. The format of focusing on a different character every week and giving them a flashback (then forward, then sideways) allowed for some of the best character development in any series we have ever seen. The writing -- while at times confusing of course -- was top notch and the performances first class. It had its problems too -- it was a bit too glossy sometimes, and required a few dozen leaps of logic a week while we wondered how on earth everyone's hair and make up stays the same! But that sort of thing is nit picking when everything that's really important is of such a high standard. But then came season 3, and when the show began to answer questions with more questions, and took a pretty definitive veer into sci-fi territory a lot of fans lost patience and wrote it off as simply being made up as the writers went along week by week. That may have been the case at times, but isn't that true of every episodic tv show? No entire story is ever written in one sitting after all. Maybe they are pulling our legs when they say they always had a definite beginning middle and end, but one thing's for sure, after they knew that season 6 would be the last they certainly shifted gears in preparing for the big send off. I got frustrated too, and some episodes were very disappointing, but I am glad that I stuck with it.



The finale will certainly be a divider. I have already seen heated debate online and outright abuse leveled at the show's finish. I'm not going to do my usual recap of events and instead just talk about the big picture. Did we get the answers we wanted? Not really -- certainly, I have more questions! But then from another perspective we got the only answer worth getting, and the only one that's really important. We see what happens at the end, before that, we get some damn fine action and drama. This one really does play out like a Lost movie. I would have been very happy watching it at the cinema. Jack and Un-Locke have their final confrontation in which Jack is mortally wounded and Un-Locke killed after being made mortal by Desmond taking a rock out of a hole! Yeah, we don't really find out how or why, or what this cave of light really is -- I mean I assume it's supposed to be the center of life, death, rebirth..everything. The epicenter of something which burns in all of us. Again, would have been nice to get a proper answer, but for me it just wasn't that important in the end. We find out that Richard and Frank are alive (yay) and they and Miles make it to the Ajira plane and do some pretty damn miraculous repairs (remember those leaps of logic?). Jack stays to put the rock back in the hole with Hurley and Ben, while Sawyer and Kate race to make the plane. They do, and Frank gets them in the air. Meanwhile Jack hands over the responsibility of the island to Hurley because he knows he won't be coming back from the cave. Ben stays too, as Hurley's "number 2". So Jack manages to turn on the light again, as everyone in the flashsideways world lets go and wakes up to the realization that they are in fact dead. Jack is the last to do so and meets his father at a church, before joining his friends and moving on somewhere. Heaven? I dunno, that would imply that they are in purgatory first and I really don't think that's it. To me it seems more like their collective consciousness' creating this place themselves. Like Christian says, somewhere for them all to come back to to be with the people that had the biggest impact on their lives. As we see island Jack succumb to his wounds in the same spot he landed on the island in, with Vincent lying by his side and his friends flying overhead in the Ajira plane, the final shot of Lost is Jack Shepard's eye closing, just as it was his eye opening in the pilot. It's pretty emotional stuff. All through this, the sideways characters revelations as they come to terms with what is happening really gets the lump in the throat going! But of course that "they were dead all along" ending has caused some outrage, and also some confusion. I'm not sure how anyone that was actually listening to what was being said could think this, but a lot of folks online seem to think that they were dead all along, from the first plane crash. This is not the case -- everything that happened happened, they just met up in the afterlife when they all EVENTUALLY died, because like Christian said to his son, they needed each other. It sounds sappy, but sometimes theirs nothing wrong with sappy! These friends that experienced so much and ultimately strove to overcome their own failings and live together instead of dying alone received their reward when they passed on. So we don't get a lot of answers, we don't find out what type of lives Sawyer, Kate, Frank, Desmond, Miles, Richard, Hurley and Ben lived after the island. Would it have been nice to know? To find out everything? Of course, but ultimately, at least for me, it didn't matter. For me the Lost finale was disappointing in some ways but after watching it again just now, I realized that it was only because it wasn't what I was expecting, and maybe not how I would have liked to see things end -- but then I didn't really want it to end! I think if all along the most important thing for you was the show's mysteries and getting answers to specific questions (and don't get me wrong, I wanted some too) then you will have been disappointed. Certainly there are some huge plot holes, and thinking back over the earlier seasons, outright baffling plot choices. But if you loved Lost because of the characters then you will be happy with how things went for the most part I think. I can't argue with the outraged masses either though, I think if your disappointed you have good reason to be. But maybe after a bit of time to mull it over, and maybe even a second watch, you might think that maybe this wasn't such a bad send off for these folks after all. Cheerio Lost, thanks for the memories -- and for putting Kate in that dress for the finale:)



