SHANG-CHI Star Simu Liu Fires Back At Quentin Tarantino's Recent Marvel Criticism

SHANG-CHI Star Simu Liu Fires Back At Quentin Tarantino's Recent Marvel Criticism

Quentin Tarantino doubled-down on his Marvel movie criticism in a recent interview, and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings star Simu Liu has now fired back in a series of Tweets...

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By MarkCassidy - Nov 23, 2022 08:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Shang-Chi

Quentin Tarantino has been sharing some pretty negative views on superhero movies (Marvel projects, in particular) during a recent round of interviews to promote his new book, and the iconic filmmaker's latest comments have not sat too well with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings star Simu Liu.

Tarantino said that while he doesn't hate Marvel movies, he has "an axe to grind" against what he perceives to be the "Marvel-ization of Hollywood." He then went on to state that Marvel actors were "not movie stars," suggesting that the character has become the real draw for audiences.

Liu responded by referring to the likes of Tarantino and Martin Scorsese - who has also taken a few well-documented shots in the past - as "gatekeepers."

"If the only gatekeepers to movie stardom came from Tarantino and [Martin] Scorsese, I would never have had the opportunity to lead a $400 million plus movie," the actor Tweeted. "I am in awe of their filmmaking genius. They are transcendent auteurs. But they don't get to point their nose at me or anyone."

"No movie studio is or ever will be perfect. But I'm proud to work with one that has made sustained efforts to improve diversity onscreen by creating heroes that empower and inspire people of all communities everywhere," Liu continued. "I loved the 'Golden Age' too... but it was white as hell."

While some agree with Liu's rebuttal, others feel he is blowing Tarantino's comments way out of proportion, and feel his insinuations about the "Golden Age" may be misplaced in this instance.

What do you guys make of Liu's response? Be sure to share your thoughts in the comments section down below.

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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 11/23/2022, 8:31 AM
I'm tired of Tarantino and Scorcese's crap too, but not once did they mention race or that diversity is bad.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 9:49 AM
@TheFinestSmack - he specifically talks about the "golden age" meaning the Golden Age of Hollywood from the 1920s-1960s. The period of filmkaing that Scorcese and Tarantino romanticize, not a part of.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 12:32 PM
@SATW42 - Quentin doesn't "romanticize" that era. He never has. The era he has always focused on was 70s on up. And he focuses on Blaxploitation and foreign action flicks from that era specifically. Namely Asian flicks. In other words, the films he romanticizes is Black and Asian films.
Not sure why you're making it your business to spam that throughout this comment section but it's inaccurate.

No one brought up that era. Simu pulled that out of his ass when no one talked about it. It's yet another ridiculous comment centered in race that was shoehorned in. It's pathetic. He didn't even listen to Quentin's words.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 1:18 PM
@DarthOmega - Doesn't romanticize that era, like, did you watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood which is basically mourning the end of the Golden Age of Hollywood and Sharon Tate, wife of known creep Roman Polanski? You know, the guy who in the Letita Wright story everyone said they are sick of Hollywood ignoring how gross he is and Letita shouldn't be compared to him. Guess it's ok when Tarantino ignores it and thought so highly of him that before the movie came out he let one of Roman's friends come to his house, read the script, and let Roman know he didn't have to worry about how he was portrayed.

once again people just talking out of both sides of their mouths.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 1:28 PM
@DarthOmega - But even still, I'm still laughing at the idea that Tarantino doesn't romanticize the Golden Age of Hollywood and never has.

Made a movie about a plot to kill Adolf Hitler in a movie house that was helped orchestrated by Bridget Von Hammersmark who was based on Ilona Massey, and the character Briget even wore a dress similar to what Massey wore in the 1941 movie "International Lady"

Reservoir Dogs is basically a love letter to Stanley Kubricks The Killing. 1956.

