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MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 8/12/2019, 2:17 AM
Always a villain at heart.
lvcl
lvcl - 8/12/2019, 6:56 AM
Hope that the Enchantress, Lady Sif and other valkiries survive in Loki’s show
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 2:20 AM
So are we supposed to just keep forgetting everytime they set up time travel rules? Dr strange established that you can change the past just with vague consequences they never establish. Then you cant change the past as it just creates different timelines. Now you can change the past.
AC1
AC1 - 8/12/2019, 2:28 AM
@Origame - I'd assume the reason Doctor Strange and Endgame have different time travel rules is based on their method of time travel - in Endgame they use their own technology to travel through the Quantum Realm to different points in time and any changes that take place cause branches in the timeline.

In Doctor Strange, time is manipulated supernaturally by the Time Stone, which represents and controls time WITHIN the universe, so it's less that they're traveling through time and more that they're bending and altering time around them.

Basically, the machine in Endgame looks at time travel in a way that most fits in with our understanding of physics. The Time Stone completely breaks and supercedes the laws of physics.

As for what will happen in Loki - who knows. We don't even know HOW he'll be traveling through time, considering he has the SPACE Stone. I'm sure the method of his time travel shenanigans will explain the results, whether that means more timelines or just manipulation of the same timeline.
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 2:34 AM
@AC1 - they didnt even keep it straight in the movie itself. The writers and directors cant even agree on how the ending makes sense.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 8/12/2019, 2:38 AM
@Origame - Time travel is never established in Doctor Strange. What the hell are you talking about.
AC1
AC1 - 8/12/2019, 3:09 AM
@Origame - the directors are right, the writers are wrong. I find it incredibly frustrating that the writers actually wrote multiple lines explaining the rules in the movie and then when they're asked afterward they contradict their own writing and get it so wrong.

@DnA - time travel (or rather, time manipulation) happens on a very small scale in Doctor Strange, first when he rewinds and speeds up time with the apple in the library, and later when he rewinds the destruction of the Hong Kong Sanctum during the battle with Kaecilius.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 8/12/2019, 3:35 AM
@AC1 - I’m with you the writers are the only that are causing this confusion cause they’re contradicting what they wrote which is changing the past creates a new timeline and doesn’t Change your own
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/12/2019, 3:38 AM
@Origame - Dude it's really not that complicated. It's not Terminator or Back to the future. Everytime you go to the past and change something that wasn't meant to be changed you create a branch timeline. You can't change your present by altering the past, the movie is pretty clear about that.

This loki operates in an branch timeline. Nothing in the prime timeline will be changed.
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 3:58 AM
@AC1 - but that also has logical inconsistencies to it. In order to end up in the main timeline, steve needs to either use his own device, which can't be the case because then he'd appear on the pad when bruce activates it, or find a new way to come back to the main timeline which is pointless since he has his own device.
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 4:00 AM
@Jeight8 - im not saying its complicated. Im saying they're changing the rules. You aren't even mentioning dr strange, where they first introduced time travel and he was also changing the past. They keep changing how it works to suit whatever story they want to tell.
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 4:05 AM
@DnA - ...yes, time travel was most certainly introduced in dr strange. The eye was even the time stone. It was a major plot element that allowed strange to save hong kong after it was already destroyed and he used that creatively to make a time loop in order to stop dormamu. Mordo even left at the end saying that changing the past has unforeseeable consequences. How did you miss this? I mean its not what you normally associate with time travel (i.e. going to a specific date) but traveling a few minutes and seconds into the past is still traveling into the past.
AC1
AC1 - 8/12/2019, 4:14 AM
@Origame - if we try to look at it logically, the only difference in the timeline Steve went to is his presence there, meaning Peggy still probably died of old age around 2016, meaning at some point between 2016-2023 in that timeline Steve came back to pass the shield on to Sam.

Bearing in mind that he was in that timeline for something like 60 years, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he'd get people like Hank Pym and Tony Stark in that universe to take a look at the time watch thing and maybe alter it to give him a bit more control over where/when he could travel back to.

Meaning he may have returned to 2023 in the prime timeline before his younger self left, explaining why he didn't appear on the time pad as expected, and why he was sat on the bench at the right time and not wearing a Quantum suit.

Of course, none of that is explained in the movie so it's still kinda unfair on the audience that they have to make such a big assumption for it to make sense, but at least it doesn't contradict anything in the movie, making it the more fitting explanation.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 8/12/2019, 4:23 AM
@DnA - I genuinely wonder what movies people think they're watching when they comment on this site
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 8/12/2019, 4:37 AM
@AC1 - Exactly. Dr. Strange basically uses the time stone the same way Bruce ages Scott

He's manipulating the time of objects (on a grand scale) rather than actually traveling through time itself
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 4:42 AM
@AC1 - him merely being in the past is a difference. Not to mention he wasn't just in the past. He lived a full life with peggy.

Also, as you said, none of that was explained as even a possibility. Its too much of a logical leap to claim that, when entering the same time, that you'd just return to the main timeline.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/12/2019, 4:42 AM
@Origame - Dr. Strange didn’t travel through time, he manipulated it. There’s a major difference between the two.
Origame
Origame - 8/12/2019, 4:44 AM
@PlusUltra - don't know how you justify that. Where did they say its manipulating time and not actually traveling through it? And how can you manipulate it without actually traveling in the first place?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/12/2019, 4:51 AM
@Origame - In the film, Doctor Strange.

“Temporal manipulations can create branches in time.” Mordo to Dr. Strange

“You weren't manipulating the space-time continuum, you were wrecking it.“ - Mordo to Dr. Strange
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/12/2019, 4:53 AM
@Origame - No, they are not. Time Stone's power influences a certain area that the spell affects. It can't turn back time for years. It basically turns back the area the spell targets.

They are not changing anything.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/12/2019, 4:58 AM
@Origame - “And how can you manipulate it without actually traveling in the first place?”

Like this.
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