EDITORIAL: Scott Adkins for Batman

EDITORIAL: Scott Adkins for Batman

Is Scott Adkins the actor we need for the Batman we deserve? Find out after the click.

Editorial Opinion
By jaycr - Jul 24, 2013 12:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: IMDB Scott Adkins

Greetings Fellow CBM Readers,

After the announcement of the upcoming Superman/Batman movie at the San Diego Comic-Con few days ago, several articles about who can take on the iconic role of Batman after Christian Bale began to pop up at the website and all over the Internet.

As many of you I thought of actors that can do justice to Bruce Wayne like John Hamm and Matt Bomer, however a genius casting suggested by a good friend changed my mind and I began to see in this relatively unknown british actor the potencial to take Batman to the next level, and for this reason, I am writing this article to share with you my reasons to believe that Scott Adkins is perfect for Batman.



Who is Scott Adkins?

Adkins is an skilled martial artist that is making a name for himself in Hollywood in several movies. His best and best known role is Yuri Boyka y in the 2nd and 3rd installments of the Undisputed Trilogy (2006 and 2010). He was part of the all star ensamble of The Expendables 2 (2012) as Hector and had small roles in movies like Unleashed (2005) The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) and X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) as Ryan Reynolds double and stunt man in the role of Weapon XI /Deadpool / Wade Wilson.

Scott Adkins was born in Sutton Coldfield, England, on June 17th, 1976. He began taking Judo lessons when he was 10. At 14, after being muggled in a bus, he began training Tae Kwon Do under the instruction of Ron Sergiew. Then he moved to Kickboxing under Anthony Jones. He also mastered the chinese martial art of Wushu and japanese JiuJitsu. He combined all this training with Weight lifting and Gymnastics.

He is a A self confessed "film junkie" and his idols were action and martial arts icons like Bruce Lee and Jean-Claude Van Damme. He enrolled in a drama class at Sutton Coldfield College and was offered a place at the prestigious Webber Douglas Academy of Dramatic Art, but he dropped out due to financial issues. His debut in a feature film came in 2001 when he
joined the Hong Kong production Dei seung chui keung (2001)(aka Extreme Challenge.He impressed several directors in Hong Kong including Woo-ping Yuen, Corey Yuen, Sammo Hung Kam-Bo and the legendary Jackie Chan. Before Hong Kong, Adkins worked in small roles for several British Television shows.

You can read his official biography in more detail at his IMDB Profile.



Why is Atkings perfect for the role?

First, he looks the part. I see that several people are suggesting blonde, baby face actors like Armie Hammer and Ryan Gosling for the role. Bruce Wayne is not blonde and he is as manly as a man can be. Bruce and Batman must be intense and have a huge presence. The kind of guy that earns your respect and admiration as soon as he walks through the door and I think that Adkins has that quality. A guy that has worked his body to the limit, that has traveled and endured several physical and mental tests to achieve the skills he has can understand Batman better than a good looking actor with a personal trainer.

He is an amazing fighter. Check this video about his fighting scenes at Undisputed 2 and 3...



He works hard to stay in perfect condition...



He can do amazing things, check this video during a Martial Arts Seminar teaching the power of a side kick




After watching those videos I couldn't help to remember games like Arkham City. This guy under the direction of Zack Snyder can give us some of that mind blowing action that we see at Cartoons and Videogames. In the movies we haven't seen a Batman displaying his legendary fighting skills. He is too stiff and relies on his gadgets and other tricks to look good. I think that if the production team can work on a suit like the one Batman uses at the Arkham games and give an skilled man like Adkins enough range to move, we can see a Kick ass Batman.



What about his acting skills?

The main complain about Adkins is his acting. As many actors in the genre people consider him bad or mediocre compared to actors in dramatic roles. I think that this complain lacks any value when it comes to Batman. This is an action hero, not a drama queen. Batman in the comics is a cold person that avoids to show emotion as much as he can. He is not an easy going person that enjoys company... he can be a cocky bastard sometimes and his biggest flaws is how studborn and untrusting he is. An actor playing Batman must be intense, must have a deep and strong gaze and look calm and smart. I saw that in Yuri Boyka... he is a villian with a heart... this turns him into a hero in the 3rd movie of the trilogy. He can be a cocky, he can be scary and he can display leadership qualities too.

