Why Spider-Man movies are special?

Why Spider-Man movies are special?

Why Spider-Man movies are so special? Iron Man, Batman, Superman and Thor movies are not anything like Spider-Man movies are.

Editorial Opinion
By FreedomFreeLife - May 24, 2013 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Main villains:
Spider-Man: Green Goblin(main villain)
Spider-Man 2: Doc Ock(main villain)
Spider-Man 3: Sandman(main villain), Venom, New Goblin
The Amazing Spider-Man: Lizard(main villain)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Electro(main villain), Rhino

Spider-Man main villains origins are based in scientific accidents:
Green Goblin(main villain) - Good guy, Serum makes him crazy.
Doc Ock(main villain) - Good guy, accident makes him crazy
Sandman(main villain) - Sad story, accident makes him Sandman
Lizard(main villain) - Good guy, serium makes him crazy
Electro(main villain) - Good guy, accident makes him Electro

Even Eddie got his powers by in the right place at the right time. Even Eddie played a good guy, just a little bit selfish.

Only villain who is not created by accident is New Goblin, but he is not main villain, and end of the movie, he is a good guy.

Spider-Man main villain has at least 3 action scene against Spider-Man.
Green Goblin(Party attack, burning house, bridge)
Doc Ock(bank, train, old house)
Sandman(bank car, subway,construction site)
Lizard(sewers, high school, oscorp tower)

Spider-Man main villains are sympathetic.
Norman Osborn is good guy, and by accident he turns to bad guy
Doc Ock is good guy, and by accident he turns to bad guy
Sandman is good guy, and by accident he turns to Sandman
Dr. Connors is good guy, and by accident he turns to Lizard
Max is good guy, and after accident he turns to Electro

Coincidences:
In the first (Raimi) Spider-man, Peter Parker turns into a Superhero. And the Supervillain he has to fight just happens to be his best friend's father.

In the second Spiderman, he has to fight The Octopus, who just so happens to be the scientist that Peter Parker has taken on as a mentor.

In the third movie, he has to fight the Sandman, who just so happens to be the guy who really killed Uncle Ben. He also has to deal with Venom, who is really Peter's rival at the newspaper (although this one isn't entirely coincidence as Brock was turned into Venom while following Spiderman). It is a pretty big coincidence that the alien material was found by the one person who already has superpowers.

Then the new movie, The Amazing Spiderman comes out and it has the exact same insanely improbably coincidences. Spiderman has to fight the Lizard, who just happens to be the scientist he tracked down because he worked with his father
And the girl he likes just happens to be the daughter of the chief of police who just happens to be leading the hunt to track down Spiderman.

Can you find those things in Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, or in Batman movies? NO!



In short:
1. Main villains origins are based in scientific accidents(All Spider-Man movies, other movie villains are coming from somewhere else)

2. Main villain has at least 3 action scene against superhero(Thor, Iron man movies, captain america, hulk has always 1 or max 2 fight)

3. Spider-Man main villains are sympathetic. Loki? He was greedy from start.

4. Coincidences, every villain is connected to superhero. Only possible in Spider-Man movies.

Spider-Man movies have something that no other superhero movies has.
Good or bad thing? I don´t know, but other superhero movies has only 1 villain fight scene, while in Spider-Man movies it´s always 3 at least.

This shows how different Spider-Man is.
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Tainted87
Tainted87 - 5/24/2013, 9:18 AM
*Coincidences
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While I applaud you writing an article of praise during this time where it seems like everyone is either bashing/trolling/spamming Star Trek, Iron Man 3, and upcoming movies like Days of Future Past and Avengers 2 - try to write a little more.

How are the villains sympathetic? What makes Doc Ock more interesting than the Green Goblin? How about the designs of the characters (not just the costumes)? What about the performances, such as when Willem Dafoe looks like he's going to bust a capillary...?

What I like best about the Spider-man movies - the first one specifically, is that it was shot out of a cannon and traveled far and wide. A LOT happens in that movie, and as a result, it does kind of feel long.

Also, they took a good leap of faith with the payload. Spider-man's costume was right on - not black leather, not some rendition of Ben Reilly with a sleeveless shirt... no, it was Spider-man. Green Goblin, not so much - but he still flew on a glider in a manner that looked just like the comics. He threw pumpkin bombs and bat shurikens, and he even held Peter's lady love over the Queensboro Bridge shortly before an epic curbstomp battle ended with him getting impaled by his own glider.

This is all during a time where movies really didn't give a rat's ass about accuracy or faithfulness. It was all style with Blade, somewhat less with X-Men. But Spider-man went full in.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/24/2013, 10:02 AM
I am talking about that Spider-Man movies are very different from other superhero movies.
Other superhero villains are bad from beggining, and always has only 1 fight scene. Also, other superhero villains are almost never connected to Superhero, while Spider-Man villains are.

