SUPERMAN Spoilers: James Gunn Talks Ultraman Reveal, Possible Bizarro Plans, And When We'll See JUSTICE LEAGUE

SUPERMAN Spoilers: James Gunn Talks Ultraman Reveal, Possible Bizarro Plans, And When We'll See JUSTICE LEAGUE

Superman director James Gunn has broken his silence on the movie's big Ultraman reveal, and weighs in on whether it's leading to Bizarro's DCU debut. He also talks Gorilla Grodd and Justice League plans.

By JoshWilding - Jul 18, 2025 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Entertainment Weekly

While those of you who went in search of plot leaks wouldn't have been too surprised, Superman delivers its most shocking twist (outside of Jor-El's true nature) when Ultraman is unmasked as the Man of Steel's twisted clone. 

The villain, who has little in the way of free will and is controlled by Lex Luthor, is ultimately sent hurtling into a black hole. That either brings a permanent end to his story, or sets the stage for Ultraman to return as the DCU's take on Bizarro. 

Entertainment Weekly put it to filmmaker James Gunn that Ultraman has elements of both Bizarro and Nuclear Man from Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, prompting the DC Studios co-CEO to share an easy-to-miss aspect of the formidable villain's true face.

"It's funny, [Marvel Studios President] Kevin Feige wrote me yesterday. He says he hopes his old pal Bizarro..." Gunn trailed off with a laugh. "He wants to see Bizarro. Yeah, I think he's all those things, but also just kind of this f---ed-up version of Clark. There used to be some sadder stuff in there at some point that I got from the script that I really liked. I didn't have time for everything."

"I don't know if you noticed, David's got prosthetics on [as Ultraman]," he continued. "He's got a chin that's jutting out, his ears poke out, he's got one eye kind of going in a little direction. [Luthor] took him out of the oven a little too quickly or something."

While Gunn wasn't willing to say too much about whether we'll see more of Ultraman, he did note, "I like to think about where he's going and what he's going to do next."

Gunn also confirmed that Luthor's smart monkeys aren't in any way related to Gorilla Grodd, but revealed that he's "got other plans" for the iconic Flash villain in a future DCU movie or TV show. 

Finally, talk turned to the Justice Gang and their under-construction base, the Hall of Justice. Confirming that Metamorpho is now part of the team, Gunn was pushed on whether all this was meant to lay the groundwork for the Justice League's DCU debut. 

"Yeah, I think you could say that," he acknowledged. "I don't know why not, but I wouldn't jump the gun with thinking that's going to happen tomorrow." 

We don't know where the Justice League fits into his 10-year plan for the DCU, but it seems likely that they'll assemble near the end of the "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" slate. Similar to Marvel Studios and the X-Men, benching the team for a while is necessary, given the damage that's previously been done to the brand. 

Superman is now playing in theaters.

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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/18/2025, 3:23 PM
Hope Gunn devotes a project to Justice League Dark eventually. I've always liked the idea of Wonder Woman and Zatanna having their own team to fight supernatural threats.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/18/2025, 3:57 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - only if Gunn doesn't have anything else to do with it, but to accept it, lol.
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 7/18/2025, 4:28 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - I really hope that Gunn brings Guillermo del Toro back to JLD (if he still has interest). After he gave Mike Flanagan and Constantine 2 a shot, i think JLD may finally happen.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/18/2025, 5:05 PM
@ImNotaBot - That would be a great choice.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:00 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - as long as Del Toro writes and directs JLD then it'd be a slam dunk.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/18/2025, 7:15 PM
@lazlodaytona - The man is gold
JabbaTheSus
JabbaTheSus - 7/18/2025, 3:24 PM
Yea I literally said to me wife, when walking out of the theatre, that I highly doubt that's the end of ultraman and he will come out of that black hole somehow, all [frick]ed up as bizaro.

For the rest of the slate, I think they learned the hard way with the 2010's movies, not to rush this. I believe we'll at least get 4-5 solo films before we see Justice Leauge.
RedFury
RedFury - 7/18/2025, 3:28 PM
@JabbaTheSus - him staying alive, and being sucked into a black hole that spits him out who knows where definitely leads one to think that he could become more like the true Ultraman, and reappear one day. That's where my mind went with it. Slightly different than your bizzaro take, but I could totally see that happen as well.
LenSpiderman
LenSpiderman - 7/18/2025, 6:43 PM
@JabbaTheSus - if he comes back, I’d happily see him sooner than later as bizarro, but I’d be ok with him returning WAY down the line as doomsday, if they play it as him having multiple encounters in and out of the pocket dimension after being defeated and sent back every time he escapes.

I think doomsday should be a full justice league movie down the line though. At least the second if not third team up and do the full death of Superman arc through multiple movies. In fact they could follow the JL death of Superman movie with a Superman “solo” movie that adapts the reign of Supermen.

Supes needs some solo adventures on screen with villains other than Lex and doomsday.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:02 PM
@LenSpiderman - if it's the 2nd or 3rd I'd be game. Actually...