I can go on but I've just given you three examples, from his earlier work with Resevoir Dogs to Once upon a time in hollywood, he loves that era of filmmaking. I know because I actually know his work and I know cinema, as opposed to half baked "he likes asian" films that every want to be filmmaker in a film class in the early 2000s obsessed over because of Kill Bill
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 1:37 PM
@DarthOmega - But homeboy has Bruce Lee gif, and we all know that Bruce Lee basically combined Martial Arts and the Blaxploitation genre, so, I don't know why I'm surprised that that's all you see and latch onto.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 1:48 PM
@DarthOmega - Quentin doesn't romanticize that era. He never has.

Just one of the most ill informed statements I've ever read on this site.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 2:33 PM
@SATW42 - You're telling me that literally out of nowhere Quentin Tarantino. The guy everyone knows from his take on Blaxploitation, Italian Westerns and Asian films, who has always talked about that era for some reason would start talking about movies from the 20-60s? He's never romanticized that era. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of his career would ever think that. His subject matter, and casting alone should prove this. But NONE of that matters because Simu is the only one who brought up race after misunderstanding Quentin's comments.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 2:34 PM
@SATW42 - What? Bro, have you ever even seen a Quentin Tarantino film? Do you know anything about his life? Have you seen a single interview of his? Did you watch the interview this article is based on? You're talking out of your ass here.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/23/2022, 2:39 PM
@SATW42 - but are you still laughing?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/23/2022, 2:41 PM
@DarthOmega - he doesn't watch Tarantino dude. Its why he stopped responding. He knows his take is as broken as Simu's
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 2:41 PM
@SATW42 - It's usually funny when someone doubles down on dumbassery, but this time it's annoying. Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir dogs is literally an American remake of an Asian film from 1987 called City on Fire. How do I know this? Much like QT, I'm a fan of Asian cinema. Why am I a fan? Because of Quentin's recommendations.

https://www.indiewire.com/2015/06/heres-the-movie-that-gave-us-quentin-tarantinos-career-248039/
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 2:49 PM
@SATW42 - You are talking out of your ass as well as both sides of your mouth. Perhaps you didn't actually watch Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. Or maybe you did, but you watched it slack jawed and didn't get the plot. That film wasn't mourning the death of that era... You said the Golden age was from the 20s to the 60s First of all, if you knew anything about film, you'd know that's nonsense. The 60s is when people said Hollywood got too bloated.

Giant epics nearly bankrupted the studios. People saw it as a joke at that point. So much so that the 70s literally gave birth to the low budget, hard boiled films Quentin often sites, parodies, and romanticizes. Gone were the elaborate musicals, giant sets, and bloated budgets. It was replaced by antiheroes operating in the grimy underbelly of the city. This is literally Quentin's wheelhouse.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 2:52 PM
@McMurdo - He's a troll. I'm so annoyed with these goofballs. He claims to know about cinema but had no idea Reservoir dogs was a remake.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 3:24 PM
@DarthOmega - Like Stanley Kubrick in his 1956 heist movie, "The Killing," Tarantino uses flashbacks to show how these self-described professionals make a bloody mess of the attempt.

"I didn't go out of my way to do a rip-off of `The Killing,' but I did think of it as my `Killing,' my take on that kind of heist movie," said Tarantino."

https://web.archive.org/web/20090126084703/http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19921029&slug=1521437

