HAWKEYE - ROGERS: THE MUSICAL Composer Acknowledges Fan Disappointment With Post-Credits Scene

HAWKEYE - ROGERS: THE MUSICAL Composer Acknowledges Fan Disappointment With Post-Credits Scene

Rogers: The Musical composer Marc Shaiman has weighed in on the disappointment many fans have expressed with the decision to have that full musical "Save The City" serve as Hawkeye's post-credits scene.

By JoshWilding - Jan 06, 2022 09:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Hawkeye
Source: Inverse

While it was clearly meant as a fun holiday-themed gift for fans, Hawkeye's post-credits scene - the full-length version of "Save the City" from Rogers: The Musical - received a surprisingly mixed response. At this point, we've all come to expect stingers that set the stage for future stories or feature massive reveals, so the Disney+ series not heading down that route led to some backlash.

Even Hawkeye director Ryan Thomas expressed his surprise about the direction Marvel Studios chose to head down. Now, Rogers: The Musical composer and co-lyricist, Marc Shaiman, has weighed in on the frustration shared by fans since the show's finale was released. 

"I understand that there are a lot of people who would've expected and wanted the post-credits scene to be some new kernel of what's gonna happen next in the MCU. I completely get it," Shaiman told Inverse. "But it has been tough to know that by doing our job well, we made something that not everyone likes. It's been bittersweet almost, but to be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is crazy."

Despite being caught in the midst of this apparent controversy, the composer responded positively when asked about potentially returning for more MCU-themed musical numbers. "Well, of course we would. I mean, it was really a one-off. It was just there. It was an idea that almost came up as a joke one day and then they didn't let it go. It just kept coming up. But it was just to serve that one purpose of Hawkeye being in New York."

Shaiman penned "Save the City" with co-lyricist Scott Wittman; their previous credits include writing the music for Broadway musicals Hairspray, Catch Me If You Can, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Prior to this post-credits scene, the response to Rogers: The Musical had been positive.

Relive "Save the City" from Hawkeye below:
 

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OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/6/2022, 9:44 AM
@People genuinely mad about this

Origame
Origame - 1/6/2022, 9:46 AM
@OmegaDaGrodd - yeah. How dare we want something new instead of something we've already seen before (and get the full number on YouTube weeks before this episode). It's not like the mcu is known for its hype inducing post credit scenes or anything. /s
XMenGiveItToYa
XMenGiveItToYa - 1/6/2022, 9:53 AM
@Origame - Yeah, you want something new, like it for to be like every other post credits scene, instead of something you've already seen like something new.

This makes total sense.
Fogs
Fogs - 1/6/2022, 9:45 AM
I'm more disappointed with the series as a whole.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/6/2022, 9:57 AM
@Fogs

Me too. Thought the teasers were really fun, and the show wasn't bad at all just disappointing. Felt like a movie with all of the deleted scenes kept in to stretch it to a series length.

Echo, I appreciate what they're doing but I could care less about the character's future.

Kingpin's ending. Why even end with that when we know he's not going to die. Feels unsatisfying, doesn't wrap the story up in a nice bow. Was also confused as to why they acted like his reveal was some huge news to the characters in the show when I feel like someone like Wilson Fisk would be known throughout the MCU's New York.

Didn't love the show, haha.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/6/2022, 9:59 AM
@regularmovieguy - his ending suggesting he died was for the casuals. But real fans know from the comics thar Kingpin doesn't die from getting shot by Echo

Also... you can't please everyone. It's almost useless reading people's opinions anymore because for such an excellent show like Hawkeye, you'll get a post like yours (no offense to you, just a statement on how different we all see things and how expectations impact our perceptions)
SanFranLand
SanFranLand - 1/6/2022, 9:55 AM
I think it’s lost on people that the musical is SUPPOSED to be cringe because ALL musicals are over-the-top cringe. Hilarious really if people aren’t in on the joke
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/6/2022, 9:58 AM
@SanFranLand

Coming from someone who doesn't like musicals, this is a really bad take. Made even worse with your second comment, lmao. That's 100% not the joke.
Origame
Origame - 1/6/2022, 9:59 AM
@SanFranLand - ...no we got the joke. Very clear. The problem is when instead of a post credit stinger we got the full musical number instead. It's like the mcu equivalent of a rick roll.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/6/2022, 10:01 AM
@SanFranLand - agreed. Buts also the "where's my mephisto reveal and Dr. Strange cameo" people who simply can't fathom that a show didn't bend to their inklings.. a form of entitlement.

Hawkeye DOESNT HAVE to setup some big revelatory thing. It can be it's own show telling its own story.
SanFranLand
SanFranLand - 1/6/2022, 10:08 AM
@regularmovieguy - I’m a touring musician and hate musicals. But still tip the hat to the effort put in to the performance. Lyrics, melody, choreography. There’s a lot going on and it’s spot on. And goofy as hell.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/6/2022, 10:25 AM
@SanFranLand - LOL Exactly. The whole thing is introduced in the show as some shit Hawkeye basically needed to get dragged to. I feel like being a fan of this CB stuff really needs to come with some sort of media literacy 101 handouts because way too many things get complained about for being the specific thing they set out to be, largely because the fans themselves don't know how to engage with things that aren't tailored to their expectations
LeonNova
LeonNova - 1/6/2022, 10:02 AM
Marvel has definitely put pressure on themselves at this point to always deliver an interesting post-credits scene, that’s just what fans are expecting now. I wasn’t mad at it personally, because I recognize they’re supplementary scenes and don’t always expect them to be some cool character introduction, story revelation, or setup. I was mostly annoyed because of where they left things off with Kingpin, I was definitely hoping for something to do with him for the post-credits and was pretty annoyed when it turned out to be the musical. It was funny at the beginning of the show for that scene and a good way to show how awkward Clint feels about being considered a hero and a traumatic experience he actually lived through being adapted into a dumb musical. But I had no desire to see it again, much less in an extended format during the credits. All in all, it’s not that big of a deal, can’t wait to see Clint, Kate, Yelena, Echo, and Fisk again wherever they show up next.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/6/2022, 10:03 AM
I think they should’ve realized it was a bad idea when they said “just a joke”. I thought the Hawkeye series was a great show but the worst post credit Marvel has produced.
It should be well known by anyone making an MCU movie or series that the post cred stinger can make a good movie worse and a bad movie a little better. Spider-Man Home coming was good but the post cred trolled and annoyed me and Eternals was ok/not as good as some other MCU movies but the post cred left everyone talking about it. Marvel Studios should make a policy of making sure they end credits with something interesting that doesn’t troll their fans.
I mean they can have funny mid or post cred but make sure we also get something that leaves a good impression on our experience.
That is all.
PC04
PC04 - 1/6/2022, 10:04 AM
I thought the song was kind of cool. The whole "I can do this all day" chorus is great.
ymk700
ymk700 - 1/6/2022, 10:06 AM
Honestly, this was one of the best end credits scenes ever. My wife and kids absolutely loved it, and said they would pay to go see it live... lol.

Not every end credit scene has to move the universe forward; some can simply be for fun.
SecNotSure
SecNotSure - 1/6/2022, 10:09 AM
As cringy as it was in the first episode (hilariously so), seeing the entirety of that number actually had me enjoying the full sequence because it was so well put together. Like I could genuinely see them making a full on Broadway musical and it becoming a hit lol.
Unites
Unites - 1/6/2022, 10:14 AM
Sad that he even must release such statement. Some people really only seem to be able to enjoy MCU content if it sets up the next story or adventure rather than enjoying the content just for what it is. I liked the musical scene as a Christmas gift.
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