Many people would say that an action movie actor can't do a believable detective. Many fans wants this movie to show why Batman is the best dectective of the DC Universe. A friend of mine for example, believes that Benedict Cumberbatch can fill that role in a better way, due to his great work in the Sherlock Holmes TV series. I think that he is a great actor, but I can't see him as Bruce and actually he kindda looks like the Joker.

I think that the Detective side of Batman doesn't depend on the actor but on the screenplay and the director. If the story takes its time to create a good mystery and the writer is talented enough to resolve it in a surprising yet logical way, and the director is good enough to guide the actor through the whole process, we get a good Detective Story. David Fincher is an excellent example on how to take an actor and be able to channel the story through his character in a successful way. He can take the best from the people he works with. I think that Snyder needs to work on that, however he did a great job directing the cast of Watchmen and he is able to pull it off.



What about his relationship with Henry Cavill's Superman?

Atkins is a fighter turned into an actor and Cavill is an actor that shaped his body for the role. They represent Batman and Superman's dichotomy. Bruce is a skilled fighter that push his body to his limits in order to acomplish the mission. Superman is a demi god that spent his life learning to limit his powers to live like an ordinary man. As Zod told him in the movie, Superman is brawler, not an skilled fighter. Batman on the other hand knows how and where to hit when he is fighting. Henry and Scott can show those opossing fighting styles.

Plus Cavill has a nice guy charm and Atkings has that badass attitute, however both characters can relate to eachother due to the fact that they were shy and quiet kids with unusual childhoods.



Final thoughts

When I pay to watch a summer blockbuster I expect a funny and thrilling ride throught a visual spectacle that allows me to enjoy a good moment. I think that the upcoming Superman/Batman movie opens the opportunity to have an unforgetable experience at the cinema and I think that a talented and skilled actor like Adkings can bring a lot to this proyect.


He is not a well know actor in the United States, which is a good thing when you work an Iconic character as Batman.

He has the skills to do great action scenes and at the same time, with a good script and direction, he can improve his acting to do justice to Batman and add something great to his mythology.

Scott Adkins is for me the actor that we need for the Batman we deserve.

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Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/25/2013, 2:30 AM
Really, really, really stupid choice. The guy is a stuntman, if he would play a character that would be supporting. Sure he has the body, but not the acting.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/25/2013, 2:36 AM
What kind of acting do you need for Batman? This is not Shakespeare or Citizen Kane. Do you think that Superman/Batman is an Oscar winning movie or that it will be considered for the Palm D'Or at Cannes?

It's a summer blockbuster and the work of the actor is make the character appealing to the masses. After watching Undisputed, I believe that Scott deserves an opportunity.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/25/2013, 3:41 AM
@jaycr - Adkins can't act at all. It's like putting megan fox for ww. She looks nice, but when they open their mouths fishes are coming out.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/25/2013, 4:16 AM
Several Oscar Winning actors have done awful movies. Halle Berry, Cuba Gooding Jr, Sandra Bullock, George Cloney.Ok Let's say he is so terrible that he can't read 2 lines, as a Stuntman he can play Batman and do the Martial Arts choreographies, like he did for Ryan Reynolds in Wolverine Origins, and we get "the young Marlon Brando" to do all the dialogue and the Bruce Wayne parts.

I think that Christian Bale was far being the perfect Batman. His Batman voice was awful and compared to Heath Leadger, his Batman was weak and lacked the will and strenght of the Batman from the comics. So it´s not impossible for another actor to improve what hss been done with the character.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/25/2013, 7:27 AM
So, from this article and its comments, I can infer that: a) Summer blockbuster flicks are allowed to feature cringe-worthy performances from "actors" that have barely acted, as long as they're entertaining; b) A good script and direction can back up an "actor" that is so terrible he can't read 2 lines; c) Fine performances only belong to Shakespearean titles, Citizen Kane, and the likes; and d) There has never been a movie that makes use of this so-called "stuntmen" to do the martial art choreography parts before. Oh, and Batman doesn't have a complex, figuratively "drama queen" alter-ego either, apparently. :)