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InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 5/24/2010, 6:09 PM
I'll say the same thing I said in superdog's review at Earth's Mightiest :)

The fact that the show is actually over, finito, the end, just hasn't sunk in yet. As I saw the "Lost" screen come up at the end for the last time, I was just sitting there, staring at the screen. I honestly feel a little like Jack, it's never easy for me to "let go" of something, and letting go of this amazing, amazing series is harder than telling Locke what he can't do! ;P

I will give the finale its due, it packed a hell of an emotional punch for me. Jack and Man In Locke's fight, Jack's laugh when he realizes that his suicide mission worked, all of the moments where the Sideways-characters understand who they are, Jack's final conversation with Christian (definitely one of my favorite scenes of the episode, and even the series) Jack's final journey to his resting place, the reunion of all the characters in the church, Vincent popping up for one last time, and finally, his eyes closing. Just breathtaking. And I suppose you are right. Being emotionally touched and moved by the characters of the show is the entire point and is more important than knowing every little detail about why and how. At first, I was, admittedly, pretty pissed that we actually found out relatively little. But f*ck it, knowing all the why's and how's doesn't compare to the emotional payoff the finale gave IMO, due to all the great characters. Still can't believe that it's over, but I'll come around eventually.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 5/24/2010, 6:17 PM
I loved it. I know what you mean Tyler. Knowing that it's gone is really weird. I know nothing lasts forever, but I don't want to let go of it. LOST was one of a kind.
MercWitaMouth88
MercWitaMouth88 - 5/24/2010, 6:24 PM
never watched the show and now hearing that they were actually dead the whole time makes me not want to watch the show. Sounds like an easy out for the writers and producers.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/24/2010, 6:27 PM
They weren't dead the whole time. Why do I get the impression that thats is a sentence we will be seeing typed for a looong time online!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/24/2010, 6:28 PM
Excellent review ROR! :)

I think it would be easy to get angry about how the show ended as well as all of the unanswered questions (some big, some small) that we'll never get the answers to!

However, after watching 98mins of television as superb as that it's hard to complain. We may not know exactly what happenned to the characters but they all ended up getting a "happy" ending in the closing seconds of the show regardless of what happenned after they got off the island, or in Hurley and Ben's cases, stayed there.

The characters never really got any definitive answers about the island and neither did we. I guess that's just life - there are some things we'll never understand! In many ways, that actually makes me feel better about not getting all the answers as there are things in life, or at least the world of Lost, which may be beyond our understanding!

I guess I was hoping for, or expecting, the show to end differently so it will always be a slight let down in some respects but it was a brilliant finale to one of the best shows ever made. The characters were always the most important part of Lost and the fact that they all got a great send off is good enough for me!

I thought that the closing scene with Jack was beautifully shot while other moments in the finale - Charlie and Claire remembering each other for example - had me in tears! :P I definitely think that the creators had an idea about how it would end but a lot of it was made up as they went along! Regardless, TV will be all the poorer without it!
SoulAllFlush
SoulAllFlush - 5/24/2010, 6:28 PM
They were not dead the whole time, Merc.

In the final season, instead of flashbacks there were what we thought was flashsides - infact they were flashforwards to the after life when everyone had died. The island was real and not a dream.