From his own mouth. Yes he has mentioned other movies, but when the film first came out he said it was essentially his remake of that
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 3:44 PM
@DarthOmega - it amazes me that you don't realize Once Upon a time in Hollywood is a love letter to the Golden Era of film while also ending with a "what if Sharon Tate didn't die" which, knowing history is almost like saying Quentin thinks "maybe Roman wouldn't have did what he did if she was still around" which is pretty [frick]ing gross. Again, Roman was concerned with how he would be portrayed and Tarantino felt highly enough of the pedophile to let his friend come to his house and read the script first.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 3:51 PM
@SATW42 - Remember, dude originally defended Roman Polanski and said it was consensual and the girl wanted it. It wasn't until the #metoo movement came and his very good buddy Harvey Weinstein got in some hot water and pressure was put on Quentin, he apologized for his past comments and to Polanskis victim.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 3:55 PM
@McMurdo - so much for that
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 4:35 PM
@SATW42 - WTF does any of that have to do with Quentin's comments? That film was not a love letter as much as it was an alternate history of the Tate murders and the transition of a fading TV star into a guy who was "demoted" to Spaghetti Westerns. It was about Manson, Cliff Booth, Sharon Tate, etc. Also are you just gonna skip over the proof I shared about Reservoir dogs, or will you just ignore it like you, and Simu did Quentin's comments?
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 4:38 PM
@SATW42 - I think you better update that 1992 article because Quentin and Chow Yun Fat have talked about City On Fire which isn't loosely similar to Reservoir Dogs, it's basically a remake. Again QUENTIN HAS ADMITTED TO THIS
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 4:51 PM
@DarthOmega - presented with an actual quote and dude still says no lol
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 6:30 PM
@SATW42 - I presented you with an actual article of an actual movie. A movie in which Tarantino admitted he basically remade, and you still stuck your stubborn ass head in the sand. Do me a favor you annoying jackass. Look up Quentin Tarantino and the 1987 film City on Fire. If you respond with some more stupid shit I'm ignoring your goofy ass.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 6:39 PM
@DarthOmega - is the insinuation here that the Seattle Times isn’t real? You told me I should update the story, do you think I sat down and created a page, a whole ass article, and then somehow maybe the way back machine pull it up as being from when reservoir dogs first came out, all in a matter of what like a half an hour.

Either you’re purposefully pretending that he never said that AN inspiration for this movie was a Stanley Kubrick, or you think I’m quite the talented writer/web developer/ time traveller?

I assure you, if I had those skills, I wouldn’t waste them on you.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 8:23 PM
@SATW42 - No. Moron. I mean update your source. Meaning that article is from the year the film came out. Quentin talked about City On Fire well after the film was made. Somewhat recently. Here's an easy way to end this ridiculous back and forth. Straight up type in Quentin Tarantino and City on Fire. That's literally all you have to do. I shar d the damn article first. Reservoir Dogs is basically a remake. Not inspired by, not somewhat based. It's basically a straight up remake plot for plot. But you'd rather be a dick and keep this Bs going.
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/23/2022, 10:02 PM
@DarthOmega - so, he just changed his mind about his influence, or maybe, we’re both right! I think we are btw, but you seem to want to erase him saying he remade, not on purpose, the killing
LordMushu
LordMushu - 11/23/2022, 8:34 AM
Good response.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 11/23/2022, 9:38 AM
@LordMushu - It would be a good response if it had any relationship with truth. In this case it doesn't.

"White as hell"???

Jackie Brown starred A black woman and a black man. That black woman wasn't a draw in years but because Quentin was a fan he decided to cast her. That other guy? Samuel L. Jackson. The man was a relative unknown when he was cast in Pulp Fiction and straight up stole the movie.

Also, his comments were true. Who knew Simu before Shang Chi? Only those who watched his show (Which isn't very much) Quentin's comment was about Hollywood not relying on big stars to sell movies, instead relying on big comic book characters. That's demonstrably true.

Let's get back to "White as Hell"

You know who was one of the biggest Non comicbook action stars of the 2010's?

The Rock (Not white as hell)

In the 2000s Vin Diesel (Not white as hell)

In the 90s Will Smith (Not white as hell) In fact these people were proof that you didn't need Arnold or Sly. We are living in a world where every day you're reading someone bring up something being "White" as a negative and people think it's ok. It's NOT ok.

I'm black. I wouldn't want someone saying "Damn man, it's good to see MGK, Eminem, Jack Harlow, lil dicky, Post Malone in rap, I seen the Golden era of rap, it's was black as hell" The same with sports stars.

One day hopefully we will leave this race obsession alone
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