Im not saying its good thing, but it shows why Spider-Man is so different from other superhero movies.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/24/2013, 10:07 AM
Even Max in TASM2 is friend with Spider-Man before he turns to villain, which is another connection.
It´s fun facts!
Odin
Odin - 5/24/2013, 10:23 AM
"Super villains need to have good backstories. Their motivations need to be explained, they need to be understandable in their evilness. Usually villain becomes more interesting if you make him/her close to the hero."
-Stan Lee
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/24/2013, 10:45 AM
What i really like about both Spider-Man movies are that villains are good people at start, but then we see what happens to them before they turn to villain.

Iron man 2,3, batman begins, dark knight, dark knight rises, captain america, superman movies we see villains that are already evil. We don´t see who they were before, why they turned to evil. That´s very interesting in Spider-Man movies, other superhero movies dosen´t have that.
Maybe Dark Knight, Two-Face, but he just came and died.
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 5/24/2013, 11:16 AM
@FreedomFreeLife
What about Mr.Freeze? He was doing everything for his wife.
Extremis
Extremis - 5/24/2013, 11:45 AM
The whole thing is surrounded by serums.this is what i like about the whole thing that it is scientifically explainable.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/24/2013, 12:07 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon
But did we see him as normal guy? He was just Freeze at start. I know he was doing for his wife, but still we saw nothing else.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/24/2013, 4:46 PM
Spider-Man has the best rogues gallery ever. Period.

What you said in the article is also part of why I dislike the Joker, he IS NOT THE GREATEST VILLAIN of all time like people say. I don't like Joker because he has no motives or backstory whatsoever. He just goes around randomly attacking people without any purpose, it's kinda dumb. The Spidey villains go far deeper than any other rogues gallery does...
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/24/2013, 7:18 PM
Because you spam, thats why!
Stop talking about something else than Spider-Man!
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/24/2013, 11:42 PM
Fenix, that's what makes Joker so interesting. He is this guy we know nothing about. Only that something happened to drive him extremely over the edge. His plans are often simple: Kill and take. No real agendas or planning, just destroy everything. No world domination or anything. That's why he is so different from the other villains.

Plus he is the exact opposite of Batman. The exact opposite of law and order. He toys with your mind to show you how pathetic order is.

@Freedom, although I agree with the stuff you wrote here, try to give a more in depth analysis of why you think so. How is one villain more sympathetic than the other? Otherwise good article.

Also thank you for finally admitting that ASM is as implausible as the Old trilogy instead of continuing that whole " the old Spider Man was very implausible and the new one is better because it is much more plausible" argument, because like I told you, Just because the movies more plausible, doesn't mean it is better than the other one. Indiana Jones is living proof of this.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/25/2013, 4:27 AM
@hotshot101
I like all Spider-Man movies(old 3, and TASM)
I never hated any, it´s just i like TASM more because it feels more modern and darker, thats why :)
I like old Spider-Man movies too, but there are some things i just hate.


Well, i hope they continue with that(main villain has 3 fight scene, good guy turns to bad guy by accident and villain connected to Parker/Spider-Man)
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/25/2013, 6:13 AM
" I like all Spider-Man movies(old 3, and TASM)
I never hated any, it´s just i like TASM more because it feels more modern and darker, thats why :)
I like old Spider-Man movies too, but there are some things i just hate."

If you just said that in the first place then not a lot of people to be arguing with you. :) Similarly, I think ASM is pretty good but somethings I just don't care for.

Although I don't think the green goblin was really that sympathetic due to his lack of true love for son. Although his last words were redeeming.Doc Ock? Yup. Lizard? Sure. Sandman however was not sympathetic. The guy couldn't decide whether he was evil or not. Like he teams up with Venom to kill Spidey and then just decides against it.

"You don't understand.... I have a daughter..... and she's sick..... so that makes it okay for me to break the law. I'm not a bad person."

I'm kinda hoping that with the Rhino or someone, the movie will move on from the sympathetic part. Just a villain we absolutely hate because he's evil. For example: Hob Goblin.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/25/2013, 8:22 AM
I mean sympathetic that accident made them bad, but if it never happened, they wouldnt be bad.

Norman Osborn was good, but he turned bad
Doc Ock was good, but he turned bad
Sandman was good, but he turned bad
Lizard was good, but he turned bad

I mean sandman is sorry what he did, it just all went wrong way. He needed money to save his daughter.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/25/2013, 11:37 AM
HeadCreeps, you still missing the point. You still don´t get about this article?
This article shows what spiderman movie always has, and no other superhero movies has.
Other superhero movies we see bad guy from start, and usually there is only 1 action scene at end, while in all spiderman movies we see from start good guy, turns to bad by accident and has always 3 fight scene.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/25/2013, 2:30 PM
I wasn't spamming. The topic was villains in superhero stories, and how the Spider-Man villains are the best. That's what I was saying, Spidey villains go deeper than a lot of popular ones Joker for instance.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/26/2013, 12:23 AM
sympathetic means he was good guy who turned to bad guy by accident, but again when he was cured, he was back good guy again.
So, Lizard is symapthetic.
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