Wait, There's A Thirteenth Doctor? It's WHO! But Then, Who's the Twelfth? (Spoiler's Ahead!)

Wait, There's A Thirteenth Doctor? It's WHO! But Then, Who's the Twelfth? (Spoiler's Ahead!)

Celebrating 50 years of excellence, the record breaking science fiction epic has left "Whovians" wanting more. Well, would the appearance of a 13th Doctor do the trick? What if the 13th is already here and you never knew? But that's not possible...is it? According to the "Daily Mirror", it is! (Spoiler alert).

By Oxion - Nov 25, 2013 06:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi
Source: Daily Mirror

"The Day of the Doctor" has come and gone and many phone-booth faithfuls have been left to soak in their own sticky nerdgasms. But if that wasn't enough of a climax for you, it appears there's still plenty left to be excited about come Christmas. According to the Daily Mirror, the Eleventh Doctor, portrayed by Matt Smith, will be succeeded by Peter Capaldi. He made his Who debut in a blink and you'll miss it moment during the 50th anniversary special. So which doctor is the mysterious 13th if the 12th has already made his appearance?

Matt Smith will be revealed as the 'final' 13th Doctor! Fans will have plenty to wonder about however as the 13 Doctor , and his death, is said to be a mark as the ending of the series' 50 year story. So where does Peter fit in?

The show's executive producer Steven Moffat goes on to say," The 12 regenerations limit is a central part of Doctor Who mythology - science fiction is all about rules, you can't just casually break them.
"So if the Doctor can never change again, what's Peter Capaldi doing in the Christmas special?"

With Matt Smith now confirmed as the 13th Doctor in the upcoming Christmas episode, it would appear that the rules of science fiction have some bending room with the introduction of the 12th. I mean, they wouldn't introduce a new actor just to end it so abruptly, would they?

Moffat goes on to add a bit more seasoning to the marinade by stating that,"The riddle of the regeneration problem, something fans have talked about for decades, will be faced head on at Christmas. There is going to be another huge cliffhanger and somehow Peter Capaldi has to join and the series has to continue."

Makes you wonder huh? Or maybe you already saw this coming? Well too bad we aren't Time Lord's, otherwise we could just answer that question right now. What do you think about this bit of information? SOUND OFF!

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TopCat89
TopCat89 - 11/25/2013, 7:08 AM
I'm from the UK and not sure if the Daily Mirror is in the US, but here it's known for posting bullshit now and then....

If it turns out to be true....pretty shit for the actor Peter Capaldi...his only appearance as the Doctor being a split-second close up shot of his face......

All sounds very unlikely to me....i'm not actually a fan of the Doctor Who series, but i caught the latest episode as i was curious after all the hype. I caught Peter Capaldi's brief appearance....i doubt that's all they'd use him for, he's a pretty good actor!

