ECHO Update: Recent Report Claiming The Series Was Deemed "Unreleasable" Has Been Debunked As False

ECHO Update: Recent Report Claiming The Series Was Deemed "Unreleasable" Has Been Debunked As False

If a new rumour is to be believed, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige ordered extensive reshoots for Echo after deeming early cuts of the series "unreleasable." You can find more details after the jump...

By JoshWilding - May 21, 2023 09:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo
Source: John Rocha

UPDATE: We've heard from sources in Disney who have confirmed Sneider's claims about the series are, in fact, false. Echo hasn't undergone reshoots and the show will be released as intended this November.

We'll continue bringing you all the latest updates on the Hawkeye spin-off as we have them!


Several months ago, we started hearing that Hawkeye spin-off Echo might be in trouble. It sounded a lot like there were creative issues with the Disney+ series, a bad sign when many fans have already questioned why the character needs her own TV show. 

Recently, Marvel Studios confirmed that all episodes (we still don't know how many there will be) of Echo will drop on November 29. That's led to more speculation about the possibility of the series not being very good, as a release like this obviously means it's over and done with in a few days, rather than weeks of possible bad reviews! 

We'll soon find out, but a new claim from insider Jeff Sneider on John Rocha's podcast suggests there has indeed been problems with Echo. Thankfully, they might have been fixed in recent months. 

"I heard the show was kind of plagued by issues throughout production," he started. "I heard that it was a mess, and that the show came in so bad that they basically had to reshoot the entire thing. I’m told that they originally shot 8 episodes, and [Kevin Feige] thought it was unreleasable, so they talked about cutting it down to 4 episodes, or 6 in post."

"But then they ended up reshooting it, so my source did not actually know how many episodes they wound up with," Sneider adds. "But yeah, apparently it needed a top-down rejiggering, and that Kevin was not happy with it."

Given how many times Echo has been delayed, this adds up, and it wouldn't be the first time Marvel Studios has saved a project with reshoots. With that in mind, we're not too concerned, and there is quite a lot of excitement among fans to see how it leads into Daredevil: Born Again

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

As noted, all episodes of Echo will premiere on Disney+ on November 29.

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URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 5/21/2023, 9:43 AM
Imagine how bad it was or will be if even Feige, the brilliant mind who approves of the dumbest shit in the MCU on a regular basis since 2013, thought it sucked.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 9:58 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS -

Casual reminder that your opinion on the MCU matters less than nothing:

mountainman
mountainman - 5/21/2023, 11:14 AM
@DrReedRichards - I don’t wish for the fall of the MCU, but Feige has signed off on some turds in recent years.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 11:54 AM
@mountainman -

I don't pretend Feige is infallible either. I'm merely pointing out when someone's criticism is constructive and when they're just being a petty contrarian moron.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/21/2023, 12:25 PM
@mountainman - Yes, that's not to say he's responsible for these turds. Like every producer he shares more responsibility than most but ultimately turds like Eternals or Thor 2 are down to their creative means.
Feige orders these films and gives the directors/writers a logline to follow off of.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 5/21/2023, 1:43 PM
@DrReedRichards - Based comment. Still subscribe to it. Also, that's a strawman. You aren't even debating my take, since you most likely agree with it. Feige is a terrible decision-maker.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 5/21/2023, 1:46 PM
@DrReedRichards - listen, you easily offended cry baby, don't school me on constructive criticisms whilist you're infamous for your hateful obsession with the Snyderverse. Second, it's not a contrarian thing to call out Feige on terrible decisions (which, yes, he's been approving of since 2013, when two awful, muddled by terrible decisions MCU movies were released at the same time), thus I grew tired of the MCU. If there wasn't the former problem, I'd have another opinion.

Cope.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 5/21/2023, 1:47 PM
@Blergh - Thor 2 had nothing creative about it, pal. Feige didn't even let the director edit it.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 1:49 PM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS -

You misunderstand me, son. I'm not here to "debate" your words.



