The Answer To Where The Joker Was In THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Revealed?

The Answer To Where The Joker Was In THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Revealed?

Christopher Nolan has made it clear that he had no intentions of mentioning The Joker in The Dark Knight Rises as a sign of respect to the late Heath Ledger, but an excerpt from Greg Cox's novelization of the film may just reveal where he was during the events of the threequel.

By JoshWilding - Jul 25, 2012 06:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: Nuke The Fridge

While there were rumours that Heath Ledger's Joker would make a cameo (perhaps using unused footage from The Dark Knight) in The Dark Knight Rises, it accounted to nothing more than talk and Christopher Nolan said on numerous occasions before the release of the film that he wouldn't even mention the villain as a sign of respect to the actor. Nuke The Fridge have posted the following excerpt from Greg Cox's novelization of the film, perhaps shedding some insight into why the villain wasn't one of those who was seen escaping from Blackgate.


Now that the Dent Act had made it all but impossible for the city’s criminals to cop an insanity plea, it (Blackgate Prison) had replaced Arkham Asylum as a preferred location for imprisoning both convicted and suspected felons. The worst of the worst were sent here, except for the Joker, who, rumor had it, was locked away as Arkham’s sole remaining inmate. Or perhaps he had escaped. Nobody was really sure. Not even Selina.


Whether this is based on details which were included in Christopher Nolan's original screenplay isn't known, although it really does make you think about what might have been. Had Ledger not died when he did, imagine a scene in the film featuring Batman visiting The Joker in Arkham Asylum to discuss Bane's attack on Gotham. In fact, it's hard to imagine The Dark Knight Rises not being a completely different film! Regardless, at least this offers some resolution as to where The Joker was during the events of the finale to Nolan's trilogy.






Warner Bros. Pictures’ and Legendary Pictures’ "The Dark Knight Rises" is the epic conclusion to filmmaker Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy. The screenplay is written by Christopher Nolan and Jonathan Nolan, story by Christopher Nolan & David S. Goyer. The film is produced by Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Charles Roven, who previously teamed on “Batman Begins” and the record-breaking blockbuster "The Dark Knight." The executive producers are Benjamin Melniker, Michael E. Uslan, Kevin De La Noy and Thomas Tull, with Jordan Goldberg serving as co-producer. The film is based upon characters appearing in comic books published by DC Comics. Batman was created by Bob Kane.


STARRING:

Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman
Michael Caine as Alfred
Gary Oldman as Commissioner Jim Gordon
Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox
Tom Hardy as Bane
Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman
Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake
Marion Cotillard as Miranda Tate
Josh Pence as Ra's Al Ghul

RELEASE DATE: July 20th, 2012


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Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 7/25/2012, 6:47 PM
interesting, and hey it makes sense, i just hope he did escape
CapFanLex005
CapFanLex005 - 7/25/2012, 6:48 PM
I wish they had done something with him but this sounds reasonable
Minotauro
Minotauro - 7/25/2012, 6:48 PM
hmmmmm...
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 7/25/2012, 6:49 PM
wish they would have just said this in the movie though
NerdyGeek
NerdyGeek - 7/25/2012, 6:52 PM
Tony93
Tony93 - 7/25/2012, 6:57 PM
If Heath was alive we would have had a whole entirely different approach for a 3rd film...

RIP Heath
chikeizelcav
chikeizelcav - 7/25/2012, 6:58 PM
Sick photo sequence
TheBatman23ac
TheBatman23ac - 7/25/2012, 6:59 PM
Best joker ever
eleven59
eleven59 - 7/25/2012, 7:00 PM
He's alone in arkham, awaiting a new influx of insane to be admitted so that he can close it up and rule from within.. ;)
JatevinM
JatevinM - 7/25/2012, 7:00 PM
I think one of the biggest ways that Ledgers memory and performance could have been honored would have been if The Joker was given one final hurrah through unused Dark Knight footage as a true ending to his character.
BatSlam
BatSlam - 7/25/2012, 7:01 PM
that is my biggetst problem with dark knight rises is that i think it sullies the amazing job ledger did as the joker. I say this because the movie was set 7 years after, if the movie came only a year after the dark knight then it would of been fine. What i mean is at the end of tdk joker says to batman " I believe we were meant to do this for the rest of our lives" WHen i heard that, i thought wow what a great thing to have in the movie seeing as it is almost an underlined theme in the comics with the joker and batman. Meaning would one still exist with out the other, they are almost destined to be opposing forces.

