James McAvoy Is Not Sure That The X-MEN Would Be A Good Fit For The Marvel Cinematic Universe

James McAvoy Is Not Sure That The X-MEN Would Be A Good Fit For The Marvel Cinematic Universe

It's only a matter of time before we see The X-Men characters introduced to The MCU, but Glass star James McAvoy, who also happens to play Professor X, is not sure it'd be a particularly smooth transition.

By MarkCassidy - Jan 15, 2019 09:01 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men
Now that Disney has secured the rights to 20th Century Fox's stable of Marvel characters, it's all-but certain that we will see The X-Men cross paths with The Avengers at some point in the future - but one star of the current franchise is not convinced the mutant heroes would be a good fit for The MCU.

While speaking to Yahoo! about his new movie Glass, James McAvoy was asked about a potential crossover, and the actor explained why he feels bringing those universes together may not necessarily work.


“I don’t know if the X-Men could go into the Marvel universe, I’m not sure. Maybe they could? But I think what’s different about the Avengers universe anyway is you’ve only got a couple of superheroes in the world. There’s a good amount, but there’s like a couple of football teams’ worth, you know what I mean? Whereas in the X-Men world you’re potentially saying there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of [superheroes] and the social implication of that is different.”

Of course, Marvel has been making it work for a long time in the comics, but McAvoy does raise some interesting and valid points about the MCU. We've gone 10 years without any acknowledgment of mutants even existing, so it might be a difficult sell if and when The X-Men do show up and begin mixing it up with Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

That said, if anyone can figure out a satisfactory explanation, it's Kevin Feige and co.!

What do you guys make of McAvoy's comments? Be sure to share your thoughts down below.


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L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 1/15/2019, 9:03 AM
Well I'm not sure McAvoy would be a good fit for Professor X in the MCU anyways...

regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/15/2019, 9:18 AM
@L0RDbuckethead

I think he’s just talking about how it would be difficult to retcon mutants into the MCU.

Either way, it’s happening.
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 1/15/2019, 9:31 AM
@regularmovieguy - He is. I was just being cheeky.
crawley
crawley - 1/15/2019, 9:42 AM
@L0RDbuckethead - I'd like to see Mcavoy heel turn and be Galactus or Doom. And Fassbender should become a hero.
Matador
Matador - 1/15/2019, 9:53 AM
@L0RDbuckethead - Cheeky you say I'll be the judge of that
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 10:04 AM
@L0RDbuckethead - I guess being a good actor is not fit for the MCU? LOL. Michael fassbender and James McAvoy will put everyone's acting to the test.

But I'm not sure if Disney is willing to make a political film about equality? CW, BP, & TWS was tame because it focused more on the characters than message. Not sure if Disney is willing to sacrifice box office in China to include gays, politics, trans, etc. as those characters and topics are heavily censored over there.

China just passed a law where all films in theater must be the same cut as its release in other territories. No special or exclusive cut can be made for China. This is the biggest reason why Fox re-released Deadpool 2's PG-13 cut.
McGribble
McGribble - 1/15/2019, 10:29 AM
@regularmovieguy - I can't recall where I heard it but someone had a great idea regarding how it could easily be done. Simply have it where Prof X did a global mind wipe using ceribro to eliminate any knowledge of mutants for everyones memory. You could start the franchise in the past and end it with the mind wipe. Fast forward to present and you have a large event that brings to light the existence of mutants again. This is a really dumbed down version of what they guy laid out but it seriously sounded AWESOME!
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 1/15/2019, 10:47 AM
@mastakilla39 - You feel better after getting all that out?

I just don't think McAvoy is right for Xavier, never have.

