VIDEO: The Schmoes Know Review THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2

VIDEO: The Schmoes Know Review THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2

The first United States reviews have started to weigh in, and among them there are the reviews of the Schmoes Brothers. Hit the jump to check out their take on The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and learn what they think about people comparing it with the infamous Batman & Robin film!

Review Opinion
By JJJameson - Apr 27, 2014 03:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: The Schmoes Know
The Schmoes Know have released their take on The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and both liked the film. Kristian thought that overall the movie was fun, rating it a 3.25 Schmoes out of 5. Now Mark said that he thought it was very fun and that he was impressed, but didn't love it like the first The Amazing Spider-Man. He said though that the way that this film ends and the way it might continue the franchise is an exciting prospect to him, giving the film a 3.6 Schmoes out of 5. Watch the full review below:






Official Final Trailer:




Official Websites: The Amazing Spider-Man | Enemies Unite | The Daily Bugle
Running Time: 132 minutes
Starring: Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Sally Field, Paul Giamatti, Jamie Foxx, Felicity Jones, Colm Feore, Dane DeHaan, Chris Cooper and Martin Sheen.
Directed by: Marc Webb
Written by: James Vanderbilt (story),Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Jeff Pinkner (screenplay)

Official Synopsis:
"We've always known that Spider-Man's most important battle has been within himself: the struggle between the ordinary obligations of Peter Parker and the extraordinary responsibilities of Spider-Man. But in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Peter Parker finds that a greater conflict lies ahead.

It's great to be Spider-Man (Andrew Garfield). For Peter Parker, there's no feeling quite like swinging between skyscrapers, embracing being the hero, and spending time with Gwen (Emma Stone). But being Spider-Man comes at a price: only Spider-Man can protect his fellow New Yorkers from the formidable villains that threaten the city. With the emergence of Electro (Jamie Foxx), Peter must confront a foe far more powerful than he. And as his old friend, Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), returns, Peter comes to realize that all of his enemies have one thing in common: OsCorp."



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kylo0607
kylo0607 - 4/27/2014, 3:36 AM
I watched the movie twice at the cinema. Sure it isn't in the quality of Spider-Man 2, but it is still a pretty impressive superhero movie. It is nowhere near as bad as Batman and Robin and comparing it to that movie is truly ridiculous.
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/27/2014, 3:52 AM
Batman and Robin. What a disgraceful comparison.
loki668
loki668 - 4/27/2014, 3:58 AM
I was pretty skeptical of the "Batman and Robin" comparison to begin with. It just sounded like desperate reaching to me. Like someone wanted to troll the fans. Thank Odin for those who have minds strong enough to formulate their own opinions.
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/27/2014, 4:01 AM
Also I agree with the Schmoes. This ending is very daring and is an interesting prospect that hopefully carries over future films.
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/27/2014, 4:03 AM
I've seen it three times and that ending has got me every time. It even got my girlfriend and mum. The emotion that Garfield was able to evoke is testament to his acting skill.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:13 AM
Comparing this film to Batman and Robin was simply a purposefully controversial comparison to incite flame wars. It is nowhere near Batman and Robin's level of shit... I mean, it's still not that good, but Batman and Robin? Nah, not that bad at all.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 4/27/2014, 4:14 AM
loved this movie, suck it haters lol
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:18 AM
The thing I was happy about was that they kept it so *spoilers*Spider-Man's web kills Gwen. Very happy about that because that it causes a lot of guilt for the character and makes it so that her death was something he would have failed to prevent either way. Saying that however, I felt nothing. I felt no emotion whatsoever but that is definitely not the film's fault because I have a tendency to not feel in the slightest bit sad when a character dies.*spoilers*
AC1
AC1 - 4/27/2014, 4:19 AM
I think I agree with the Schmoes, maybe I liked it a little more than they did.
Comparing it to Batman & Robin is bullshit.

As for the "too many villains" argument? It's not really valid as a criticism - you can have any number of villains in a movie, the trick is balancing them in a coherent story, and I think TASM 2 did that. Look at it this way - The Dark Knight had three villains (The Joker, Two Face, and Sal Maroni) plus a whole bunch of side-villains (Scarecrow, The Chechen, the other mobsters and Joker's goons), but nobody complained that there were too many villains because the story flowed well. TASM 2 didn't do that as well as TDK did, but it still managed to do it pretty well in its own right. If you think about it, the villains in TASM 2 even reflect the roles of the ones in TDK - Goblin plays a similar role to the Joker (manipulating people and causing chaos), Electro reflects Two Face (good guy transformed by an accident, out for revenge against those who wronged him and driven mad), and Rhino is similar to Scarecrow (a glorified cameo that shows how busy the hero is while alluding to a story that belongs to another installment of the franchise), the only difference being that the secondary villain (Electro) gets more screen time in TASM 2 than his counterpart (Two Face) did in TDK.

