HOT CBM TOPICS TODAY!!!

HOT CBM TOPICS TODAY!!!

Editorial Opinion
By earzmundo - Jul 15, 2010 10:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

HOT CBM TOPICS TODAY –

Just giving an insight as an avid movie-goer, a crazy comicbook fan…and a lover of CBMs from all studios…whether tis a small film or a huge event…

With Comic-Con looming, and MARVEL, DC etc announcing big news, not only on the status quo of their comics, but on their movies as well…many cbm topics are hot as hell indeed…and burn with fires and rages of us fans. Some may be fedup of the news, but this news is what makes us CBM fans galore ever-interested…and it is more or less our bread and butter!
I’ve just decided to jump on a few issues before the sh*t hits the fan at the con…


1. SUPERMAN reboot – Well I must say that Chris Nolan did wonders on his bat-franchise, and brought this back to us literally from the depths of Mephsito’s toilet…and he did a wondrous job…and I applaud him for having the balls to keep Batman away from any superhero lore and maintain a realistic setting of a vigilant world versus gangsters, rather than a superhero fighting villains! And to keep science, but not science fiction and superheroes, in this universe…was a masterful stroke…and to those who clamour for Nolan’s Batman for a JLA…well basically this Batman barely fights off gangsters and dogs…can he really go head-to-head with Darkseid and supervillains? Not unless he dons a Tony Stark suit…I digress…


With John Nolan seemingly getting the director spot, and Chris overseeing, I surmise we will get an amazing script from them and overall, I’d bet the movie would be well done. How true would it stay to Superman lore I cannot fathom as the Nolans do tend to give their own genius spin on things. As for the lead role, they rumour to be eyeing a TV star…well, Nolan opts for class-acts and sad to say, as much as Tom Welling and Jared Padalecki rock on CW, they aren’t the calibre that the Nolans are eyeing I think. With the influx of Brits used in CBMs today…Aaron Johnson, the guys cast for XMEN FIRST CLASS etc, I think Nolan will opt for someone British…

and John must have seen the amazing work HENRY CAVILL did on Tudors, and in his forays on-screen, he has impressed. Not only does he have the look and physique, but he has the acting skills imo…and I yearn to see how diverse he is in doing a Clark and Superman dual role…but his past links with Superman try-outs, James Bond try-outs etc, and the fact that he barely missed out on such big roles, hint that the guy just needs to be given a chance, a break so to say…and if anyone can get the extra edge out of an actor, it’s the Nolans. They have worked with amazing actors in the past, and as seen with Cilian Murphy, Bale and Pearce…they make a good actor seem better. Sorry to say that Welling, Padalecki don’t match to Cavill. As for Jon Hamm, the age factor may hinder him…and honestly, he like Alex Skaarsgard, are simply not Superman. They are good actors, and can portray other heroes someday, but they do not fit the Clark Kent and Superman persona. Some may say that Cavill doesn’t either…but he remains age-wise, looks-wise, and skill-wise, the best bet to me. Cavill is currently filming a Theseus role so we know he’s in shape! The other guy I think could rival Cavill, despite a height shortage, is Matt Bomer.

His diverse roles, charisma, charm, skill, age, look…and past link as well to a Superman role…show that he has potential. Zach Levi please? Umm no…but Bomer is everything that Clark and Superman could constitute. His size proves small…but the guy screams ‘PUT ME IN THE FILM AND I CAN DO BOTH ROLES!’…and his delving into cinemas, has turned decent roles…and imagine the Nolans and their script guiding Bomer, I think we’d have a winner…so to me…it’s CAVILL, then BOMER who will take the role. As for plot…well I’d like to continue off Singer’s film and retcon the stuff he did with the son etc, but as a reboot goes, Nolans would do well. We need a harder hitting film, as I liked Singer’s movie, but less drama and emotion could do the film well. As for Lex and his real estate jib, I think we had enough of that and we need to get a more brutal villain…mentally and physically…enter Brainiac…and Viggo Mortensen. With Anne Hathaway as Lois, maybe John Malkovich or Jon Hamm as Lex, a secondary villain, we may set up amazing future films for the likes of Parasite, Metallo and dare I say Darkseid. Of course Doomsday would be total epic as well. The one thing that may irk me is…are the Nolan the right guys for this franchise? Batman was kept alone…separated…cuz I agree with Chris’ ‘walk before we run’ theory…but honestly, why keep Superman in a world alone…like his TDK? Superman is in a universe of aliens and superheroes…and it’s logical to link him with the JLA and other heroes. More $$$ is to be made if JLA arises, plus each hero can spawn solo and sequel films…and honestly, Superman films can be made separate with their own stories…but JLA films can have their own tales…but what would be most epic, is if the Darkseid-Superman tale crosses over into the first JLA film…INVASION…and we get the JLA fighting off Darkseid and his minions…I would jizz till I died…I think if they want to keep Superman separate, then I may not support them helming the reboot, as I want the new Superman to be a JLA associate. Me thinks it is time to follow MARVEL’S LEAD and take the cbms a step up…