Im here to point out why they don't matter.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 5/21/2023, 1:55 PM
@DrReedRichards - you're currently arguing with me because your fanboy heart got hurt due to me not being one of Feige's bootlickers. You even had time to screenshot my old comment, upload it to some server, and then copypaste its url here. Like, you sure I don't matter, crybaby?
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 2:00 PM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS -

You misunderstand me yet again, son. I'm not here to "argue" with you either.



I'm here to point out why you don't matter.
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/21/2023, 5:17 PM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - didn’t he make decisions on she hulk show had some say how it went ?
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/21/2023, 5:19 PM
@dragon316 - like your chosen name
mountainman
mountainman - 5/21/2023, 6:13 PM
@Blergh - I don’t think the low points of Phase 4 were Feige’s fault. I just said he signed off on them so his oversight doesn’t mean as much as it used to
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/21/2023, 8:41 PM
@DrReedRichards - that's weak man, at least try
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 9:10 PM
@Ryguy88 -

I do when I need to.
Variant
Variant - 5/22/2023, 11:41 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - Full stop. "Feige is a terrible decision maker."

This is one of THE dumbest things I've ever read. He established and led the MCU to being THE single most successful film franchise in cinematic history. And it's not even close. Not to mention across every single film they've ever produced they AVERAGE $800M+.

And PS - being a fan of the MCU doesn't equate to bootlicking. By that logic, you can't like anything. You just have to a miserable bastard like some of you. "Wah, I criticize everything. I'm a critic. Wah."

Sit tf down.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/22/2023, 8:47 PM
@DrReedRichards - hey, if you just attack the person you'll never be forced to think critically again
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/22/2023, 8:54 PM
@Ryguy88 -

Who's attacking whom, exactly? All I'm elaborating on is whose opinions are inconsequential and why. If they (whoever they might be) or anyone else happen perceive this as an attack, maybe they should be less hasteful in flexing their not-so-subtle schadenfreude next time?

Food for thought.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/23/2023, 7:44 AM
@DrReedRichards - you are taking the word attack too literally - I'm saying instead of countering the opinion or point made, you just critisized the person making the point and dismissed the point entirely.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/23/2023, 1:14 PM
@Ryguy88 -

...and I'm saying the person making said point would have still made it regardless of whether it's valid or not.

Is the MCU going through a quality crisis? You bet.

Does this person say so because they have the franchise's best interest at hand? Feel free to keep pretending that this is the case.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/23/2023, 6:34 PM
@DrReedRichards - biased people can still make valid points, I'm sure you do from time to time
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/23/2023, 6:49 PM
@Ryguy88 -

I do when I set my bias aside. With the user in question, that's clearly not the case.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 5/21/2023, 9:49 AM
When your show is so awfully Woke that even Kevin Feige can't hide his disgust, you know it's bad.

This is the guy who liked SHE-HULK!
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 5/21/2023, 9:52 AM
@HistoryofMatt - He will say he likes all their shows/movies once they're released no matter what he actually thinks
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/21/2023, 10:00 AM
@HistoryofMatt -

When your comment is so transparently spiteful that it can't hide your bias, you know it's beyond childish.

Might wanna change your YouTube subscriptions, G&G, TCD, NR, etc.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/21/2023, 9:55 AM
I legitimately question why some of these projects are being made.

The MCU should've had less content coming out after Endgame rather than more.
Amuro
Amuro - 5/21/2023, 10:46 AM
@HOTSHOT -

Because the MCU is popular and Disney wants to make the most money out of it.

The problem is that most of these shows turned out to be not really good or, at the very least, disappointing (the same with Star Wars). It ended up somewhat damaging the image of the brand and the worst is that most of these shows are necessary viewing for the movies. If they end up disappearing some day (like Willow), good chance for understanding the whole storyline of the MCU.
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