And people wonder why movies lately are going downhill.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/25/2013, 7:51 AM
This is EXACTLY why Christian Bale should reprise his role as Batman. The public already accepts him. Whoever tries to take up the role will likely 1) not be acceptable to a significant portion of the public 2) may not be able to act and 3) will be endlessly compared to all the bat(men) who have come before. All of those things are a distraction for the film.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/25/2013, 9:42 AM
@Jolt17 - I was about to say these, thank you
Osirisno6
Osirisno6 - 7/25/2013, 10:44 AM
jaycr you are my man... Scott Adkins could be the best Batman ever... Me and my pal have been talking about this guy being the Dark Knight for months... Unfortunately, I cant see that happening... If it would, I would go NUTS!
jaycr
jaycr - 7/25/2013, 11:16 AM
So according to you guys Bruce Lee wasn't an actor, he was just a stuntman.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/25/2013, 11:26 AM
@jaycr - Do you actually compare Bruce Lee to Adkins? Lee brought us a new way of filming and see martial arts. Adkins just jumps around. Yet again I have to use my Megan Fox example. It's like comparing Marilyn Monroe to Megan Fox or Micheal Bay to James Cameron. Those people(Lee, Monroe, Cameron) have a certain quality that these people(Adkins, Fox, Bay) won't achieve.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/25/2013, 11:39 AM
When Bruce Lee was around he was type casted as a stuntman. In the Green Hornet series he was supposed to be in a supporting role and only in Hong Kong he was able to get leading roles.

Jet Li, he has this movie called Danny The Dog that shows that he can combine dramatic parts with mind blowing martial arts choreographies.

I am trying to think outside the box. For me Batman is the ultimate action hero, why not have an skilled martial artist under the cowl?
Dumegg
Dumegg - 7/25/2013, 12:05 PM
guys, Bruce Lee was never a good actor either.
I've seen most of his movies. He couldnt act, but
He kick major ass so we looked past it.
Im not saying this guys the answer either. I'd like
To see a guy who can act too and i dont want
Some baby faced kid wearing the cowl.
Dumegg
Dumegg - 7/25/2013, 12:09 PM
... And being some skilled matial artist doesnt mean crap.
Thats what stunt coordinater is for. They dont shoot the
Fight sequence in one take. They do takes and with
Differnt camera angles. One punch or kick at a time
So it looks good on camera.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/25/2013, 8:16 PM
Let me add these into the list: e) What matters the most from the character of Batman is his fighting skills, thus it is fine to make his return to the silver screen a brash action-based flick like The Expendables, than anything else; f) If another martial art-heavy actor did fine in a movie, that means every other martial art-heavy actor will also always work; g) You can throw in seemingly unrelated points to "support" your argument; and h) I can pick Shia LaBeouf for Bruce Wayne, and it will automatically be a good idea, because that's thinking outside the box.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/25/2013, 10:51 PM
@Jolt17 e) Batman is one of the best fighters in the DC Universe, he is a skilled martial artist. This part of what the character is. f) We never had a martial artist in the role, we had average good looking actors and and even a comedian playing Batman, if you have a better option than Adkins, share it please. g) I am trying to build a case in favor a of actors like Adkins...I believe that people like you underestimate the importance of the physical part of the Batman character, not only for the aparience but also in the way he fights. People overrates acting, how many actors began as wrestlers, models, singers? As a matter of fact how many actors have taken acting as a carreer and graduate from college? Batman' s voice, Kevin Conroy, graduated from Juliard, a prestigious acting school. How many movies have you seen with him in the leading role outside animation? h) Actually according to people like you, Shia just need to hire a personal trainer and gain muscle to get these roles. He was in Wall Street 2, he can be Bruce Wayne... he is an actor. I don't like him, many people don't like him, that didn't stop him from being in Indy 4, he is doing a movie with one of the best European directors, Lars Von Trier, so casting Shia is not so outside the box, if you want someone with the acting chops.
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Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/26/2013, 12:15 AM
@jaycr - Hey do you know what the biggest and most important part of Batman? HIS DETECTIVE SKILLS! The best Batman was Beetlejuice for a reason. HE CAN ACT! You can't make a nurse into a doctor when she doesn't have the knowledge or the skills. First she/he needs to start make good things. When Adkins can start make 1 good movie then, he must make a second good movie then you might consider him. Also, 4/5 of wrestlers, models, singers sucks. Not a good example. Also, something that I'm sure is hard to understand; NOT ALL GOOD ACTORS CAN PLAY ALL THE ROLES! Batman always was about the great plot, dialogue and performence. I'm sure Adkins is fun to watch on tv, and that's where he should stay.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/26/2013, 12:39 AM
I agree with you on the detective part, however for me 3/4 of that depend on the screenplay and the director. I recently watched Batman and the only detective part that I remember was about finding out that the Joker was using daily products to kill people.