Loved Lost and I loved the finale
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 5/24/2010, 6:29 PM
a great end to a great show! 10/10 5 stars and two thumbs up!
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 5/24/2010, 6:30 PM
i mean after all - it's just a TV show. and a damn fine one.

it's not science class and its not church. it's a tv show .... and a GOD damn fine one!
superdog
superdog - 5/24/2010, 6:39 PM
hey guys a i did a review of the finale and the whole series at earthsmightiest. check it out please :)

http://www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/everythingcool/news/?a=7051
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/24/2010, 6:43 PM
Guys, you've got to watch these - they're excellent! :D

superdog
superdog - 5/24/2010, 6:44 PM
josh@ they are hilarious. saw them this afternoon.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 5/24/2010, 6:46 PM
robert@ dude, seriously. im not married but when LOST helps me define relationships in my life i don't know if that a good thing or a bad thing! haha. i wanna call up this girl and tell her she's my constant but im not THAT big of a lost nerd lol

it's just so relevant to the human condition.
superdog
superdog - 5/24/2010, 6:48 PM
josh@ thanks for checking out my review. :)
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 5/24/2010, 6:49 PM
Excellent review. I basically had the same reaction. disappointed that a few questions were either not answered or answered poorly. As far as story and character closure the pay off wage in my opinion. Certainly one of the most creative, original, well written TV dramas I have ever watched.

How anyone could take away that the characters had all been dead the whole time is beyond me. Maybe cynical from the endings of Newhart and Dallas but probably just not paying attention well enough.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/24/2010, 6:49 PM
so wait, LOST ended last night?? lol

just kidding, i never got into it, i watched the first season and then never got around to watching the rest. my girl has all the seasons on DVD, i guess i'll check them out.

so...they really aren't dead the whole time?? like ROR said, i've seen that all over the net all day today.
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 5/24/2010, 6:54 PM
@Odin I think being able to learn things about oneself and others from fiction is a great thing. And I think your making the right choice in not going Lost nerd stalker style.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/24/2010, 6:54 PM
superdog: Lol, I watched The Sopranos for the first time earlier this year and the ending really pissed me off at the time but the Lost spoof is hilarious! And no worries man - it's an excellent write up!

Guys, check out Superdog's Lost finale and series review!!! Just click the link! :)
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 5/24/2010, 6:58 PM
Good to see MOST people here understand what actually happened, haha. Gonna miss it.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 5/24/2010, 6:59 PM
Doesn't look like everyone is picking up on the fact that the detonation of the H-bomb is what created the afterlife in the first place, though...
starsofwar
starsofwar - 5/24/2010, 6:59 PM
They were NOT dead the whole time, people that are saying this are usually the same people that complained about the show throughout it's running. That leads me to believe that the reason that people complained about it is that they just didn't get it and were probably completely wrong about many things regarding "Lost"
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 5/24/2010, 7:00 PM
Juggy@ Hahaha yeah i know my limits.

CDB@ no they were NOT dead the whole time. some people just couldn't grasp the fact that it's a fantasy/ sci-fi show and needed concrete answers to everything. the end is open for debate but the all of the island stuff really happened while they were alive.
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 5/24/2010, 7:03 PM
@Josh I had not seen those thanks! The Newhart one was awesome.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 5/24/2010, 7:03 PM
Yes, they were VERY NOT DEAD. We need to start spreading this like a damn virus.
superdog
superdog - 5/24/2010, 7:06 PM
cbm@ they all died at different times in their lives after the plane crash. some on the island (jack, boone shannon) some after the events of the show (kate, hurley, sawyer etc...). everything that happened on the show happened, darma and everything. penny was in the church like everyone else because the island events were the most important times in thier lives. even though penny was never on the island what happened to desmond thier and how it impacted thier life was obviously very important.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 5/24/2010, 7:07 PM
CBM-- They died when they died. Everything we saw really happened. They created the "afterlife" by detonating the H-bomb in the season 5 finale, and through doing that they were all able to be together again.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/24/2010, 7:09 PM
CBM: Ha, I know exactly what you mean - I'm avoiding thinking of all those things because I know that if I start trying to figure all that out, my brain might just explode!