2. BATMAN REBOOT – I segue into my Batman reboot issue…as I love Nolan’s films…all of them…and TDK is my fave film of all time…but when he finishes his franchise, what happens? To me, Nolan’s world will end with him…as I cant see WB giving someone else the character and plot. Besides, Bale and Nolan would exit, and would a new director risk following up? I think not…and to me if a new Batman is cast, and a new director comes in, it more or less should be a reboot…simply because we ought to tend to a more COMIC BASED BATMAN…aka…do what the Schumacher syndrome wanted…simply better! I think a Batman done by Zack Snyder or Matt Vaughn, without the realistic jib, and dealing with the comicbook plots, and the comicbook rogues etc…would win! Once the director gets a brilliant plot, with script deviations that enhance the film a la KICKASS, and a decent cast…we would get our winner. And I personally as a cb fan, would love a more comic-like Batman running around kicking ass with Freeze, Bane, Ivy, Riddler etc…

cuz NolanU doesn’t have room for the true versions of these villains. So when Nolan does his job, reboot…and more importantly leave room for a JLA tie-in, and a Superman linkage. With GREEN LANTERN on the block, and Flash rumoured to be coming in…the DC WORLD is waiting to go bonkers post-Nolan…and with Didio, Johns and Lee coming in the big chairs at DCU…I think the JLA prospect is better than ever…so even if the Nolans want to keep Superman separate, I think DC and WB are gonna opt against that plan, and I hope they don’t go to war…it’s time the Nolans let us be and let Superman dive into the JLA…and DC needs to know…once Nolan is done, a new BATMAN need find his way around…all so that the GREEN LANTERN, WONDER WOMAN, FLASH proposals…initiate a JLA setup…we all know it is inevitable…A new Batman would also lend to us seeing Robin, Nightwing etc…and basically translate the stories we love on comics…to the big screen…so please Matthew Fox…throw your name into a Bat-reboot! Same said for Crispin Joker Glover!!...For the likes of Superman and Batman reboots, there are good actors out there waiting to be found…and Vaughn, Abrams, Fincher, Proyas, Del Toro, Cuaron are all brilliant directors who even if they did one cbm before, can come into re-do a dream franchise such as these…

3. WB needs to know that Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, JSA are all films that lend huge love to the DCU and deserve to be made…so they must take their time and gather a good script, director and cast…and push forward…before I die!!! They are taking too long to get wheels turning but I think soon they will give us fanboys good news!!! I think GL is gonna throw down the domino train and we will see DC following Marvel’s train of thought…Financially, it is a good way to go…more films, no matter what, will get us in the cinemas..$$$$$$ galore…


