EDITORIAL: Why Delaying 'The Avengers' Is A Bad Idea For Marvel!

EDITORIAL: Why Delaying 'The Avengers' Is A Bad Idea For Marvel!

Pre production has been delayed weeks already setting a bad trend over at Marvel!

By jman1977 - Nov 05, 2010 07:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

'The Avengers' will lay the ComicBookMovie foundation for years to come, setting a standard to top and also setting a mark to shot for when making any ComicBookMovie!



Like a revolving door, Marvel wants it done on the cheap. For Iron Man 1 Marvel tagged Robert Downey Jr. at almost less then nothing, Sony made Spider-Man 1 at a very low cost only to turn it around and make millions at the box office. Yes, Millions!!

So what is wrong with Marvel? Well, nothing. A successful company does not become successful if they spend all their money on one basket. It makes sense from a business point of view to hire new actors and squeeze out the highest paid actors to stay in budget (Terrence Howard and Edward Norton). Do I agree with it? No. For the fans the continuity I think is an important issue, but the Box Office didn't seem to care. Iron Man 2 re cast the role of Rhodes, dropping an expensive Terrence Howard for a cheap Don Cheadle, and the film did not miss a beat (except for, and this is my only gripe about Iron Man 2, NOT ENOUGH IRON MAN). So why wouldn't fans expect Marvel to do the same with 'The Avengers'?

Because, fans demand quality when it involves a property that they care about!

More from BleedingCool:

'But certain people are saying Marvel are demanding they get it all done on the relative cheap. For something not far off what Sony paid to make their first Spider-Man film (at least in real terms).

Some people say it can't be done. Others say it can be done – even if then, in certain well heeled Los Angeles bars, they assure each other that it can't. And while some people have walked off the project, others are planning a longer game. Basically do the work, then when they run out of budget (which they believe they will) trust that Marvel Studios and their investors will pony up the extra necessary cash rather than leave the movie unfinished.'

If 'The Avengers' ultimately does not get made or delayed for a year because Marvel doesn't want to go over budget and pay their actors and supporting staff then Kevin Feige's skull will probably be on display at the Brooklyn Bridge to be made an example of, like Braveheart.

Marvel will make stupid money off of 'The Avengers', STUPID MONEY (That Means a lot)! So for Marvel to be petty and delay an entire movie (Not just any movie but one that has been anticipated for quite some time, think as significant as Donner's Superman but more important to the CBM industry as a whole) that they have been promoting already for a couple years would be ludicrous and will not happen. This is the time when Marvel needs to put up and pay their actors and get 'The Avengers' made without another major casualty. Edward Norton was the first blow, pre production being delayed is the second, let's hope we wont have to endure any more.
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dahamma
dahamma - 11/5/2010, 7:46 AM
bro i dont think the source bleeding pool provided wasn't legit at all, I mean, why would marvel NOT put money in this movie, and with disney now backing them, ....naw i dont think their gonna go cheap with the avengers
SHHH
SHHH - 11/5/2010, 7:53 AM
I'd be worried if they were rushing it..
Minato
Minato - 11/5/2010, 8:05 AM
I think you got a point but It is completely unrealistic to do a Avengers movie on Spiderman 1 movie budget. I almost believed you till that point. If there is a point to be made its PLEASE DONT SHORTCHANGE THE BUDGET. I can see how itll be crazy expensive to have The Thunderer and Shell Head on screen at once.
rodsvilaca
rodsvilaca - 11/5/2010, 8:06 AM
July 20, 2012 -> The Dark Knight Rises.

December 14 or 21, 2012 -> The Man of Steel
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Orphix
Orphix - 11/5/2010, 8:08 AM
@Yoassarian - LOL. Nice comment!! Made me laugh dude :o)

Well there are two arguments I guess - a film with so many characters that rely on special effects will be very expensive to make.

However - it could be seen as a cheap option cos it is cheaper to make one film with all these people than individual films with just one character at a time.

All the same Thor and Captain America will have to perform BIG TIME in order for Disney to put in the money this film would need to make work.