I love that you mention that actors usually pick certain roles, their comfort zone. No actor can play every possible character. I agree. If you want a movie of Batman vs Superman, I believe that we need an actor that can display physical prowess.

My dream is to have an adaptation of The Long Halloween directed by David Fincher.An R rated thriller about a psychopath that is on a killing spree targeting the powerful families that rule the Gotham underworld. I would discard Adkins for this part... Bennedit Cumberbatch is the only guy I could think of right now for that role in a serious dark Batman movie that is very unlikely to happen.
bigstu62
bigstu62 - 7/26/2013, 1:57 AM
I agree 100% as I've said many times on different posts-'Jon Hamm if you want an older Bruce Wayne and Wes Bently if you want a younger one but Scott Adkins if you want one that can fight and kick @$$.'
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/26/2013, 2:29 AM
@jaycr - You are mistaken. True the movies are depend mainly on the screenplay and the director, but there must be a certain acting skills to be accepted.

Display physical prowess can always be done by a great stunt man, like Adkins.

That would be entertaining and really nice for tv. Unfortunatly a R rated movie for the big screen is impossible because they will try to make it cheesy like Marvel. Adkins as Batman for tv would be nice.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/26/2013, 4:15 AM
jaycr: e) Is it his most essential part? Your whole point revolves around the notion that fighting skills are what defines him best, and the only requirement to cast the character, which is just like saying Superman should be played by a bodybuilder so that he can lift heavy objects himself, or Captain America should also be portrayed by an athlete. f) Really? "Instead of having any martial artist in the role of a superhero, we've just been getting actors, and actors, and actors!" Is that what you're complaining about? g) "Overrates acting." Jesus Christ. Here's the thing: Actors can be trained martial arts, et cetera, but martial artists filling in for big movie roles is just a risky bet. What does it have to do with Kevin Conroy, anyway, except for proving that you can't string a coherent argument? Yes, he went to the same acting school as Christopher Reeve's, and he ended up successful in the voice acting career, which, contrary to popular belief, requires a lot more than just being able to read scripts. h) Um, I'll just quote this one from Wikipedia: "Thinking outside the box is a metaphor that means to think differently, unconventionally, or from a new perspective." So firstly, you don't seem to even get what that term actually means, and secondly, you clearly don't speak sarcasm. But anyway, you're correct on the part that actors can hire personal trainers to build their body, if that is required...wait, don't tell me that you never know that a lot of actors always do that!

Just in case you haven't noticed, none of your points have something to do with the arguments I brought up, either.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/26/2013, 4:19 AM
Actually, looking back at your arguments...

"Ok Let's say he is so terrible that he can't read 2 lines, as a Stuntman he can play Batman and do the Martial Arts choreographies, like he did for Ryan Reynolds in Wolverine Origins, and we get "the young Marlon Brando" to do all the dialogue and the Bruce Wayne parts."

Congratulations, you've successfully defined what a stuntman is supposed to do, and that we still need actors to portray the character, thus obliterating your own stance. :)
jaycr
jaycr - 7/26/2013, 9:42 AM
Jolt17, you are dismissing Adkins as a just a stuntman, he already had acted in several movies, including a leading role. You can't see my point, I was trying to define what being an actor is... people like Arnold schwarzenegger, Jean Claude Van Dame and Dwayne The Rock Jonhson are actors and they had successful careers in action movies and tried other genres like family friendly comedies. Why Adkins can't do the same?