4. Costume bitching
Well I love this cuz it shows our passion and enthusiasm…the GL came out today, and I see a Kyle Rayner/Ion influence, and I love this look…and with Guggenheim on it…I think I will be further pleased when I see it in action in film…cant wait for a damn trailer! And Sinestro by Strong is simply…genius!!! Peter Skaarsgard is also a fave of mine so I’m fully excited for this film.
As for Thor and family, I personally wanted a bit more medieval look to it, as my fave run is the JMS, Coipel, Djurdjevic run and there are the proper blends of futuristic and old-school Norse Viking looks in these characters…but the ones I saw thus far look too modern for my blood, but that wont deter me once the film starts…neither will the lack of helmets…Ive waited too long for this…I love Thor and while the Asgardians may look a bit too new and futuristic for my blood, I’m concerned only with the script, the acting on screen, the balance shown between Midgard and Asgard, how Loki is done…and moreso…how the Avengers tie-in comes in and how does a ‘god’ fit into their world!!! And FYI I think Tom looks eerie as Loki so I love that aspect! Hems better deliver a top notch performance also…seeing as my hopes of a full Asgardian tale with just a Midgard ending got thrown out the window just as fast as my hopes to see Balder on-screen kicking ass!!! I have faith in Ken…and cant wait to see his villains!!! The end tie to Avengers when Thor is banished will leave me breathless I’m sure and I think that Ken will properly translate the GOD ASPECT into the MU FILMWORLD…and also balance out the ‘alien’ factor…and I think the Ultimates plot for Thor’s character will have a welldone influence here…I sense the Ultimates Universe will pan out but in a good way…Thank you Mark Millar btw!!! :P

5. Finally, Ed Norton is out…sad to see him go as I loved all roles I’ve seen him in…I love his roles…especially Rounders and 25th Hour, and he was great as Banner…as TIH gave me what I needed, a brawl with a straightforward decent plot, awesome fight with Abomination…and an Avengers tie-in…I could ask for nothing more…and now Ed is cut…but totally replaceable…I thought that as brilliant as Ledger was, no actor defines the character, and the likes of Depp, JGL, Mike Pitt could have redone that role, but even if they fell short of Ledger’s godlike performance, I’d still accept it once they gave a good raw shot at it…and with Norton out, why boycott cuz one actor goes? Even if RDJ went, I’d still see IM and AVENGERS cuz the character matters to me more than the actor…and no matter what…anyone is replaceable…so with Norton out, the likes of Ruffalo, John Corbett, Edward Burns are all great actors who can go at the role…but the guy who reeks of Banner, more than Ed himself, as seen from years and years of comics…is ADRIEN BRODY!!! He would own it, as seen with Splice…so MARVEL needs to bring him in…


WELL PEEPS…HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE FUN…KEEP THE OPINIONS COMING CUZ THAT MAKES US WHAT WE ARE…LOVERS OF CBMS AND ALL RELATED STUFF…SO USERS…KEEP ROCKING!!! THAT WAS MY 2 CENTS SO LEMME HEAR YOU HOLLER…
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anonymous
anonymous - 7/15/2010, 11:11 AM
I think Nolan's going to do a good job with Superman and Batman. Why doesn't he get RICHARD DONNER to direct the reboot? Granted Richard did the original Superman, but he made the best Superman movie so far, and with Nolan producing and creating the vision for Superman and having Goyer's writing, there's the best team brought together to make the best Superman of all time.

As for Batman, it could end with this movie but perhaps it could go on. If he does Riddler in the third movie, the fourth could be Talia al Ghul getting revenge for Ra's in the first movie, the fifth could be Black Mask using Deadshot to kill Batman and the sixth could be Penguin or Catwoman or something and then later a third trilogy could be made in the Batman Beyond era, basically the franchise could still go on and not become campy.

Still Richard Donner for director of the Superman reboot!
tazmaniak
tazmaniak - 7/15/2010, 1:38 PM
It's a nice article, though I doubt WB would allow Nolan to cast a British actor as Superman.Also, I don't care what kind of camera trickery you use, there is no way an actor under 6' is pulling off Superman.
contrast
contrast - 7/15/2010, 2:31 PM
@Tazmaniak-- why on earth would WB have a problem casting a British actor as Superman? He's not American...(well, he was naturalized...) he's an Alien
tazmaniak
tazmaniak - 7/15/2010, 3:15 PM
No, he's not American, but he is an American icon.
contrast
contrast - 7/15/2010, 3:32 PM
But the whole concept behind Superman is that he's an immigrant. He symbolized the tired, poor, huddled masses that were coming into America back in the time he was first published. Though the actor I prefer to play him is American, if we're going to play the whole "what he's iconic of, symbolically" game, it makes more sense for him to be played by someone who isn't an American, because the whole idea of Superman is that he's an immigrant from another world; He sees America through slightly different eyes. It's more poignant and iconic for someone to take up certain values because they actually believe in them, not because they feel bound and obligated by some slurred sense of nationalism.

