Superman Will Fly

Superman Will Fly

In which direction will he fly? Who will be donning the red cape and stuffing socks into those pants? Well, let us look at the options and discuss the pros and cons of a couple of names floating around.

Editorial Opinion
By ThunderCougarFalconBird - Jan 19, 2010 11:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

If WB don’t have a Superman movie in production within the next couple of years they will loose the rights to the character. Is there anyone out there who actually thinks WB will let this happen?! Didn’t think so. WB do seem to be dragging their feet though. I used to think this was because they lacked the balls to make a decision on a reboot or continuation. Well, too much time has passed and there’s not been a single word from the studio. This smells like a reboot hatching to me. They are waiting for the last rays of light from “Returns” to drop over the horizon. Giving themselves time to make some very tough choices over one of the most important superheroes of all time.

With that in mind, I have been thinking. It’s a dangerous game often ending with a call to the emergency services, but needs must. Do we want the classic Superman? The suit? The hair? The secret identity? Can Superman be modernised or is he so timeless the mere mention of change warrants two or three death penalties?

For me, Superman can’t be completely altered but a few subtle changes can be made for the man of steel to fit into the modern world.

Firstly there’s Clark Kent. To be fair there have been a few variations of this side of Superman. Christopher Reeve did a fine job for his time. Tom Welling is playing a sort of Clark/Supes hybrid which is right for the age of his character. We even had Dean Cain portray the character in reverse! In an astounding move he decided Clark should be a stronger character than Superman! Madness! Clark does need a change though. He shouldn’t be an ace reporter. In the modern world he would want to keep his head well and truly down. He should have a bottom rung role at the Daily Planet, he should be a nerd that Lois has no time for. To make the character work he needs to be so insignificant people barely see him.

Next is the hair. It needs a change. To my knowledge all live action incarnations of Superman have had slicked back hair with that stupid curl. In recent print and cartoons, his hair has been altered slightly, from slicked back to a shorter, spikey do. I don’t mind if it’s kept fairly long, slicked back or loose, or shortened but the curl must go. It’s such a small detail but it makes the world of difference.

Personally I think the suit was updated quite well for Superman Returns. I thought the dark red tone was perfect and the leather cape looked great. The only question over it is the pants. I wouldn’t know what to do differently so overall I would say that suit works.

Ok, so if you’re still reading this dribble it’s probably for this part. Here are three casting choices. Two of them are the most mentioned people when this role comes up in conversation, the third is my choice, one so far out of left field I’m still unsure myself in many ways!


Brandon Routh




Routh has played this part under almost impossible circumstances and received split reviews. Personally I thought he was great. Any issues with the movie were due to the writers, director and the direction the studio wanted the film to head. Routh can’t be held accountable for any of that. He did a good job against the odds. He’s familiar with this role on a movie scale, which is a step up from any other candidate for the part. He has a good height and build, which is crucial. And can pull of both Superman and Clark Kent convincingly. However, the public is split when it comes to Routh wearing the “S” and with no real way knowing how many are for or against him it maybe too much of a gamble for the studio. If the next movie is to be a reboot (or however they like to label it these days) it doesn’t make sense to keep actors. If this is the case then as much as I’d like him to stay, Routh has to go.

Tom Welling



I’ll not lie, I hate Smallville but I will try my best to remain unbiased. As I hate it, I haven’t seen many episodes. With that in mind I write this based on what I have seen so don’t shoot me if it’s wrong. Welling has a huge fan base, most of whom want to see him in the full suit. Even Christopher Reeve himself said Tom was perfect for the role. But does Reeve’s opinion cut it these days? The world has moved on since his passing. Or was he just being a gentleman when praising Welling? I’m not sure how tall he is but I’m sure it’s at least borderline when thinking of the height requirement for Supes. He is at least athletic and capable of bulking up if needed. However you look at it Tom has played this part far longer than anyone I can think of (the number of Smallville episodes has passed Lois & Clark hasn’t it?). But, and it’s a big “but”, is this character the same we need in a movie? No. Welling plays Clark when he is finding what he is capable of and how he should put this to use. This Clark is still one person. In a movie about a grown Superman, this character needs to be split. He needs to make the choice to become Clark as we know him just as much as the choice to become Superman. Welling has no experience in this. If Welling was to do a Superman movie it would be ridiculous! The world knows him as Clark from Smallville, so how could he convincingly play the same character in a completely different way? It’ll be like Adam West playing Batman Bale style! The Clark in Smallville is completely different to the Clark in a Superman movie. The only way to have Welling convincingly play the man of steel is to have a Smallville Movie! That isn’t only as scarily bad as it sounds to the Superman franchise but it will completely destroy the whole DC movie universe before it gets started! Any hope of a Justice League movie will be gone, most if not all the decent DC villains will have to be pathetic kids! Doomsday a human? I don’t think so! Smallville fans need to wake up, Welling cannot be Superman!