A movie with the title Batman vs Superman is an action movie. We are talking that the main focus of the movie is a fight, specially with Snyder saying that he is taking inspiration from the Dark Knight Returns. However, if Adkins can't deliver as an actor for this role, at least let him be part of the project as the action double for Batman.

One of reasons Batman has been so successful for a long time is that he can handle different interpretations. Detective, Martial Artist, Rebel, Anti Hero and even Villian... why we can't explore his martial artist side in a movie?
jaycr
jaycr - 7/26/2013, 10:05 AM
Btw, You have to be retarded to be unable to play Batman: looking at computer screen, talking to Alfred and Lucius, being a playboy as Bruce Wayne and throw one liners while in the suit. Batman is one of the few characters that allows a limited range of emotion, the man is almost a machine. I think that the harder part of the role is achieving the right Batman voice.

I think that characters like Spiderman or Deadpool are more demanding because the require the actors to funny while playing their action scenes.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/26/2013, 10:07 AM
Arnold schwarzenegger, Jean Claude Van Dame and Dwayne The Rock Jonhson took years to start making good movies. Adkins is 37 and no good movies under his name. He hasn't even try diffenrent type of movies or roles. Even if he make one good movie that doesn't necessary means he can act. For example Arnold schwarzenegger best role was a non-talking. Since than he had only couple of good performances.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/26/2013, 11:02 AM
jaycr:

"...you are dismissing Adkins as a just a stuntman, he already had acted in several movies, including a leading role."

So starring in lead roles, in several direct-to-video movies, classifies him as a worthy candidate for one of the biggest superhero roles in the world. Yep.

"You can't see my point, I was trying to define what being an actor is..."

I can't see your point, because there's nothing to be seen, as you hardly even defined what being an actor is, as you intended to.

"...people like Arnold schwarzenegger, Jean Claude Van Dame and Dwayne The Rock Jonhson are actors and they had successful careers in action movies and tried other genres like family friendly comedies. Why Adkins can't do the same?"

Well, try looking at those examples you brought up above, and has any of them ever been regarded as anything more than an action star; something more than, "He's a sub-par actor, but he's got this distinctiveness in his action charm that we can enjoy,"? That's what they're respected as, that's what they're successful at, and for all that I know, I don't mind Adkins reaching that level, too, but that standard isn't just for Batman. Funny, that you say I couldn't see your point, when you can't grasp my stance that Batman isn't just an action subject, either.

So, why can't Adkins do the same? Well, I'm sorry to say this, but he's tried and, to put it bluntly, "failed." Those direct-to-video movies he's starred in, do you think all those are intentional? Most DTV flicks fall into that category, because their quality is considered to belong only to there, and can't quite reach up to be anything higher. Whatever the true cause is, Adkins have already been "stuck" on that level, and it's not all that easy to gain a breakthrough, from that point.

"A movie with the title Batman vs Superman is an action movie."

I'm feeling like quitting, upon seeing THAT as your stance, but...

"We are talking that the main focus of the movie is a fight, specially with Snyder saying that he is taking inspiration from the Dark Knight Returns."

Have you even ever read The Dark Knight Returns? A complex, rich narrative piece, and its main focus is its "fight"? Great job.

"However, if Adkins can't deliver as an actor for this role, at least let him be part of the project as the action double for Batman."

Oh my God, thank you for once again defining the work of a stuntman - I've underlined it, in case you're still missing it - and negating your own whole point for the second time.

"One of reasons Batman has been so successful for a long time is that he can handle different interpretations. Detective, Martial Artist, Rebel, Anti Hero and even Villian... why we can't explore his martial artist side in a movie?"