For example, did the detonation of the H-Bomb mean that they never crashed there in an alternate universe? And there are so many questions about the actual island and how it all worked to consider! I mean, how di-

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My head suddenly hurts. :P
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/24/2010, 7:10 PM
Galactus, I think she was just there for Des. Its hard to know if that whole afterlife thing wasn't some type of metaphor. When I was watching it I thought the only explanation for why certain people are and are not present is because it was just Jacks consciousness passing on and everyone he wanted there was there..but then I remembered that all of characters had sideways stories of their own! So yeah, a bit confusing that one.

Heyvanity, I'm not sure about the H bomb creating the afterlife, maybe..its a good theory.
Gigacrusher45
Gigacrusher45 - 5/24/2010, 7:10 PM
THEY WEREN'T DEAD THE WHOLE TIME.
THEY WEREN'T DEAD THE WHOLE TIME.
THEY WEREN'T DEAD THE WHOLE TIME.

Answers
1) The island was a purgatory on earth that was a station between the after life and "hell"(hence the wine bottle reference) but doesn't mean people on the island are dead hence why people could go back and forth from the island.

2) The symbolic light of the island was the heart or source of its power which in "real" terms gave off electromagnetic energy.

3) Someone must govern this station (God to heaven, Satan to hell, etc...) because of the situation Jacob had with the Man in Black AND the rules his mother had set, he needed to find someone else to take his place and actually do a BETTER job then he is doing (hence the defeat of the man in black instead of just simply keeping him on the island)

4) Turning off the power source did what both Jack and Un-Locke wanted. Un-Locke knew it would destroy the island but would give Jack the chance to change the rules (being the new Jacob) and kill Un-Locke (Man in Black)

5) Desmond had a resistance to electromagnetic energy from exposed to it so long while pressing the button and why he could go into the light.

6) If you watch the episode The Constant (S4) we see Desmond had breached the islands barrier. That energy mixed with his exposure to the electromagnetic energy let him pass between the true purgatory (sideways world) and reality. Happened when the hatch imploded also.

7) The true purgatory was their lives continuing from the moment where the most important part of their lives began (the plane crash, hence it landing) and they lived in this purgatory living their life as best as it could be (considering who else was in purgatory first)

8) The nuclear bomb at the end of season five gave everyone that connection to true purgatory (sideways world) that Desmond had the whole time but didn't realize it until they connected to the people who are most important to them and TOGETHER can move on to the afterlife.

9) The sideways world or true purgatory is a place of no now or then (just as Christian Shepard said) hence why they can all be their at the same time even though they didn't die at the same time.

10) Kate says "I missed you" meaning she lived her life after the island and hasn't seen Jack until she died and met him in purgatory. Also Hurley and Ben " You're a good number one/number two" meant they also lived on governing the island.

11) Ben doesn't go into the church because he is still not ready to pass to the afterlife because of the "bad" things he's done (asking and getting Lockes forgiveness was his first big step)

12) The church had many symbols and covered many religions and beliefs hence why they never actually STATE certain things (like saying Jacob IS God) because they cover EVERYTHING.

The show is about destiny, faith, unity, transcendence, and beliefs of ALL KIND which is something you CAN'T put a single label on or A STRAIGHT ANSWER. Some of this stuff I might be able to explain better but this is what it is now.
superdog
superdog - 5/24/2010, 7:19 PM
cigar@ i agree with pretty much everything except your first answer. i do not believe the island was purgatory on earth or anywhere else. i think it was just a freaky island with all kinds of strange stuff going on. but not a purgatory. purgatory is when you die, and they were not dead so its just a freaky island. MO anyway. could be wrong,

vanity@ i dont think jughead had anything to do with the afterlife sideways. i believe it just went off, counter acted the EM explosion and sent them forward in time again. i think the sideways is exactly what christian said it was, a place they created to find eachother so they can move on together.

