THE EXPENDABLES Producer On Why Female-Led EXPENDABELLES Spin-Off Is No Longer Happening

THE EXPENDABLES Producer On Why Female-Led EXPENDABELLES Spin-Off Is No Longer Happening

There had been plans for The Expendables franchise to expand with The Expendabelles, but producer Jeffrey Greenstein has now explained why the female-led spin-off is no longer set to become a reality.

By JoshWilding - Nov 08, 2022 03:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Action
Source: THR (via ActioNewz.com)

When news first broke about plans for a female-led Expendables spin-off, the reaction from fans of the hit action franchise was overwhelmingly positive. After all, the main series had focused on legends like Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jet Li, so the prospect of some badass women stepping into the spotlight...well, it had undeniable potential.

Unfortunately, the movie has been stuck in development hell for some time, and Millennium Films President Jeffrey Greenstein has now shed some light on why this project has yet to become a reality.

"With The Hitman’s Bodyguard, Salma’s character was just so much fun, it made sense to build the second film around her. We also like working with the same people, so we did Till Death with Megan and she’s in the new Expendables," he tells The Hollywood Reporter (via ActioNewz.com). "It’s really just about working with talented people."

"But I will say something: We’d been trying to develop The Expendabelles, a female version of The Expendables, but my problem with that project was always trying to find a way to justify why we’d have a woman team. Instead of trying to explain that, why not just have women on the regular team and [they’re] badass?"

"Instead of having to explain why a women character got there and all that," Greenstein continued, "you just do what you’d do with a man: show them kicking ass."

It's a valid point, and Hollywood has changed an awful lot since The Expendabelles was first announced. The reaction to Avengers: Endgame's divisive "A-Force" moment shows that many women don't want to be pandered to, hence why the likes of Charlie's Angels and Ocean's Eight have struggled to find even a female audience. 

Megan Fox joining the upcoming fourth instalment is a step in the right direction, though it's unclear how many other women will be alongside her in that formidable team of action heroes. 

The Expendables 4 is set to arrive in theaters on September 22, 2023.

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grif
grif - 11/8/2022, 3:04 PM
lol whatever. is 4 even happening?
dracula
dracula - 11/8/2022, 3:15 PM
@grif - yes, its going to be stallone’s last and statham is going to be the focus
grif
grif - 11/8/2022, 3:26 PM
@dracula - shit keeps getting pushed back its a joke. thats whats i am saying.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/8/2022, 3:06 PM
They were gonna call it "Expendabelles"? smh

This world. 2 steps forward, 3 steps back.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 11/9/2022, 1:32 AM
@ObserverIO - I think it's hilarious this film has been stuck in development hell because they can't find a realistic reason for...... dude, do you know what franchise you are writing for? The Expendables has always been self aware action movie cheese dialed to 11.

You don't need a "realistic reason" for anything in the Expendables universe, just make shit bad ass and the ladies kick as while looking great. That's what worked for the guys. Just shredded dudes kicking ass.

That this has been in development hell for this long over writing hang ups is [frick]ing hilarious to me. I could write this script in an hour.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 11/9/2022, 3:59 AM
@ElricReturns - its because this is a Female led film, so the script needs to be empowering and send messages, instead of just being cheesy action fun like the Male led films.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/8/2022, 3:06 PM
Having a women team would actually make sense depending on who they're going up against and the environment they would be in.


No one will suspect them and maybe they would be in the middle east freeing oppressed women?🤔


Don't know but something like that.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 11/8/2022, 3:10 PM
"but my problem with that project was always trying to find a way to justify why we’d have a woman team", if only more producers thought like that...
Origame
Origame - 11/8/2022, 3:27 PM
@Urubrodi - exactly. Same with the a force movie marvel is talking about. What logical reason is there to limit it to just the women when the avengers never limited it to just guys?
dracula
dracula - 11/8/2022, 3:14 PM
Eh none of the names they were thinking about getting excited me anyway

Deklipz
Deklipz - 11/8/2022, 4:14 PM
@dracula - Pretty much this. Anyone who’s worth a shit action wise wasn’t going anywhere near this. Megan Fox? SMH… Who else? Gina Carano? Kristen Stewart? It’s not like they’d have had signournet weaver and Linda Hamilton or anyone who’s done anything worthwhile. What’s Megan Fox done in action movies? Run around and scream while giant robots jerk off over her? 🙄
BlackSpiderman
BlackSpiderman - 11/8/2022, 4:41 PM
@Deklipz - I'll be honest, that's how I felt when Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman. What had she done action wise before taking that role other than be the beautiful woman in the Fast and Furious franchise? But, everyone seems to like her as Wonder Woman, so I concede defeat in that argument.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 11/8/2022, 5:52 PM
@BlackSpiderman - Yeah but Wonder Womans selling point isn't that it's filled with action movie legends. Expendebelles would only have worked with actual action movie legends or at the VERY least established action stars. None of the women involved were that at all. Fox was closest and that's a stretch.
BlackSpiderman
BlackSpiderman - 11/11/2022, 8:57 AM
@Deklipz - Yeah, fair point. I was trying to keep a positive outlook on this idea but maybe there isn't really a market for this project at the moment.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 11/12/2022, 7:58 AM
@BlackSpiderman - I think the current approach of just having women that can hold their own on screen with the men is the best approach, though I’d prefer classic action heroines rather than some lame as Kristen Stewart or Megan Fox add ins which are only for eye candy.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 11/8/2022, 3:24 PM
It was an awful idea. Just stick them on the main team. It's fine, especially if they're well written too.
Chuck420Taylor
Chuck420Taylor - 11/8/2022, 3:25 PM
The supposed story sounded so bad, good thing it won't move forward.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/8/2022, 3:26 PM
How to justify an all women's team? Probably they're the best in their field. I just don't get the pandering argument.

Never had to justify why all characters were white men(in general, not the expendables) as soon as some inclusion-type stuff is brought up a bunch of insecure people are mad.

It's a movie, suspend your disbelief. Vin diesel mumbled some words, stomped, and broke a roof and that movie made a billion.
DCasAhobby
DCasAhobby - 11/8/2022, 3:45 PM
@MyCoolYoung - "It's a movie, suspend your disbelief."

I don't agree with this. I don't think all movies should be mindless unrelatable fluff. Asking what if within a realistic setting is what makes films great.

In this case there's a reason why you never see all female soldier teams in the real world. Because that shit is make believe to the max. Just remember when a man told the world he was a woman then entered female swimming competetions he went from rank 439 to #1.

Most people don't want mindless woke dog shit for entertainment
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/8/2022, 4:11 PM
@DCasAhobby - I never said mindless dogshit entertainment, but you suspend your disbelief for the expendables period. Any time you watch an action movie and one man outguns group upon group with a pistol? Suspended disbelief.

When the protagonist is fighting people with guns and for some reason that one person who has the jump on him mindlessly walks up on him within arms reach to shoot? Suspended disbelief.

When someone can get hit with a sink and barely has a scratch? Suspended disbelief.

Tom cruise jumping off a building? Yes he does his own stunts but he has help and harnesses. Suspended disbelief
There are no all female teams in the real world, but you know what the movie world is? Not real. You got people shooting handguns with almost no kick back and that shit ain't real either.

Don't just apply the real-world spill to one thing.
grif
grif - 11/8/2022, 3:27 PM
there was going to be a tv show also.
Kyos
Kyos - 11/8/2022, 3:38 PM
How did they "justify" having an all men team before? 🤷🏻‍♂️
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