Shaman
Shaman - 11/5/2010, 8:09 AM
Now, i could be wrong but... wasn't this editorial already posted before? Like yesterday or the day before? But like i said, i could be wrong. I just thought for sure that i already saw that on main a little while back.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 11/5/2010, 8:09 AM
I think Marvel/Disney should just scrap the Ant-Man movie, and use the funds to provide a great Origin story involving Hank Pym allowing for for a bigger budget sequel with Ultron as the villain.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 11/5/2010, 8:10 AM
I still call BS on this story. If it is true I expect its dead, and I don't believe that for a second. Marvel's credibility would go out the window, after the ComicCon thing, if they cancel now.

marvel72
marvel72 - 11/5/2010, 8:15 AM
money shouldn't be a problem.

if fox can waste $210 million on x-men 3,why can't marvel & disney put their vast fortune together & give us a avenger movie we all want to see.

if they fail to make the avengers you won't see a justice league movie.
AlReg
AlReg - 11/5/2010, 8:27 AM
Bleeding Cool is a website I do not take seriously but I do see something as big as The Avengers having many problems from writing to actor's egos to the budget.
capcyclopsftw
capcyclopsftw - 11/5/2010, 8:29 AM
Stop putting shit into people's heads about the Avengers being delayed....IT'S NOT BEING DELAYED!!! BLEEDING COOL IS A SHIT WEBSITE. Its a troll website. that's it. Marvel will put their all into this project and do it right! All you whiny ass bitches need to have more positive attitudes.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 11/5/2010, 8:37 AM
Someone who thought that "Spider-Man" was made by Marvel clearly has no real insight to offer.

I also find it amusing how $500,000 is considered 'next to nothing'. Keep in mind that RDJ's blockbuster career was non-existent before he was Iron Man. The fact that he does this for so cheap shows that he has a passion for the character. Personally, I think it's sickening that actors like Tobey Maguire demand 50 million to play Spider-Man again. What a [frick]ing asshole.
mainstream05
mainstream05 - 11/5/2010, 8:40 AM
This editorial completely fails to explain why delaying the film is specifically a bad idea for Marvel.
tripttwe
tripttwe - 11/5/2010, 8:44 AM
Isn't this what the merger was ALL about??? If Disney EVER wanted to gamble on something, this would be it!!! The Avengers is an absolute no-brainer! It will break ALL box office records, even if it's just above average at best! The fact that people will get to see Hulk, Thor, Captain America, & Iron Man ALL IN ONE FLIM?!??? nERdGAsM!!!!
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 11/5/2010, 8:45 AM
There was no real source for this news on Bleeding Cool, thus I take this with a grain of salt. No more credibility to this rumor than the rumor of Anthony Hopkins and Chris Hemsworth not getting along while filming Thor. Certain people saying certain things and then it spreads whether it is true or not. Screenrant writes this up pretty well without passing it off as fact.

Please show us confirmed sources that anything has been delayed to date or IS going to be delayed. Otherwise, change the teaser line and learn to distinguish between fact and rumor.
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 11/5/2010, 8:46 AM
o_O
Stumblin
Stumblin - 11/5/2010, 8:47 AM
Yeah Shaman this was posted before, I guess he made some changes.

Personally I don't see what the big deal is if they delay the movie a year to make sure they don't go over budget and get things right. Am I missing something?
ManThing
ManThing - 11/5/2010, 8:48 AM
..... orrrr it could mean absolutely nothing.

In fact....

It probably doesn't.
Shaman
Shaman - 11/5/2010, 8:54 AM
Thanks Stumblin! For a moment there i thought i was either getting crazy or becoming precog LMAO ;P

Juggernaut- ...orrrrrr... no, you could totally be right LOL
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 11/5/2010, 9:11 AM
Money isn't the issue (IMHO). It's simply a case of doing it right and timing. One possible problem will be the inevitable popularity growth of the leading cast, and I'm not on about money. All the actors have signed multi-picture deals so that side of budgeting is taken care of, the main actors wages are not an issue. But as their popularity grows they will be signed onto more and more projects, the problem is pinning them all down at the same time.

