THE BATMAN - PART II Director Matt Reeves Shares Big Update On Sequel; Says Batman Could Eventually Come To TV

THE BATMAN - PART II Director Matt Reeves Shares Big Update On Sequel; Says Batman Could Eventually Come To TV

Filmmaker Matt Reeves has shared a huge update on where things stand with The Batman - Part II and opened up on the TV shows that didn't happen and whether we'll eventually see Batman on the small screen.

By JoshWilding - Sep 20, 2024 03:09 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman
Source: Entertainment Weekly

Despite the launch of DC Studios and the new DCU, Matt Reeves is seemingly proceeding with "The Batman Epic Crime Saga" as planned. 

The Penguin premiered to rave reviews on HBO yesterday evening, while The Batman - Part II is just a couple of years away. Talking to Entertainment Weekly, the writer and director started by addressing the franchise's expansion from theaters to television. 

"I always wanted to make sure that each of the movies that we did with Rob, that the central arc, the emotional arc of the story would be Batman and Bruce's," he explained. "Then when I was talking to Warner Bros. about signing for TV, I said what will be exciting to me is to take characters [where] there's not enough real estate in a movie to cover their story in full and to really dig into them."

"I want it to all be this sweeping Batman crime epic," Reeves added. "In the process of figuring out what something is, it evolves. When I was describing what it was that we wanted to do, I think [HBO CEO] Casey [Bloys] didn't want us to be too protective of the marquee characters, as if we were only going to do those in the movies. I got it right at that moment." 

One project that seemingly evolved at least a couple of times was a series set in the GCPD revolving around a corrupt cop. We later heard it had ties to Arkham Asylum before it became a show set entirely in the institution the likes of The Joker and The Riddler call home. 

"The things that we're talking about [now] are evolved versions of those things," Reeves acknowledged. "It's not like that just didn't work. It was like, we need to evolve this. I would describe it less as something that didn't work out and more as something that is still along a path toward arriving at its destination."

Reiterating that Batman doesn't appear in The Penguin, the filmmaker did admit that it's possible we'll see Robert Pattinson's Dark Knight on the small screen somewhere down the line. 

"That's not to say that there would never be an appearance by Batman or Bruce or something like that [on a future series]," he noted. "Lauren and I did speak: Do we want to find a way to get Rob to somehow be in this show? But that was an afterthought."

As for where things stand with The Batman - Part II, Reeves confirmed the script is finished and that production begins next year. 

"Oz does become one of the entry points into the movie. I can't tell you where it goes from there, except to say that we're super excited about it," he teased. 

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AllsGood
AllsGood - 9/20/2024, 3:09 PM
The first Batman was Boring as Hell. Never watched it a second time.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 9/20/2024, 3:13 PM
@AllsGood -

I enjoyed it, but I get where you’re coming from. Zoe as Catwoman was a disappointment as she didn’t have the same screen presence as Michelle, or to a lesser degree, Anne.
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 9/20/2024, 3:21 PM
@AllsGood -

i thought the depiction of the mythos was compelling but i don't blame anyone who thought it was too meandering.

while i appreciate greatly that Reeves treated Batman as a real character and gave him an emotional arc, he didn't do nearly eniugh of that with anyone else and the film suffers for it.

my biggest gripe (among a few) to this day is how he treated the Batman/Gordon dynamic. this cop risks his entire reputation on trusting a masked vigilante and we never get to see why. we're just supposed to accept it because it's Gordon, but i think that was misguided.

the writing of the relationship dynamics was kinda weak all around.
The1st
The1st - 9/20/2024, 5:10 PM
@AllsGood - Mostly, I'm just tired of origins being required for the trilogy format. I'm interested more in what happens with Brave and the Bold.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/20/2024, 7:54 PM
@AllsGood - 🧢🎓
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/20/2024, 3:15 PM
I'd be perfectly fine with that as I'm loving Reeves take on Batman, and would hate to see it fade away after a few films if it does get a trilogy.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2024, 3:16 PM
I like the idea of the movies really focusing on this Bruce/Batman’s arc & journey while the supporting characters & antagonists are maybe given shows to further flesh them out…

However I don’t think given this stylized yet still grounded take on the character & world that many characters could be interesting enough on their own to do a series for.

I do hope we get a Selina Kyle/Catwoman one though , that seems ripe for a spin-off and I’m surprised it hasn’t already been announced given her leaving Gotham at the end of the first one..

It could be a cool heist show or something.

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/20/2024, 3:21 PM
I haven't seen an 'Elseworlds' label on any of the Penguin stuff yet.

Do we think Reeves (or Gunn) has changed his mind about this being the official canon Batman?
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 9/21/2024, 2:27 PM
@ObserverIO - Definitely not. If you throw him in the same universe as like a Superman, it removes the stakes of going up against non-powered characters like Penguin.