Right, before we go any further. Sit down. Put your drink on the desk and swallow anything you might be eating. I don’t want you falling over or spitting anything over your screen. Your gut reaction to this will be “HELL NO! RON YOU TWAT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!” To be honest, when this thought first came to me I buried it like a 15yr old hiding his first porn mag. But the more I think about it the more I can see it working. Please give this time to sink in and carry on reading as I give you…


Jared Padalecki





I’m banished from this site now aren’t I? Seriously though, who do we need Superman to be? Many of us on here cast this guy as Cyclops due to the nature of the character. Is Superman so different? They both look to do the right thing all the time, they are both leaders. How do we want Superman to look? Tall and muscular, right? Well as far as I can tell Jared is exactly19ft tall (give or take 11/12ft). He towers over everyone, which is perfect! Most Superheroes need to be tall and Superman is the hero of heroes! You can have all Justice League members at an imposing 6ft 2 and they will still need to look up at Superman. You may think he is too much of a rake for the part. Well this is one of the best features the guy has for this role! Stick him in regular clothes and he looks thin, just like Clark should. But when this guy is in a tight t-shirt, vest or (dare I say) Superman suit it’s easy to see he is ripped to high heaven!



I don’t care what you say, Jared can act. I have quite literally just watched Supernatural from episode one right through to the end of season four, back-to-back, three or four a night at least. You can really see how both Jared and Jensen have grown as actors. As Sam Winchester, Jared plays a character who, in many ways becomes split. One side of him wants to do the right thing while keeping people out of the firing line and stand by his brother, while the other side wants to rebel against him and get the job done at all costs. Playing a hero on a tongue in cheek TV show must be one of the hardest roles to get any acclaim for. Playing a villain is easy compared to playing a hero. Just name all the “great actors” around today. Now think about the roles for which you just named them. Most, if not all are villains or anti-heroes with an evil streak.

Jared Pocahontas can pull this off. His height and build aren’t only perfect for Superman, not only perfect for Superman AND Clark but also perfect for a Justice League movie. Like I said, let it sink in and mull it over, that’s right, mull it, mullet.
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I felt bad that both Routh and Welling had pictures in Superman suits and I didn’t want Jared Piccalilli to feel left out so here’s a quick sketch I did.


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ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/19/2010, 11:46 AM
Wow Ron...that took some big brass boulders to post that selection! While I believe that Routhe is still the best option, I can see where you're coming from on Padalecki. He has greatly improved his acting abilities and definitely has the stature. But, I just can't see him in the role of Superman. Welling is great for Smallville, but he wouldn't work for the big screen.
TheDemonHunter
TheDemonHunter - 1/19/2010, 12:23 PM
I wouldn't want to see any of the above in a new Superman movie, and the maroon costume pieces from Routh's suit have to go. Of the three, Welling is easiest to picture in the role, but on Smallville he's not playing Superman. He's playing the guy who eventually grows into being Superman.

We need a full-grown Superman, fully realized in all his charisma, presence, and potential, for a new movie to be a success.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/19/2010, 12:32 PM
Very well done article sir. i like how you seem to have an open mind about modernizing super-man.

im not supes reader, i don't much care for the character as a whole, but i like keeping up with him from time to time.

I think it wouldn't be much of a stretch to modernize the suit. instead of some leatard (spl?) why can't it just be some tight fitting pants and a shirt with the 'S' on it. obviously it wouldn't be some jeans and a t-shirt, im just saying it's possible to make it more than one piece. like real, practical clothes. Nolan showed us- tights are a thing of the past- the only character who needs tights from now on is spider-man.

and i agree with what you said:"In the modern world he would want to keep his head well and truly down."
My one problem with supes; worst, disguise, ever. it would take me about a milisecond to go "HEY! you're superman! yeeeeeeah you are! don't lie!" the human mind is very capable of recognizing people's faces that they've seen countless times in papers and on tv, and let's not forget they'll have to fit in the internet.