That's my two cents anyway

TopCat89
TopCat89 - 11/25/2013, 7:11 AM
.....plus they wouldn't have had that big announcement for Peter Capaldi a few weeks back.....if it were true, they'd have had left it as a surprise cameo if that's all he was needed for....
smnelson610
smnelson610 - 11/25/2013, 7:12 AM
umm Matt Smith is the 12 incarnation with peter being the 13th. Moffat already stated that the incarnation numbers have not changed, so Matt is still the 11th doctor and peter will be the 12th. john hurts character was not in the name of the doctor, right before he left he asked if he would remember anything and he was told no other than he tried to destroy the time lords, anything else after that would be forgotten, only Matt and future incarnations would remember the event that took place previous incarnations would forgot because of the time stream. as far as the regeneration limit goes that is time lord law stating you can't regenerate more than twelve times. Time lords still don't exist for the moment as they are stuck in time lock so he could technically regenerate as many times as he wants. just because he dies at trenzilor doesn't mean that's the end of doctor who, that is the 11th doctors death. how else would he regenerate and then show up to help with the previous doctors to put the time lords in time lock. i know i know its timey wimey.
smnelson610
smnelson610 - 11/25/2013, 7:33 AM
finally someone understands.
smnelson610
smnelson610 - 11/25/2013, 7:39 AM
i loved that scene with tom baker, he can still put on a performance.
JatevinM
JatevinM - 11/25/2013, 8:23 AM
Matt isn't the 13th Doctor he is now the 12th meaning that Capaldi is the 13th
Bearjew
Bearjew - 11/25/2013, 8:39 AM
No John Hurt was the ninth, Eccleston the tenth, Tennant the eleventh, Smith the Twelfth and Capaldi the thirteenth
Cap1
Cap1 - 11/25/2013, 8:41 AM
Ummm mate Capaldi is the 13th. John Hurt was the 9th, Eccleston the 10th, Tennant the 11th and Matt Smith the 12th. In Sarah Jane TV Series he revealed he had over 300 lives, so that article is a load of rubbish written by a rubbish paper.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/25/2013, 12:10 PM
niklander@ I was thinking that, myself. Also, nobody can dispute that yours was indeed the thirteenth comment.
It actually seemed that, since they had changed the course of history of the Doctor himself, that they were effectively creating a reboot of the franchise. Day of the Doctor seemed like a Crisis for Doctor Who. The main time-lord guy even looked like a Monitor.
On that note there were many other easter eggs in there that referenced DC Comics, mostly ones written by Alan Moore, such as Watchmen, V for Vendetta and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There were also Marvel refernces, such as the M'Kraan Crystal and UNIT being the Doctor Who version of SHIELD.
The main question is who John Hurt was regenering into. Surely they would show us the full regeneration if it weren't meant to be mysterious. Was it Capaldi? It actually looked a little like Peter Cushing to me, but that could have just been wishful thinking on my part. I've been waiting a long time for the theatrical Doctor to be canonised.
Speaing of which, I saw this in cinemas, which is entirely awesome. What a way to celebrate the 50th. It's probably nothing, but there was a little moment at the beginning of the theatrical version where Matt Smith mentions the 57th Doctor from 50 years into the future. Could that be a way of telling us that the regeneration limitation may be lifted?
On a slightly related note, I also saw The Dark Knight Returns at the cinema. It was shown a couple of times as part of a film festival. This gives it theatrical officialdom and technically makes Batman Vs Superman the 13th Batfilm, but people will still mistakenly refer to it as the 12th.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/25/2013, 12:21 PM
Also, seeing an aged Tom Baker might indeed mean, that in the rebooted cycle, Tom Baker's Doctor might have lived to an old age. And may not have necessarily have been the 4th Doctor.
EXODUZ
EXODUZ - 11/25/2013, 2:37 PM
@DukeAcureds
"The main question is who John Hurt was regenering into."

Actually if you watch you can see his face shape changing into Eccleston. They just didn't show it complete because Eccleston wasn't available for filming and they only had stock footage to work with, showing it complete would have made it look like really poor graphics.
SimyJo
SimyJo - 11/25/2013, 3:22 PM
The best Dr Who stuff on this week was the 'Adventures in Time and Space' with Hogwarts caretaker guy as the first Dr Who. It was brilliant.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/25/2013, 3:27 PM
Thanks guys, you're right. Although, the more I watch it the more it looks like Christopher Reeve. But, no, you're right it's Eccleston.
Tom Baker being a future Doctor does seem to suggest that there will simply be no limit to the regenerations, but it could also back-up the reboot theory. Maybe it's both. A reboot and limitless regenerations.
Darth258
Darth258 - 11/25/2013, 3:37 PM
Well.. between the 12th and the 13th doctor there should be the Valeyard popping out somewhere too... Unless they erased the old canon with the new series..

Also being the War Doctor a forced regeneration it should be an extra one, leaving the numbers as they are, unless they mess it up in the christmas special, fingers crossed that it's not..
Darth258
Darth258 - 11/25/2013, 3:50 PM
Anyways, if Capaldi saves Gallifrey they could grant him a new set of regeneratios as reward, so.. problem solved.
MementoMori
MementoMori - 11/27/2013, 3:24 PM
@Darth258- Hmmm, good prediction. We shall see with the christmas special.

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