And above all, it's a movie. I, for one, had no idea Chris Hemsworth wasn't American when I saw him in "Star Trek"...because he's an actor. It's his job to be people who aren't real. If there were someone who were absolutely perfect in every single way for the part of Superman, and they weren't American, would you prefer a sub-par actor from America, or an exceptional actor from elsewhere?
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 7/15/2010, 7:31 PM
Matt Bomer is too small,scrawny,and feminine.
contrast
contrast - 7/16/2010, 12:21 PM
@Superguy1591-- As I said earlier, the actor I'd prefer for Superman is an American (Mr. Hamm, to be exact, because he, out of all of the actors, looks like a man, and, on top of that, is an incredible actor.) But what I was saying, is that limiting the actors you look for because of a character's nationality is idiotic.

That's like being angry that Red Skull is being played by Hugo Weaving because The "real" Red Skull was a Nazi, and was born in a small village in Germany.

I do agree with you about the whole "Real men should play Superman" thing, though (see my above statement about Jon Hamm.) but what you've said before that doesn't seem to fit, because, to me...Neither Welling nor Padalecki look like "Men". To me, they look like they're about age 15.
Akercocke
Akercocke - 7/16/2010, 8:42 PM
Brody for Banner, Manganiello for Superman and Cavill for Batman if someone dares to do that reboot.
SuperManFan01
SuperManFan01 - 7/17/2010, 4:17 AM
Routh for Superman
Witwer for Batman
Moyer for Banner
jedibasswatson
jedibasswatson - 7/17/2010, 12:12 PM
Bale is British / welsh and is not batman suposed to be an American hero . I understand the physical thing but nationality should not be a problem that's why they are called actors andget paid shit loads to put on an accent
contrast
contrast - 7/19/2010, 12:34 AM
First of all, the Germans weren't our enemies in WWII, it was the Nazis (most of which happened to be German, but still.) Also, it is slightly different, because nowhere in Superman's name does the word "America" appear. Second, there's nothing wrong with casting an American (as I've said, many times, the actor I want is Jon Hamm, an American...)

What I'm saying is, it's not good to limit the search because of an actor's nationality.

Re-read my second comment on this page, the one about immigrants. What I'm saying is, people who aren't American can still believe in the American Dream... that's the WHOLE POINT of the American Dream, that it's not limited to those who are from America. And, if one Captain America article in particular is any indication, you can still be "American" and not want to uphold the "American way."

Finally, you saying that a Brit can't play Superman because the "American way" he fights for was founded due to English oppression is basically the same as a ten year old African American child saying he hates a ten year old Caucasian child because white people used to own black people as slaves, even though the African American child was never enslaved, and the Caucasian child never owned slaves... Not a single living British Actor had anything to do with the English Oppression that caused the creation of America. But, what you also don't seem to be gathering is that by "don't limit your search based on nationality", I don't mean, "only look for British actors to play Superman"... what I do mean, however, is "Look at all good actors, whether they're American, British, Irish, Canadian, French, Russian, German, or any other nationality, and choose the one that's the most talented, and most capable of bringing the character, as written in the script, to life."

And that "American Way" you keep talking about, well... the American Way is to allow everyone to have the same shot at something, regardless of where they come from in life, so by arguing that only American actors should be auditioned for the role, you're undermining the very ideals Superman stands for; that everyone, no matter where they're from, deserves an equal shot at their dreams.
contrast
contrast - 7/19/2010, 1:44 PM
First, Kevin Costner, an American, did play Robin Hood once. Granted, it wasn't that great a movie, but still... (in fact, Robin Hood was portrayed exclusively by American actors until at least 1952) Also, just because Germany is no longer a Nazi state doesn't mean that Nazis don't still exist.

Moving on-- The difference between Ryan Gosling being cast as Nat Turner and (Random Actor, possibly not from America) being cast as Superman is, well, you can find actors from other countries that look like Superman, while Ryan Gosling looks nothing like Nat Turner.