He's a good actor. Same with Fassbender.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 11:16 AM
@L0RDbuckethead - Yeah, because Marvel did such a great job with rebooting Homecoming...that was
Kumkani
Kumkani - 1/15/2019, 9:05 AM
Feige will make it work. Probably without you though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 1/15/2019, 9:09 AM
@DnA - yeah, outside of the Deadpool characters, we can expect all the Fox-Men to get recast
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 10:13 AM
Sadly they will. James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Tye Sheridan, & Jennifer Lawrence (when she cares) are great actors. It will be sad if the MCU does not focus on great performances because X-Men stories require more acting than costumes and cgi spectacle.

Black Panther only worked because of the actors' performances. If Ryan Coogler leaves there is going to be a huge dip in quality similar to when Kenneth Branaugh left Thor 1.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 1/15/2019, 11:06 AM
@mastakilla39 - There are great actors who are not necessarily those actors. No one disputed Andrew Garfield as an actor; it was just a clean slate thing. Tom Hanks as Professor X and Denzel Washington as Magneto or go against type (since he was literally Malcolm X), Denzel as Professor X and Tom Hanks as Magneto. Eva Green as Mystique. And don't get me started on potential Cyclops. Acting wise, we will do fine. Feige will make sure these are treated as A-properties.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 11:23 AM
@DalekCraigWasson - Andrew Garfield was a miscast. Too handsome, too emo, too stuttery as Peter Parker. Great voice for Spider-Man but too cocky at times. The X-Men cast has been perfect, just terrible continuity problems. Marvel tends not to go for A-List stars like Denzel & Tom Hanks so not sure how they will remake X-Men as they tend not to rehash wants been done in the past. Not sure if there is more to be done with the X-Men as Fox has already done it all. Only thing left is to make a reboot like Homecoming where its just fun with no substance.
adamcawa
adamcawa - 1/15/2019, 11:31 AM
@mastakilla39 - I felt like Fox barely touched on the mutant hatred side of things, even in First Class. Aside from some random news videos, it was hardly ever a pressed point in the Fox films.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 1/15/2019, 11:34 AM
@mastakilla39 - Over the last couple years, I read the entire run of Uncanny X-Men from Lee/Kirby to Jim Lee, and there are hundreds of stories not yet told. The Sentinels have never even been done in the modern day! They were the unstoppable Nimrod versions in the future and had a brief fight scene in the 1970s, but we have never gotten actual, honest to God Sentinels hunting mutants in the modern day status quo.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 11:42 AM
@adamcawa - I think the original trilogy already did enough. Fox already did the cure arc, god loves men kills comic, and phoenix arc. The first class trilogy did days of future past & apocalypse. So I think enough was said about mutant vs humans.
adamcawa
adamcawa - 1/15/2019, 11:56 AM
@mastakilla39 - "did" them but they did them VERY poorly and very watered down (at least the OG trilogy)
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 12:35 PM
@DalekCraigWasson - Correct, the X-Men have countless stories to tell. But in my opinion, the most popular ones have already been adapted.

The problem with the MCU is each film leads into an Avengers team up. That has only been working because the MCU is mostly comprised of solo characters and unknown teams who’s comic universes are not that big. So when an Avengers film happens its an easy sell to see them unite and easy to fill them in. I am already noticing a problem with the MCU's Spiderman is the stories they are telling have to be generic and small. Spider-Man cannot have a major events (like the spider-verse) or go through drastic changes (like the human spider mutation arc) because those stories will affect the avengers film and potentially overshadow it. So the MCU is already stuck in a creative dilemma because the Spider-Man & X-Men franchises are too big to fit into the MCU. Spider-Man and X-Men have multi-verses and time travel stories that are too big for the MCU to handle. Spider-Man and X-Men have enough material to create their own universe.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 12:46 PM
@adamcawa - I do not believe audiences will pay for the same story twice unless the franchise has taken at least a 4 year hiatus. Most have already skipped Bumble Bee which is a reboot of the 1st film and a reboot of the Bay-verse. The OG trilogy already did what most films are still doing: staying only 10 - 30% accurate then making the rest of the film standalone. MCU is already using that formula with the current MCU. The MCU and its directors are not fans of adapting storylines for accuracy or "remaking films".
dmac3232
dmac3232 - 1/15/2019, 12:59 PM
@DalekCraigWasson - As someone who grew up reading and loving those books, there's so much stuff they overlooked or outright botches. There have been some great highs, but also notable lows. Overall, it's been inconsistent and, more often than not, mediocre.