What I imagine the main hold up to be is Marvel simply waiting to gauge the public interest in Thor and Cap. They know we will be buzzing around these movies but they need solid evidence that the general public are interested. Once they have that they can budget accordingly and have greater leverage to push the budget window they already have set up.
Superzero
Superzero - 11/5/2010, 9:12 AM
I fail to see where Edward Norton not being Bruce Banner is the first "stumbling point" in this movie. Big [frick]ING DEAL! I really never expected him to come back in the first place and even though I like him as an actor I firmly believe his attitude would have hurt the film. He re-wrote TIH and look into what he did on "American History X" Trust me, him not being a part of Marvel is a good thing. Also I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that Marvel and and Disney are going to do anything BUT [frick] this one up. There is just waaaaaay to much riding on it.
JaySchluffy
JaySchluffy - 11/5/2010, 9:13 AM
This is the third article about Avengers possibly being delayed. Again all copying and pasting from Bleeding Cool.

One question, would you prefer them to rush the release and cock up the film?

This project is huge and it needs time.

Jeez.
HelaGood
HelaGood - 11/5/2010, 9:19 AM
i confirm JaySchluffy 's comment

better they take their time and do it right. no one should be worried.
hescian
hescian - 11/5/2010, 9:24 AM
I would agree with Ron.
The Incredible Hulk was only a moderate success at the box office, and the Iron Man movies were more of a success due to RDJ's performance, than because it was about Iron Man. Although no fan would like to think it, Thor and Cap America could end up being flops. They are both characters who are not well known to the general movie-going audience, so it's not a foregone conclusion that they will have Iron Man/Spiderman type box-office success.
Even though they are already doing pre-production on the Avengers movie, if Thor and Captain America don't huge revenue at the box office, the reality is that they will kill the Avengers movie.
screams
screams - 11/5/2010, 9:32 AM
If delaying it makes the movie better I'm supporting that decision... but if it's just because they are trying to make a little bit more money then I don't see why they should delay it any longer and I agree with you.

I'm inclined to think the former, but I like the perspective of your article. It's difficult to see what the big heads are actually thinking.
MAXQ1961
MAXQ1961 - 11/5/2010, 9:38 AM
any truth to this all the blame may be Disney's doing, maybe they are skeptical about Thor and possibly early rushes on Captain America being as big as they want them to be competing with Green Lantern and Transformers in the same summer is making them tighten the money belt for the Avengers. Plus competition with X-MEN First Class and the next year for Spider-Man sort of against themselves makes an interesting dilemma. Eventually Marvel and Disney needs to get all Marvel characters under one production roof. I myself am looking forward to all these movies. The cast they have for the Avengers is a dream cast of quality actors. Dig deep Disney and make this work, you lose any of these actors you may lose ever getting a cast like this again and you may lose the opportunity to gat all characters under one roof
marvelsnkcapcom10
marvelsnkcapcom10 - 11/5/2010, 9:38 AM
I believe Marvel Studios will do the fans justice. Yes they have made some mistakes(casting, delaying etc) but by making the Avengers they are making a step in the right direction. Some of the problems can be handled but wonderfully noted that from a business point of view, it is a totally different arena. The box office only cares for numbers, thats it. They arent interested in re-cast etc. So there are many variables they will have to overcome to continue to stay on top and they will not because they have to because they choose to.
Shaman
Shaman - 11/5/2010, 9:40 AM
hescian- I entirely agree with your comment. Thing is, even though we may hope Hemsworth and Evans pull off RDJr type performances, neither of those two characters are in the same league of charisma as Tony Stark is, which played a HUGE role in getting butts in the seats. RDJ got lucky in landing that role and Marvel got lucky that RDJ played it so well. I hope Thor will be recieved by the general audience as well as 300 was and i also hope that Cap gets recieved as well as the Bond movies have. This is what Marvel needs in order to build an unshakable foundation for Avengers.
partyhands
partyhands - 11/5/2010, 9:41 AM
Alex Ross need to learn how to draw another mans face other then the one up top x3. Also,news?
CENSORSHIPSUCKS
CENSORSHIPSUCKS - 11/5/2010, 9:47 AM
I love this site. That said, I'm not worried about The Avengers. Look, they are still filming Captain America, and reshooting some scenes in regards to Thor. Best to get those in the can and have all players available before they begin The Avengers. Heck, it might even help to see the finished products of Thor and Capt. America before filming Avengers. Maybe the personnas that come out in the movies are different from the script and they will want to adjust and so on. I think they know what they are doing.
JaySchluffy
JaySchluffy - 11/5/2010, 10:10 AM
I havent got a single problem with it being delayed. If it was pushed forward by 6 months- a year THEN IDE BE REALLY WORRIED.

You can never have too much time to finish a film.
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