they can't go for the whole 'secret idenity' thing. that's old and out dated as Iron Man showed us. it is possible to tell a super-man story without him having to his behind his glasses at the 'planet'. if you can't think of anything else to do besides what EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON WHO HAS EVER DONE SUPERMAN has done, then you shouldn't be a part if this movie. it's 2010, chistopher Reeve is dead (RIP) so let's move on.
Tobuttica
Tobuttica - 1/19/2010, 12:36 PM
I second what Ecks and DemonHunter said for the most part. Routh got the shaft in Superman Returns because the writers and Singer made him out to be a pansy-ass Superman. He looks the part, sounds the part, and I believe with a non-retarded director, he could be a great Superman. I love Smallville, but I don't see Welling as Superman. I could see him playing Conner Kent/Superboy in a movie, but not Superman. As far a Padelecki, ugh. I think he's very charismatic and funny at times in Supernatural, and he was much better than Ackles in his horror movie, but for Superman, no. I also don't agree with everyone and their uncle saying Worthington should play Superman either. I think it should be Routh, or a new unknown, but the movie has to have a dynamic director. Personally, I'd let Mark Millar do the movie. His vision was epic, almost All-Star Superman-ish, but better.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 1/19/2010, 12:43 PM
Dude, you have some cajones to post Padalecki as Supes. Props for that.

I also think he is a very good actor, he can improve, certainly, but he really has grown tremendously as an actor from Day 1 of Supernatural to the middle of Season 5. That said, I don't know if he's particularly the best idea for Superman, I can see him as Cyclops, but not sure on Superman. I'd give him a screen test for the role.

And, I really liked Routh too. Despite having to imitate Reeves, I thought he did pull through with a very good performance. But, it's pretty much a given that he won't come back. It sucks, but it's not in our hands.

I'd say another unknown like Routh was is what's needed for the franchise.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/19/2010, 12:57 PM
Ron, you must be drinking some of that Black Panther to post this, lol.

I like Jared Piccolo for the role. He is a decent actor. I cannot see him for Conan as is being rumored.
BLADE44
BLADE44 - 1/19/2010, 1:08 PM
GREAT POST!! Piccolo I like him him on Supernatural and if it came down to him or Welling I'd take Piccolo. Piccolo in my opinion has the overall look and acting range to pull this off. Welling is small screen SMALLVILLE Superman,but my first choice is still ROUTH if not Routh Im not sure maybe a no name.
verbicide
verbicide - 1/19/2010, 3:40 PM
I wonder if a supes cameo in GL would let them keep the rights
Shaman
Shaman - 1/20/2010, 9:42 AM
Ah... i see... so this is how it has to be... I must admit, i never thought i'd see the day. Imagine that, me... dissagreeing with the stach... i'm all choked up.

I for one PREFERED Cain's version of both Clark and Sups. Why? Quite frankly because he was raised as Clark, not a clown and not as an alien. A child immitates his parents or guardians when they are very young and then proceeds to build his own personality which will mix and mingle with their parents'. Clark was never meant to be a robot that was built on Krypton and sent to Earth. Cain made Clark out to be not only an actual human being but a very charismatic one at that. He made Superman be a "public" symbol of truth and justice, a boyscout if you will. Superman has always been a boyscout and it is only fitting that he be concidered as the very best. Yet, a boyscout as perfect as Superman does not exist. Every man has a flaw because he is human. Now i know most of you will say "but Superman isn't!" WRONG!!!!! He was raised from an extremely early childhood AS a human being and on earth he has grown up to be a MAN with emotions and a personality. It is not only natural but LOGICAL to think that Clark is not a "natural" boyscout but works hard at being one for the good of humanity. Which would mean that Superman is the fake side of himself and Clark being the real side, with the sense of humour, charisma, friendship for Jimmy, admiration for Perry and love for Lois. So it isn't madness in fact it's very intelligent to think that Dean Cain's portrayal of both characters was very logical and well thought. Why must Clark be an annoying bumbling idiot or bust??? If Clark has such a distinctive personality, he doesn't need to play dumb. Dean Cain makes both characters appear very different! And i know for a fact that it works quite well. I used to watch the odd episode when it was on but i wondered recently why i enjoyed it so much since it was such a long time ago. When i saw that the box sets were on a ridiculously low sale, i bought all four seasons and i am currently doing EXACTLY what you just did with Supernatural. I even asked if my girlfriend wanted to watch the series with me. When i said "Superman" she said no. But after much debate and sitting through the first episode, she immediately fell in love with the show!!! You and your family just might as well ;) It's the same deal with when we talked about enjoying Ironman Armored Adventures. Once you put aside the views of past concepts, you learn better how to appreciate and even sometimes prefer different takes. This also goes for Marvel's Ultimate Spider-Man. It doesn't mean that the old is bad, you don't have to choose either one or the other, it doesn't have to be all black or white if you don't make it out to be. IMHO, not only is Dean Cain the best ever Clark/Superman but he also has the very best Superman costume ever put on screen. The poppy red, dark blue and bright yellow is the best color for Sup's suit! 1000 times better that Routh's baby blue and maroon.