People seem to jump onto this "too many villains" bandwagon simply because Spider-Man 3 sucked, but it wasn't the number of villains that made that movie bad - it was the fact that the story was terrible, and the villains' subplots didn't compliment each other. In fact, Spider-Man 3 barely has an actual storyline; it's just a bunch of unrelated subplots thrown together. At least in TASM 2 the storyline is mostly cohesive, and the subplots almost always work in tandem.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:24 AM
The amount of villains doesn't matter, it's how they are handled. In this case I wouldn't really say they were that well handled. In fact I wouldn't even there are three villains give Rhino's screentime and how he doesn't effect the plot whatsoever. More of a glorified Sinister Six setup cameo.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 4/27/2014, 4:30 AM
Lol. "Billy Joel." Never noticed the likeness before. Plan to see this Saturday.
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/27/2014, 4:35 AM
@batmaniac

Agreed. Both WS and TASM2 have been the most emotional cbms yet.
loki668
loki668 - 4/27/2014, 4:41 AM
2014 may be the year of the emotionally gripping cbms! CA:TWS and TASM 2 both seemed to have hit the fans in their tingly bits.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:41 AM
Electro and Harry's screentime/roles almost parallel that of Harry-"Goblin"/Venom in Spider-Man 3 though. Electro/Harry-"Goblin" is the first big threat to start off with, then ceases to be a relevant threat for a good third of the film (Ravencroft/Amnesia) then returns for a bit to get defeated relatively quickly again. With Harry/Venom, they, prior to their villainous transformations, appear throughout the film and then only step up as the villain in like the last 20/10 minutes of the film (Harry as Goblin, Eddie was Venom) and then get beaten relatively quickly.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:46 AM
And yes, BatManiac, that would be good. Like for example in the Superman/Batman film they do a Batman prologue where he takes down someone like Two-Face and then a quick shot to Superman doing his stuff in Metropolis by saving people from Parasite. No relevance to the film, but shows us these Universes are bigger than what is shown to us, the audience, on screen.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/27/2014, 4:47 AM
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:48 AM
Well, feeling sad over TASM2 ending depends on how much to like the characters and how sentimental you are as a person. I honestly felt more over TWS scene on the Helicarrier. Seems [frick]ing stupid to say that given what occurs but I felt nothing over TASM2 ending.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 4:57 AM
Then make either Batman or Superman's introduction a plot relevant one and one of them simply doing their ordinary business to take down a villain showcasing that this is a big Universe and stuff happens all the time.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/27/2014, 4:59 AM
Seriously though... those supporting the film don't understand good story telling. It had the same problem as the first film... Peter destroys his chances with Gwen so the entire film is a 'will they get back together' mess that doesn't work as neither knows what is happening and they only get back together in order for her death to mean something.

Meanwhile those sympathetic for Peter... please enlighten me because Peter is a selfish asshole through the entire film. He abandons Gwen, only comes up with the 'England' solution because of his own selfish desires, etc... Make no mistake he's done this before also - he left Gwen alone when her father died and in the space between this film and the last he's broken up with her several times using that as an excuse according to dialogue in the film.

As for the villain scenario - lets discount Rhino for a second. Your main villain Electro is an 'ok' villain, but Max Dillon is a badly written character on comparison with Riddler from Batman Forever. As for Green Goblin its the other way round... Harry is an amazing character while Green Goblin is a terrible villain showing up for less screen time than Venom for one short scene to kill Gwen because they needed to otherwise the fans would complain.

You cant honestly tell me that you all enjoyed sitting through Peter Parker essentially re-discovering what we all saw in the first 5 minutes during the middle act of the film that dragged on forever...

This film had good scenes... but it wasn't consistent and that to me is worse than a bad film. In a really bad film you can laugh at how bad it is... maybe their are still elements that are good but they don't distract from the fact its a bad film, it doesn't delude you with hope that things will get better.

In this film we have excellent scenes such as the building desperation with Harry and the beautiful looking slow-mo Spider-sense... but then you have scenes of comedy relief Max Dillon, comedy relief Dr Kafka, comedy relief Rhino/Aleksei, rushed Green Goblin, Electro with his constantly changing motivations that are not built upon... etc...

Brainiac13
Brainiac13 - 4/27/2014, 5:00 AM
This film wasn't bad as SPM3 or B&R.....those were just crap!!!

ASM2 is a good movie but not great. 3/5.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:04 AM
I don't like the pacing of these two films. I felt like the portion of the last film where he becomes Spider-Man felt very rushed... which is almost something ludicrous the say given that it spends like 40 minutes on the origin.

@Batmaniac

I don't find Peter likable in this version, I don't care about Gwen. I'd love to add a comment about the MoS Lois but that's for another thread. A simply never cared about their relationship. Probably because I can't relate. I'm not saying this is a fault in the film though, don't interpret it as that.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:06 AM
However, I'll give them credit for at least giving Gwen a [frick]ing personality and mind of her own. Goddamn I hated MJ from the original trilogy and bland Dunst made me hate the character even more.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:09 AM
@Mexican

Go watch it online if you want.
Invictor
Invictor - 4/27/2014, 5:12 AM
Batmaniac , Barrow did play a part in Cap:TWS. More than Scarecrow and Rhino ever did.
Invictor
Invictor - 4/27/2014, 5:13 AM
Batroc*
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/27/2014, 5:14 AM
@BatManiac

I liked the characters but that's mostly because the actors playing the roles managed to add more character to the rather wooden dialogue and bad script. Max Dillon was made more emotional because subtle mannerisms done by Jamie Foxx. Gwen Stacy is mostly cared about because she's played by the only good actress in the films - Emma Stone. Harry Osborn is amazing because of Dane DeHaan (First role I've seen him in)

I liked Peter and Gwen as love interests in the first film - but they started messing things up from the ending where they became distant then rushed them back together for the ending. This film sadly emphasised that. Emma and Andrew are dating and that's why most people are saying the love story aspect was amazing - but the love story aspect was a pile of shit - its only saved due to actual chemistry between the two.