You seem to be stuck on England for some reason, though I thought I made it clear that I was refering to looking for the best actor from any country, but nevertheless... here's a list of all of the Bond actors, and their country of origin, just to give you an idea...

Sean Connery--Scotland

George Lazenby--Australia

Roger Moore--England

Timothy Dalton--Wales

Pierce Brosnan--Ireland (and, by the way, he holds an American citizenship...)

Daniel Craig--England

and aside from the James Bond films, Bond has appeared in a few "Made for TV" things too... most notably the first version of Casino Royale, starring

Barry Nelson--America

And the actor Patrick McGoohan was offered the part of James Bond once, but turned it down.

Patrick McGoohan--America

So, to recap, Give or take a few television appearances, James Bond has only been played by a total of TWO ENGLISH ACTORS. The first time he was played by an English actor wasn't even until the eighth Bond film...

Now, moving back to Superman--What would you think of Pierce Brosnan as Superman? (this is an honest question, not some snarky somethingorother) I mean, now that I think about it, Brosnan seems like a good choice (though I still prefer Jon Hamm). Pierce Brosnan looks roughly like I'd imagine a "real-life" Superman would, he's a good actor, he's from Ireland (which has its subtext in the Superman Mythos, considering that when Superman was created, he could be viewed as somewhat of an allegory for the Irish immigrants coming into America years prior to the character's publication.), and he's an American citizen. Thoughts on Brosnan?
naterator
naterator - 7/19/2010, 3:17 PM
im a big fan of NOLANS films and am pumped for the next BATMAN chapter. DONNER for MOS sounds great, giving the fact that nolan will be starting the 3rd installment for BATS very soon as well as his brother starting up MAN OF STEEL..also seeing that they are coming closer to choosing the guy for SUPES role...i wonder how far out it would be to accept that we could see a SUPERMAN cameo in the next BATMAN installment?...after all, they both at some point will be getting made at the same time like IRONMAN and HULK were.
naterator
naterator - 7/19/2010, 3:22 PM
Brosnan would be a good superman as well as hamm would be but i think its too early to use an older actor just yet. we still need a JLA movie.... if theycan ever get it together....if not then yeah just jump to a kingdom come scenario....then ou obviously have o get a new bruce wayne....batman is in a robotic suit at that time since its a story that takes place in the future.
contrast
contrast - 7/20/2010, 12:08 AM
The last remark, specifically, that I'll make about this debate (probably, but who knows), *speaks dramatically* as I've tired of it, and can see that you aren't going to change your mind, */end dramatic speech* is this-- It's a bit odd to say that "He should be portrayed by an American born citizen." even for someone who feels that Superman should be played by an American citizen. The reason is as follows: American born citizens are born into the American ideal, whether they like it or not. People who become American citizens do so because they believe in the American way.

I do remember the nonsense about Harry Potter, and the only defense I have for people's outrage (which I hardly understood...but that may have been because I wanted to audition for the part... heh.) is that children that would have been the correct age would have probably been God-awful with British accents, and it wouldn't have sounded right.

I don't agree with you on Welling (too "pretty-boy-ish", and young looking) or Padalecki (almost the same problem as Welling, though, a good actor and decent build for the part. I could see it.) Ackles is too short (and occasionally too "grunge" for Superman...but I could possibly see him working) Routh did look like Superman (and I like Routh as an actor), but he's got two strikes against him-- He, and any other Superman movie he stars in, no matter how wonderful, will always be connected to "Superman Returns", and all the negative feelings that go along with it. And, that though he looks like Superman (in the face), he seems to slouch a lot. Letting your shoulders slump down is just about the quickest way to look unheroic. I stand by Jon Hamm as my number one choice, as he seems, to me, to be absolutely perfect for the role.

I also think that after the critical failure that was "Superman Returns", they should just say what the hell and film Kevin Smith's "Superman Lives" script... What are your thoughts on that storyline? (If you haven't read it, you really should. I'll see if I can't dig up a copy if you haven't)
EarthsAdoptedSon
EarthsAdoptedSon - 7/23/2010, 6:46 PM
Adam Baldwin for Superman. Jon Hamm for Batman.
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