But i will agree on one thing, surprisingly, and that is Jared Padalecky! At first, your choice seems as awkward as a new pair of panties but after a while it becomes a part of you ;P Seriously though, picturing him in the suit, saving the day and kickin' ass (for a change in Sup's case) he really does fit the profile! He is very intense in Supernatural and could just be what the doctor ordered to "Unleash" Superman to his full potential. Great choice!!!
Shaman
Shaman - 1/20/2010, 12:44 PM
Tea- DAMN RIGHT!

SuperMAN



SuperBOY

norrinradd85
norrinradd85 - 1/21/2010, 9:58 AM
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Jon Hamm = Superman
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 1/21/2010, 10:50 AM
Shaman - you could talk Satan off hells throne! I do agree with what you say about Deans Clark. My dig was intended more toward the direction the show headed, or should I say, where I remember it heading. it's been a long time since seeing it. In so many ways it was the best portrayal of (as you rightly call him) a human trying to live life. But, while his character could still work in a movie, his success can't. Clark doesn't have to be a bumbling fool, infact he shouldn't. But I think we need to show him purposely allowing opportunities pass him by in order to stay low on the radar. It would be great to see this frustrate him as he still craves success as any human but understands what he must do to keep his secret.

We seem to be as one when it comes to Jared! For weeks I fought this internal battle but as time went on I gradually allowed the idea to wash over me, and it makes sense! I would like an older, seasoned Superman but I am yet to find an actor of that description to fit the role as Jared does. Take into account the direction studios seem to want to take everything these days and it's clear they will stay relatively young.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/21/2010, 12:48 PM
Now THAT'S the stach i remember!!! Very nice come back indeed!!! You are defitnitely a legend, Ron! I'm gonna have to agree with everything you've said ESPECIALLY with these phrases:

"Clark doesn't have to be a bumbling fool, infact he shouldn't. But I think we need to show him purposely allowing opportunities pass him by in order to stay low on the radar. It would be great to see this frustrate him as he still craves success as any human but understands what he must do to keep his secret."

I think Dean's charisma fit better for Clark in a TV series while your point would work best in a feature film. Routh did just that which was lay low all while toning down Reeve's Jerry Lewis/Charlie Chaplinesque tendencies. He did brilliant if you ask me but he is tied to Singer's flop. IMO, Jared's the definite choice especially since they surely will go younger. I'd love for James Caviezel to dawn the red panties, and Jon Hamm would also work but yeah, they'll go younger. And Jared although young, still looks like a man and not a 12 year old boy with muscles.

BTW, if you ever come accross the Lois & Clark box sets and you just happen to have some left over cannon fodder money, you should grab'em for a whirl. I think it's fun your whole family can join in on ;) Good ol' cheesy/light hearted fun!
jedibasswatson
jedibasswatson - 1/24/2010, 12:24 PM
hi ron i think you should give welling a chance , smallville has improved tenfold in the last 2 years since the crappy writers went , now with all the dc characters(JLA, JSA,Injustice league and suicide squad) in almost every week and hardly any more metor freaks 90210 buffy villans in it. its pretty awesome .
I believe that this tv movie is there legal way out of all the superman court stuff ,as i heard they are releasing it as a stand alone project , and using it to test the waters to see where to go next with Superman
McLovin
McLovin - 1/26/2010, 11:59 AM
I'm new to this site but have quickly realized that there are some brilliant minds here. I think this article was very well written and agree with a lot of the points made here. With one exception. I happen to think that much like Padalecki, Welling has also improved his acting skills over the years and has also gotten a bad rep due to bad scripts and bad writers. But a redemption and transition into the movies for him would only be one really good season of Smallville away. If only they can get him to identify the need of having the weak personality and progress into actually becomeing the Superman persona (suit and all), I could see Welling making a reasonable transition into the big screen. IJS ...
Shaman
Shaman - 1/27/2010, 8:20 AM
Welling would need more than just the suit to fit Superman's boots. He might have prooven his acting skills but he has yet to proove that he has what the true role of Superman requires. You really need more than baby blues and a square jaw to exude Superman's persona.
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