Now in the new movie, batman has been retired for 7 years and gotham has been pretty much relieved of crime (another basic problem i have because both of those concepts are so un batman like). THis means that the joker has just been locked up with no problems for 7 years, its just such a disappointment to me after that amazing line in tdk.
lunesta
lunesta - 7/25/2012, 7:01 PM
starscream9289 that is so truth
eleven59
eleven59 - 7/25/2012, 7:01 PM
It is kind of crazy that in both batman movie worlds we've only gotten the freaking joker once each time!!
brewtownpsych
brewtownpsych - 7/25/2012, 7:02 PM
Whether he is in the movie or not is irrelevant. The Dark KNight Rises is more of a direct sequel to The Dark Knight than Batman Begins in my view, at least thematically. Read more in my review here:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=64536


DrainBamage
DrainBamage - 7/25/2012, 7:02 PM
I don't know why everyone is so hung up on where the Joker was. I don't think it would have changed the story all that much. I probably could have imagined him as the judge, but Scarecrow worked just as well.
RamonSuarez
RamonSuarez - 7/25/2012, 7:03 PM
I applaud Nolan for not going back to the Joker.

His arch had run its course in the universe he created.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 7/25/2012, 7:06 PM
Sounds like something the author sloppily threw in there. Pretty weal explanation. I'm sure fine was the ne person left in Arkham people would know about. Even to suggest that all the criminals were moved to Blackgate is weak to honestly. If this helps some people feel better about not him nt being mentioned in the movie, then all the power to ya.
MaestroMiller
MaestroMiller - 7/25/2012, 7:06 PM


BANE IS BAD! I like the storyboard.
Niuhll
Niuhll - 7/25/2012, 7:07 PM
I like this idea, the one i was hoping for in the film would be a break in or Arkham, similar to that of Blackgate in the film, where all the prisoners get released.

All the doors being slid open, Crane comes out of one, Zsasz another etc then they get to a door, maybe with 'Joker' on it, or maybe just a number and something down the line of two goons infront of the door "Nah, let him rot, i was on that boat he tried to sink"

He's too extreme to let loose sort of thing, Bane, while giving away all of the control would still want to control the deck, no wild cards.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 7/25/2012, 7:07 PM
Shoulda recast. It would have been worth it...


I dunno, after Colorado I feel like i need to take a shower after saying that. Rip victims.
MrSundayMovies
MrSundayMovies - 7/25/2012, 7:10 PM
I thought he would have filled the Scarecrow/Judge role really well. That would have been an amazing cameo.
avengersftw
avengersftw - 7/25/2012, 7:10 PM
Irish avenger@ is that real
GoILL
GoILL - 7/25/2012, 7:11 PM
@IrishAvenger that's some funny shit man

@starscream9289 so true man makes you wonder what coud've been.
Niuhll
Niuhll - 7/25/2012, 7:13 PM
When i say giving away Control and keeping it i mean, he wanted Batman out of the way so nobody could stop him, why would he want Joker who could just as easily undermind it?

They'd both want to control it, neither would want to be second.
YOUNGBL00D
YOUNGBL00D - 7/25/2012, 7:14 PM
@theirishavenger that would be [frick]ing sick
Shades
Shades - 7/25/2012, 7:14 PM
Interesting....
Mitchman710
Mitchman710 - 7/25/2012, 7:17 PM
He was Matthew Modine who played Joker in Full Metal Jacket. Duh?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/25/2012, 7:22 PM
Before Ledger died, Nolan had an entirely different idea of what to do with the third film. It was going to involve Joker to some extent, just probably not the main villain. But Ledger's death forced Nolan to come jp with something different. Thats why it took so long for him to even confirm he was making a third one. Remember that long wait when every day we were all just hoping Nolan would give confirmation? Seemed like forever.
Intothepoop
Intothepoop - 7/25/2012, 7:26 PM
i kinda like the idea that the joker is just out there.
Gman20
Gman20 - 7/25/2012, 7:28 PM
@intruder

Isn't kinda dumb when that one guy is the joker
MrReese
MrReese - 7/25/2012, 7:29 PM
@Chloefornication completely agree! even if he would have sided with Bane (which he wouldn't have) he would have [frick]ed him over in the end.I really doubt he would have let Bane kill Bats seeing as how it would stop his "fun".Or even destroy Gotham (his "playground") for that matter.
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