More than anything, I don't think they ever really completely captured the overall feel and the spirit, which is what Marvel Studios just so happens to do best. They never bothered to invest much time outside the Prof X/Magneto/Wolverine trio, with Mystique being lumped in because they wanted to capitalize on Jennifer Lawrence.

And in the process they completely botched/ignored classic characters like Colossus (the Deadpool team nailed him on their first try) and Storm, so I'm more than ready to give somebody else a try. Especially when that somebody has consistently captured the essence of why we love any of these characters in the first place.
rabid
rabid - 1/15/2019, 9:06 AM
They'll handle it the same way the INFINITY crossover event handled it. Multiple reality incursions until there are only two realities left. Then they merge. If Avengers 4 shows us a multiverse and ends with Thanos being imprisoned, then it's a clear sign that they're following that path.
Comicbookart
Comicbookart - 1/15/2019, 9:37 AM
@rabid - lol. No they wont. Feige will have complete control over Xmen. Everything will be rebooted even the actors. Mcavoy is just trying to keep his job.
newhire13
newhire13 - 1/15/2019, 10:19 AM
@Comicbookart - Haha, you’re kidding right? It’s not like the man is hurting for work lol. They asked him and he pointed out a legitimate issue with having the X-Men in the MCU.
Comicbookart
Comicbookart - 1/15/2019, 10:47 AM
@newhire13 - And?

He stil wants to keep a lucrative source of income. One of the Most lucrative sources of income for actors at this point, being part of a superhero franchise. That has nothing to do with whether anything he said is valid or not.

And I think what he said is not valid. In a world with only a few heroes the "social implications" of that has already changed that entire universe. Having more or less superpowered beings at this point is not as much of an issue as he's making it.
DillonEnnis
DillonEnnis - 1/15/2019, 9:08 AM
He is raising a good issue, although I'm sure Marvel will account for this. It's the same thing I've thought when considering the X-Men joining the MCU, the comics explain it in kind of a clunky way so hopefully they would be able to maintain the negative public perception of mutants vs. their perception of the Avengers with a smoother explanation.
Deonox
Deonox - 1/15/2019, 10:41 AM
@DillonEnnis - Actually Infinity War set this up perfectly. Wanda and Pietro received their powers after being subjugated to the mind Stone. You can have it be activating the X-Gene used to be very rare. But then when half the population was wiped and brought back, it triggered the X-Gene for thousands of potential mutants. So you have established superheroes who are loved as a thing, and now random mutants popping up everywhere scaring the public. So now you have the public having 2 clear distinctions between the 2 factions
DillonEnnis
DillonEnnis - 1/15/2019, 10:50 AM
@Deonox - I just don't necessarily find the distinction made to be that believable. I've seen it explained as the public being fearful of mutants due to evolutionary implications, but I've always struggled with the idea that they would be so shocked by the potential long-term effect of the X-Gene and eventually being subjugated by those mutants and not being afraid of being subjugated by any super-powered being that exists.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/15/2019, 11:12 AM
@DillonEnnis - TBH the comics don't really address this issue either. I think the X-Men rarely crossed over with the Avengers because if 2 overpowered teams united it was too hard for the writers to make a good story. X-men has always been about equality and Avengers about the everyday struggle of being a superhero. The avengers never encountered a problem about equality until Civil War's Superhero Registration act which was a rip-off of X-Men's Mutant Control act. They tried to explain this plothole when they formed the Illuminati, but like you said it was clunky.