ror@ the jack consciosness thing is going around the net as well, but as you said since they had thier own stories and thier own awakenings, and the hurly/ben conversation which jack would no nothing about points to not being his consciousness. and why create his son and all that stuff if he just wanted to see everyone before he left.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 5/24/2010, 7:20 PM
Ror-- I'm actually fairly certain it was the H-bomb. Of course they don't spell it out for you, but going by the Lost curve there was a lot pointing to that. Remember the whole point of setting off the bomb was to set everything back the way it was.. as if the plane never crashed. It was said earlier that they wouldn't be able to change the past. Of course Daniel changed his mind later on, thinking that they could change it, but I think he had figured that they could change SOMETHING, not necessarily the past itself. After they detonated the bomb the sideways flashes immediately started. Also, remember when they found Juliet in the hole, she said "it worked," and we never found out how. I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that they created this afterlife that way. Although, like I said, they don't spell it all out for you, so it's ultimately up to everyone's personal interpretation. But I personally think that's about as straight an answer as they've given us.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 5/24/2010, 7:23 PM
Everything that happened on the island, from "Pilot" to "The End" was real. It all happened.

The "alternate universe" was a sort of "meeting place" created by the characters themselves where all those who have been affected by the island and have bonded together can go, since it was the most important times of their lives, as Christian Shepherd said. They needed to see each other to move on "to the next phase" and to let go of their pasts, because they grew so close to each other and formed such a strong familial bond.

In a sense, the "purgatory" that they created could be seen as a flash forward, as it is technically occurring after everyone has died, which would be in the future, technically speaking. Some people died on the island, and some after, such as Sawyer, Kate, etc. They created their own universe with their own, ideal versions of their stories, which explains why the alternate universe had changes made to the characters. Once they found each other in this purgatory, they would remember their island life and would be able to let go of everything, which would allow them all to move on, to presumably Heaven.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/24/2010, 7:23 PM
@Superdog...Yeah I don't think its that, its because his death is shown at the same time as his passing on is why people think that I reckon. But thinking too much about the sideway land does raise some more interesting questions. Like are we to assume that the survivors never formed any other significant relationships afterwards? When they awakened surely they remembered there lives post island too? No husbands or wives?
Codeseven
Codeseven - 5/24/2010, 7:31 PM
My wife and I really enjoyed the finale. We were both very happy that all of the questions were not answered and that whatever happens with Sawyer and company is up in there air. So many things were left open for interpretation and I thought that that was the beauty of the finale. So many people wanted all of their questions answered but I, personally, am glad that they left some open.
blankofthedead
blankofthedead - 5/24/2010, 7:38 PM
how can everyone love a show that leaves so much lazily unanswered? you shouldnt need to guess and argue what means what.. thats jsut unsatisfying. And is there a comic for this show? doubt it.
lalosuper3001
lalosuper3001 - 5/24/2010, 7:41 PM
OMG! SO THEY WERE DEAD THE WHOLE TIME? I KNEW IT FROM THE FIRST SEASON. THAT MAKES ME SO ANGRY! I TOLD MYSELF "THEY ARE DEAD", THEY ARE IN SOME KIND OF PURGATORY.
lalosuper3001
lalosuper3001 - 5/24/2010, 7:42 PM
AND I WAS RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME!
THEY WERE DEAD ALL THIS TIME!
lalosuper3001
lalosuper3001 - 5/24/2010, 7:43 PM
OH MY GOD! I AM SO GLAD I NEVER EVER WATCHED THIS SHOW. EVER...:) LOL.
Blackreverend
Blackreverend - 5/24/2010, 7:50 PM
@ ROR - Amazing review dude... I agree with both you and JOSHW. the emotional richness of the finale was enough to satisfy me.

My favorite scenes were when Kate & Jack finally declared the feelings for one another and when Sawyer & "Blondy" reunite.

@ GIGACRUSHER - Thank you so much for these revelations... It all makes sense now.
lalosuper3001
lalosuper3001 - 5/24/2010, 7:50 PM
I heard The Doctor arrives in his TARDIS and saves the day. Is this true? I don't want spoilers, but if this rumor is true, let me know. That would totally make me a fan of this show. JK. I have seasons 1-5 on Netflix. I may start watching it tonight. (But if it turns out they were really dead, you will hear from me...>(
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