THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER Officially Denied A Theatrical Release In Malaysia

@OmegaDaGrodd - I love when you reply to your own posts babe. Its so healthy!

@heisei24 - Was it so? I remember it the other way around. Disney saying no just like here.

@heisei24 - they have no morality. It's whatever can make them the most money.

@ElvenKingSlayer - It was, yeah, I saw it on the first day of release. It definitely was banned in the Middle East though.
Thank god they didn't ban Doctor Strange too, I guess the two mom scene was too subtle for Malaysia's censorship board lol

@PapaSpank54 - The only way I see Falcon justifying this is that it was in front people and the guy was surrendering. I like it too, but I wasn't really enthralled with the Flag Smashers agenda. Kind of hoped Zemo would've had more of a villainous presence.

@PapaSpank54 @Arthorious @Origame - It's because whenever Sam has killed anyone it's been in the heat of a battle or when his enemies have posed an immediate risk to others nearby, and he's usually killed them pretty quickly. Walker, on the other hand, chased the guy down when he was fleeing, he wasn't even the guy who killed his friend, and then caught up to him and executed him essentially in cold blood in an incredibly brutal and violent way - all while wearing Captain America's uniform and using his shield, meaning he was being held to a higher standard.

The super soldier serum was clearly effecting Walker mentally, clouding his judgement and making him more rageful, which is why Sam and Bucky wanted to stop him so urgently.

@Origame - It's not in the heat of battle if one of them is fleeing. In the heat of battle means they're still actively trading blows. Steve Rogers never sought someone out after the fact to kill them, and neither had Sam.

Beyond that, the guy Walker killed was actively shown to be doubting Karli's increasingly extreme methods and seemed to be fleeing in part because he realised she'd taken things too far. So all Walker achieved in that moment was killing a man who was giving up the fight anyway.

And again it's also related to Walker's poor state of mind at the time - he even tried to justify the killing by saying that the Flag Smasher he'd killed was the one who killed Lamar, which he knew wasn't true (as you pointed out, he was the one restraining him), and Sam and Bucky basically had to call him out on the lie and remind him that they were there and witnessed the whole thing. Beyond that, he then even lied to Lamar's parents and continued to say that the man he'd killed was the one who killed Lamar, leading them to believe he'd avenged their son rather than admitting he'd flown into a blind rage and lashed out.

His actions were more in line with a character like The Punisher than Captain America, and as I'm sure you're well aware most superheroes in the Marvel universe aren't exactly fans of people like Frank Castle and the extremes they go to.

@AC1 - 1) the reason we call it heat is because of the tension of the situation. The whole reason they're there is to stop these terrorists from killing people. Just running away doesn't mean the heat is gone. Especially since he specifically fled into an area full of civilians.

2) I'm sorry, I don't give a single crap about his doubts. Ignoring the fact walker can't know about this, he's still working with her despite his doubts. The blood of all those people is still on his hands and he keeps going along with it without any intentions of trying to stop her or getting the others to see reason. He didn't flee when karli blew up a building full of innocent people. And only fled because Lemar dying meant this supersoldier sent to hunt them is now p!ssed. Like, all he did was give up specifically fighting in that moment. He didn't give up the cause of terrorism. And that still doesn't get past him already killing a bunch of people before.

3) again, that flag smasher prevented him from saving Lemar. He would've been an idiot for not thinking karli was gonna kill Lemar, especially with that doubt your previous point was hanging on.

4) it wasn't extreme. Walker was specifically there to deal with these terrorists. What do you think counter terrorism entails? Seal team 6 didn't care if any of the terrorists working with Osama bin laden were fleeing.

5) never said he shouldn't have. But you and the show make him out to be an absolute villain when supposed heroes do unquestionably worse things in the mcu. Need I remind you of the avalanche black widow didn't bat an eyelash at when yelena caused. Or the town Wanda took over just because she felt sad.

@Origame - the simple fact is that he was the new Cap, and that wasn't Cap behavior. He could have arrested him and interrogated him for the whereabouts of the remaining Flag Smashers but instead he basically decapitated him in a public setting with a shield that is supposed to symbolize freedom and justice and not capital punishment. You're really reaching to try and justify his actions. And I also don't think the show oaints him as an absolute villain at all. It does a really good job of showing his conflict and PTSD and the pressures of a regular solider trying to be a symbol for the whole world. Hes basically a what if story if that jocky bully dude had gotten the serum in First Avenger. What he did was wrong for a captain America specifically. Thats the difference.

@Origame - 1) "In the heat of something" - "To be in the most intense or active stage of some activity or situation" [dictionary.com]
Running away isn't the heat of the battle. The heat of the battle is when it's literally kill or be killed. If someone's running away there are usually many ways to subdue them without killing them.

2) Granted, Walker wouldn't have known the guy had doubts, but that's exactly the point - he took his head off before he got the chance to find out. Setting aside the moral conflict behind whether it was right to kill the guy or not after he'd stopped fighting and was effectively defenseless, there's also the practical element that Walker could've detained him and gotten information about the Flag Smashers that might've made it easier to take them down.

3) The Flag Smasher was fighting Walker but he didn't have a reason to think Karli would kill Lamar; he looked just as shocked as everyone else when it happened, and again him having doubts about Karli doesn't mean he automatically knows what she's going to do in any given moment - that's why they're called doubts, not certainties.

4) He actively chased after a fleeing, potentially surrendering individual and publicly decapitated him using Captain America's shield. That's pretty extreme.

5) I never made him out to be a villain. He's an anti-hero, he fights bad guys but he takes it to extremes. Also if I'm honest the Black Widow comparison is kinda going over my head because that film was a bit of a mess when it came to the action imo, while the WandaVision reference kinda backs up my point because Wanda was clearly in the wrong when she took over Westview (again even though it was understandable). I'm not saying those characters are villains, but they clearly did things that weren't right, and in John Walker's case his actions were absolutely not those of a real Captain America.

Also in response to your later comment to @NewNameWhoDis "ok, name one time MCU cap arrested someone"
Name one time MCU Cap chased someone who was running away and then decapitated them.

@AC1 - also, while mcu cap never specifically decapitated someone running, he did kill the hydra agents in the first avenger who were just fleeing in the climax. And in particularly brutal fashion like throwing them into propeller blades. Now actually answer the question.

@Marveladdict - you also talk way too much. 5 words too much.

@DarkModeDan - look, do you really think that terrorist wasn't gonna kill more people? And again, right after helping to kill Lemar? Come on.