If the MCU wants to introduce mutants into the MCU without dimension warping or reality bending they just have to follow the Illuminati arc. Have Tony Stark form the Illuminati without Cap's approval to govern all kinds of threats. Have Tony explain why mutants never appeared in any films because he appointed Xavier to handle all mutant related problems from the public's eye. Then introduce Hope Summers who is brought into the past by Cable/Deadpool and scare the Avengers because she was prophesied to end the world. Then have Cable, Deadpool, & the X-Men fight the Avengers in an epic 2 film event like Infinity War to determine Hope Summer's fate.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 1/15/2019, 11:20 AM
@DillonEnnis - I do think there is a clear difference between men in suits of armor / Cap / etc. and your neighbor or son potentially developing super powers, but the best way is to bring the hypocrisy forward and have it be addressed in the story.

Introduce the Fantastic Four at the same time, even more explicit celebrities than the Avengers, the Kardashians of the superhero world who get publicity when they go globetrotting, while the X-Men are this feared, distrusted minority group who people aren't sure if are heroes or villains.

Have the X-Men perform disaster relief and the public shun them and assume they were responsible. Cyclops wants to be like Captain America, like Spidey does with Irom Man, but the public doesn't see them that way. He can lament and rage to Jean, "Why not us? Why do we do the same things and they're loved and we're hated? What did we do to deserve being treated like this?" "Nothing," Jean says. Turn a potential flaw into THE central issue of X-Men: prejudice.
DillonEnnis
DillonEnnis - 1/15/2019, 11:32 AM
@DalekCraigWasson - This is along the lines of what I think should be done. I think they should shine a light on the issue and it can be as if not more of a profound story beat than when it was used in the early X-Men films. @mastakilla39 you hit the nail on the head in terms of what I was talking about with how it isn't really that clear in the comics, which is why I think it would be even more important to address in live action. How they specifically bring them into the universe is almost secondary to dealing with the X-Men thematically in my opinion.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 1/15/2019, 9:09 AM
And somehow it works just fine in the comics. It requires some adaptation, which is what most of the mutants are all asking for at any rate.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 1/15/2019, 9:09 AM
Personally, I never thought that the concept of mutants in the 616 universe worked if taken too far, and “millions” on a level that would make them super-heroes is too far.

Most random mutations should be pretty damn useless, at least for fighting/causing crime. And for the right level of fear, notable mutant populations should probably be around the same numbers as the outbreak of the Zika virus... not really all the plausible that you’re going to come into daily contact with one, but big enough to be national (and international) news and cause a panic.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 1/15/2019, 9:21 AM
@Chewtoy - The number I like is ~one in a million. That's about four mutants born in the US every year (and handily explaining why the Original Five were all Americans around the same age when Charles recruited them). In all, that means about 7 thousand mutants (give or take) in the world. The vast majority of them are still useless or covert mutations, meaning there are only about a hundred or so really potent ones.

(Actually, if we're getting into the details, I'm not all that happy with the idea that "mutation" is a single phenomenon or how the X-gene is generally depicted, but that's not worth going into.)
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 1/15/2019, 9:37 AM
@Spock0Clock - those numbers work for me. I even like the idea being floated by others that the power of the Infinity Stones affects the X-gene, making it more active or just less genetically recessive, and so the pre-teens with the gene in the half of the population that got wiped out and (presumbably) restored are more likely to develop mutant powers (or significant ones) now, and the same is true with babies being born after all of this, leading to it becoming a crisis.
Evansly
Evansly - 1/15/2019, 9:46 AM
@Spock0Clock - I really like this figure, really adds to your idea of how to implement X-Men into the MCU from over a year ago. They are in such short number they are an anomaly without a name until they become more mainstream
adamcawa
adamcawa - 1/15/2019, 11:41 AM
@Chewtoy - at the height of mutant kind, when the attack on Genosha takes place, it's revealed there are about 30 million mutants worldwide. MDay shredded those numbers down to less than 200.
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