The script let this film down most of all giving us the 'Incy Wincy Spider' scene, Airplane scene, etc... notice how Aunt May mentions she is a nurse in order to be in a later scene when the power is going out for no reason other than 'hospitals need electricity also'

The characters were a mess due to the script
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:18 AM
Though Dillion was horribly written, I did feel sympathetic towards him during the Ravencroft scene where he only begins the consider Harry's offer and pays attention when Harry says he "needs him" and he thinks Harry could be a friend.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:20 AM
It's only a shame these comic book movies feel like they need to making caricatures out of mentally ill people (Selvig in Thor 2) and desperately lonely people that are barely functioning adequately (Dillion).
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:23 AM
Somebody document this because this is a surreal moment in CBM history: I actually agree with BatManiac: Batroc as a character didn't affect the plot at all.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/27/2014, 5:23 AM
@BatManiac

That's because they are actually dating though...

@MetahumanAbominationKlone

"pays attention when Harry says he "needs him" and he thinks Harry could be a friend"

Once again - that was more the mannerisms and acting of Jamie Foxx than the script itself.

@BatManiac
"Batroc could of been replaced by any second rate villain and the plot wouldn't have changed at all, so no, no he didn't"

If we are being completely honest that can be said about every villain unless they do something specific that another villain couldn't do due to restrictions of his powers/abilities.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:24 AM
@Scar

True. Fox did a good job with the material he had.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:26 AM
They've had three, four if you count Rhino, chances at doing villains and they've failed every time in my opinion.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:28 AM
Even if Scar does have a hate campaign, does that suddenly and magically make his points invalid? He may have a hate campaign, but he has some sound points.
SebHope
SebHope - 4/27/2014, 5:30 AM
Most of the negative reviews I've read about this film, some have there points but most just seem to say redundant or similar ideas, so basically they didn't like the idea of the first film so their bad mouthing the idea of its sequel. I loved the first film because it has something a lot of CBMs are missing, actual realistic human and character development, sure maybe these films are more Peter Parker films then Spiderman but for me it makes Spiderman so much better when he's on screen knowing how developed Peter Parker is underneath, most the characters surrounding him are fleshed out far better than before also, I mean Raimi used Mary Jane as the damsel in distress 3 times as a major plot point and used the villains sob story then they redeem themselves in time to die three times, and these new films are being called out for being redundant and unoriginal???

I love the first two Raimi films but they felt like 60s spiderman this is ultimate it feels modern, it has it's own ideas. The major problem with the new ones is probably down to Villains they aren't as fleshed out. So I saw the film the first time left feeling like IM3 as @Kurne said, but after a little thought I saw it a second time and a lot of the elements that felt fast or cheesy, didn't seem as negative the second time. Harry Osbourne's arc works it's quick and they give a reason for it being so, Jamie Foxx as Electro works a little less but I would mainly account that to the fact that the reason his Final Battle feels underwhelming once you leave the cinema is, he's been out of the film for half an hour before the end, two other villains appear against Spiderman after him and a major plot point happens following the battle, so it's more the fact the end 30 mins which are great just over shadow him a bit but he's still good while he's around, and I felt empathy for him and Goblin especially transformation was creepy as shit like, An American Werewolf in Lindon style. Martin Csokas is by far the worst performance in this film FYI his Dr Kafka, sounds like Spiderman : The Animated Series (90s) version of Doc OcK but completely ruins a sequence with Electro that possibly could of been quite frightening.

Anyway on the big screen the second time I really enjoyed it, I think in some ways the first film was better but mainly because the tone of the film feels odd and takes time to get used to because it mixes more darker adult themes like the first film with more family friendly action like Raimi films that don't always mix but Andrew Garfield as Spiderman has completely eclipsed Toby Mcguires performance, he is the glue holding these films together, as is Emma Stone (Awkwardly). Just make your own opinions don't listen to reviews and maybe give this new franchise more than first glance chance, IM3 got weaker on repeat for me, this got better.
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/27/2014, 5:32 AM
Scarilian

Disliking it is one thing, but to insult the intelligence of those who did enjoy it is pretty douchey.

I don't know if it is intentional or not but you're certainly coming off that way.
Klone
Klone - 4/27/2014, 5:39 AM
Well given that everyone on this site had a tendency to never have their opinions swayed directly by users they themselves dislike even if they are being presented with significant, gaping and valid pros/cons, you're right there.
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