JL1: Brainiac
JL2: Darkseid
JL3: Doomsday
RockReigns
RockReigns - 7/18/2025, 3:24 PM
Superman and Supergirl
Space opera with Brainiac as the villain.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 7/18/2025, 4:11 PM
@RockReigns - A Superman/Supergirl movie with Brainiac as the villain would be awesome!
Pimpanzee
Pimpanzee - 7/18/2025, 4:29 PM
@RockReigns - Good idea. Wouldn't be surprised if the robot patter about the nature of machine intelligence sets it up partially
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:03 PM
@RockReigns - go find the Hangover director and I'm sure it would happen
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/18/2025, 3:26 PM
They were definitely setting up Bizzaro. I can see him being used in a Supergirl sequel, as I doubt they'll dedicate another Superman movie to him, and he's not a big enough threat for Justice League.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 7/18/2025, 4:08 PM
@TheJok3r - could see Gunn having them rematch in his Bizarro form in a separate subplot where Supes counsels him til he becomes another comedic member on the team like their version of Drax
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:05 PM
@TheJok3r - Superman & Lois nailed Bizzaro. The bar is set high.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 7/18/2025, 3:36 PM
James gunns justice league? The mere thought of that fills me with dread
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/18/2025, 4:12 PM
@SteviesRightFoo - james gunn can't miss.
MatteMan
MatteMan - 7/18/2025, 5:21 PM
@Nonameforme - For me, James Gunn can direct Justice League but he needs help, maybe someone like Michael Bay (or Snyder 😅😅)
DannyBrandy20
DannyBrandy20 - 7/18/2025, 6:16 PM
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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:06 PM
@DannyBrandy20 - ".... Superman isn't getting laid tonight."
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 7/18/2025, 3:46 PM
Bring on the Legion of Doom! 😏
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/18/2025, 3:48 PM
Best Lex Luthor in live action of all time
Arthorious
Arthorious - 7/18/2025, 8:21 PM
@Pictilli - what about Michael Rosenbaum?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/18/2025, 4:03 PM
It would have been nice to have gotten some of that sadder stuff with Ultraman but the movie had enough characters & stuff going on as is so oh well…

Also seems like it might have been cut at the script stage if I’m interpreting Gunn’s comments correctly.

Anyway , Grodd in the future could be fun…

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For some reason , I get the feeling we could see him in Paradise Lost.
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/18/2025, 4:11 PM
They need to do something totally different with justice league. N I'm not sure what that is, but I trust gunn to do it
LiquidSwords
LiquidSwords - 7/18/2025, 5:10 PM
@Nonameforme - lol
MatteMan
MatteMan - 7/18/2025, 5:11 PM
@Nonameforme - I really enjoyed watching new Superman. I love Man of Steel(by changing two things it would be perfection) but in my opinion this movie is better.
I'm curious how this will go on but before Justice League i would watch 3-4 movies:
1. Batman
2.Flash team up with Cyborg
3.Martian Manhunter
4. World Finest/Public Enemy
LenSpiderman
LenSpiderman - 7/18/2025, 6:53 PM
@Nonameforme - not sure what rumor mill I heard this from but sgt rock may involve the spear of destiny. I can see that laying the foundation for the first JL movie. Someone in the modern day going after the spear or already having possession of it. Could be a good initial threat to bring them all together similar to Loki getting the scepter or whatever. Of course it will be “world threatening” but not the way brainiac, darkside, doomsday, or some of the GL villains could be later on.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 7/18/2025, 4:52 PM
Those friggin monkeys look a lot like Gleek.
LiquidSwords
LiquidSwords - 7/18/2025, 5:09 PM
No to all of it.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 7/18/2025, 5:15 PM
We'll see it only once it hits pirate bay, and even then...
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/18/2025, 5:35 PM
He's such a composite of so many characters that there's just so many really intriguing possibilities. He could end up being the first of a Bizarro dimension, he could end up on an alternate Earth where he eventually forms the Crime Syndicate. He could even become Doomsday, ultimately.
Phifty2
Phifty2 - 7/18/2025, 6:47 PM
I really would love to see Superboy-Prime in this universe at some point.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/18/2025, 7:07 PM
@Phifty2 - THAT would be AWESOME. Sinestro Corps War...BRING IT ON!
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 7/18/2025, 6:49 PM
Idk part of me still rocks with MOS. But I did enjoy this fresh take. Would be nice to see some type of previous battles Superman had since metahumans been around so long. But I would give it a 4/5
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/18/2025, 8:58 PM
Man....I would have preferred Bizzaro in this film honestly....not too keen on seeing what happens with Ultraman in Superman 2
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 7/18/2025, 11:22 PM
I honestly don’t want them to rush to just team ups already. Superman is so good and already had team up’s in it. I think another Superman sequel with lots of supergirl and other random league members is a better idea than worlds finest already.

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