A good chunk of Batman Begins showcases Bruce training at a Tibetian headquarter of a ninja clan, for Christ's sake, and even sees him fighting with a well-formed jiu jitsu style throughout the whole movie. That's not enough exposure of his martial artist side, you say? So how has his complexity as a character been explored enough, on the other hand? Which of Batman's previous movie has shown enough of his detective aspect? Of all the other lacking aspects of the character that are yet to be delved into, you're asking for more of the character's martial arts side which, for all that we know, were already there, just didn't quite live up to whatever high expectation you have?
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 7/26/2013, 11:15 AM
So, it seems that throwing one-liners - especially when you're in the character of a gloom, dark guy in a bat costume - is not a problem at all, even though it's evidently one of the biggest causes of stereotypical action characters going downhill...oh, and at least half of this planet's population is retarded! What's next; everyone is retarded, for not being able to act as a clumsy, socially-awkward reporter? My God, if this guy isn't the most brilliant movie expert, of all; and one with a [frick]ing low standard of characterization, too. :)

Seriously, I'd like to see you proving yourself that you're not one of those retards.
AC1
AC1 - 7/26/2013, 12:38 PM
Actually, Batman does require someone who can act. At the very least, the actor would need to act well as Bruce Wayne. Batman is one of the most complex, interesting characters in mainstream comics and requires a talented actor to portray him correctly. There's a lot more to Batman than 'dark and quiet'.

He's stubborn, secretive, angry yet restrained, intelligent, obsessed, protective, un-trusting, he has abandonment issues, he's teetering on the line of going completely insane, yet he also has the weight of an entire city on his very human shoulders, plus he has to also completely change his personality in the public-eye as Bruce Wayne, where he portrays himself as a rich, intelligent yet arrogant, womanizing party animal. There's a lot more to him as well, but there's no point in continuing.

Batman isn't just some 'action' character. He's interesting, rich and complex. There's a reason he's one of the most popular characters in all superhero films, and it's not the costume or the fighting.
jaycr
jaycr - 7/26/2013, 6:42 PM
I've seen Adkins at some movies and I had a great time. In the end this is a fan casting.

I see that WB is going for a fresh face, probable some pretty boy with a career in Television. Let's hope that Snyder can cast a great actor for the role as he did in Man of Steel.

The funny thing about castings is that sometimes we get surprises. When Burton hired Michael Keaton for Batman, people complained... when Nolan hired Heath Ledger for the joker people also complained. You don't know how good an actor is for the role until he reads the lines. The key for a great casting is to have the ability to look beyond the appearance and see the character within that actor.

When I see Adkins showing his skills I remember all those great action scenes from the comic books and the cartoons. We had some good Batman movies, but there's room for improvement and new interpretations. All I can say is why not?

robometrallador
robometrallador - 7/29/2013, 11:22 AM
bruce wayne transpires more class, hes from the elite of the world, he has to have a prince´s face and a illegal muay thai fighter´s body, which your guy has, just the face
superotherside
superotherside - 8/3/2013, 9:18 PM
Why do people think he's a bad actor? He was great in Ninja. Sadly few have seen it.
miggyman24
miggyman24 - 8/5/2013, 4:24 PM
his a good actor i dont know were people get it from, afew people just wanna see crap top actors get the part like georges clooney or ryan gosing, i can say is dont be stupid, scott adkins should play batman he'll a good fit for bruce wayne and his a badass like batman his perfect. his a step from bale action wise and he can act very what half of u are so stupid u can not see a good thing then u see it, and better the one say that ait watched scott adkins in action u see his films before uleave commets seriously its a no brainer scott adkins would be brillant as the dark knight.
miggyman24
miggyman24 - 8/5/2013, 5:30 PM
scott adkins has been high drama programmes on the bbc like idris else and benedict cumberbatch and henry cavil without the flykicks look it up people, his not à stuntman his actor the stunts are a added bonus
armesin
armesin - 8/12/2013, 8:57 AM
These guy Adkins can kick ass he got the look of Bruce Wayne already... WB can help him with his acting.. Just give hime the suit from Batman arkham game without the undies and were all set...

Support!!
#AdkinsforBatman
WallyChitoKanor
WallyChitoKanor - 9/22/2013, 1:55 AM
Guys, check your spelling before you post something :-)
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