If Batman struggles with a normal mobster then he's useless against alien monsters, and if he can take on alien monsters the Penguin is not so threatening.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/21/2024, 4:12 PM
@UncleHarm1 - So comics Batman is shit then?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/21/2024, 4:20 PM
I mean Hawkeye took down aliens but was still fighting mobsters in his TV series. It's really not that big of a deal. Some days it's aliens, some days it's serial killers.

A parademon is hard to fight but easy to find. A serial killer isn't.

Also Penguin isn't very formidable. He doesn't pose much of a physical threat to Pattinson's Batman anyway. This guys already taken down terrorists with guns. Penguin poses no threat. The stakes of going up against Penguin are already removed. Physically.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 9/21/2024, 6:17 PM
@ObserverIO - Comics Batman is better, but Hollywood hates fun. No I'm just saying for the universe established it wouldn't really work unless he was a different Batman played by the same guy
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/22/2024, 4:09 AM
@UncleHarm1 - I would totally be down for Pattinson to play both variants of Batman in two universes.

But in terms of the comics, Year One establishes a very grounded and gritty take on Batman, but then the same version of Batman is later taking down Darkseid and saving the multiverse. And then he returns to Gotham to take down gangsters and serial killers and such. A universe can start small and grounded (like Iron Man) and grow to become a fantasy/sci-fi (Endgame) and then still tell grounded tales afterwards (Daredevil Born Again).
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 9/22/2024, 11:27 AM
@ObserverIO - Let's hope whoever is making the next spiderman movie agrees with you, I would love to see it
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 9/20/2024, 3:23 PM
The movie was okay.

It wasn't really a detective skills take on Batman, as he needed help from Joker and didn't show too much intelligence.

But it was long and the chase scene were Batman probably killed a dozen other car-drivers was out of character.

I World watch IT another time, but IT is the worst of the first Batman movies i watched in my lifetime.
Burton and Nolan die it much better.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 9/20/2024, 3:35 PM
Ferrell was the best part of The Batman.......Bruce was a pretty shitty detective to be The World's Greatest Detective
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/20/2024, 4:06 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Absolutely. The photos that showed up on the thumb drive were shot from ONE angle - the Riddler's apartment, the same place he later sniper-shoots Falcone from.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 9/20/2024, 10:11 PM
@ProfessorWhy - this is were I’ll give the animated Long Halloween some credit . Bruce in that film said Batman needs to be a detective too. Nice to see that he was flawed and needed to get better.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/20/2024, 3:56 PM
The trouble is we ALL know the histrionics of Batman. The suit, the gadgets, the car, the cave, the signal, the psychological damage, the violent physicality, the relationships with Alfred, Gordon - assorted crime characters, Catwoman etc.

Now he needs to bring something NEW to the party. And it needs to be in a tightly-scripted movie with a shorter running time and no flat third act.

Fingers crossed.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 9/20/2024, 6:49 PM
@BillyBatson1000 - There's a clear and blatant answer to this, but the general public isn't ready, lol.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/20/2024, 8:03 PM
@DalekCraigWasson -

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BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/21/2024, 6:46 AM
@DalekCraigWasson - hehehe.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 9/21/2024, 8:30 AM
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Pampero
Pampero - 9/20/2024, 4:04 PM
Nolan is still the best. Good try Matt Reeves
Nolanite
Nolanite - 9/20/2024, 4:41 PM
@Pampero - did you call my name?
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/20/2024, 4:13 PM
I am REALLY curious as the whether or not Batman will show up on the Penguin show...
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/20/2024, 4:17 PM
@TheFinestSmack - Schrödinger's Bat.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/21/2024, 1:47 PM
@TheFinestSmack - theyve already confirmed he doesn't.
NodrickStripson
NodrickStripson - 9/20/2024, 4:52 PM
I’m hoping that Reeves has set his tone with the first film and will just deliver a bit more action and a bit of a quick quicker pace in the follow-up.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2024, 4:56 PM
@NodrickStripson - I liked the slower pace noir style for the most part but that would be good too
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 9/20/2024, 7:21 PM
I appreciate Reeves' commitment. I'm still skeptical that WB wants two on-going Batman franchises. But it's not like the IP isn't popular enough. Maybe it could work, longterm.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/20/2024, 7:58 PM
Anyone who hates The Batman hates real film making. A “bit boring”.. sure. But everything about it was a masterclass in film making. Easily.

I bet everyone who hated it can only operate a digital camera on auto.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 9/21/2024, 5:07 AM
@TheNewYorker - nah the Batman is boring asf. And this is coming from the biggest Batman fan. I love every Batman movie except the Batman. I don’t hate the movie, I’ve given it credit where it’s due but it’s totally boring. Watched it twice and fell asleep. I prefer to watch Batman & Robin. Far more entertaining.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/21/2024, 1:50 PM
@TheNewYorker - style over substance with the car chase putting civilians in danger, same with the glass ceiling shattering entrance in final act over stadium...missed the mark there. Batman didn't come off like a great detective, quite the opposite and it didn't make sense why this guy was being allowed in crime scenes.....and if it did it was only because Gordon and his cops were literal morons. The script was what held it back from being truly great. Hopefully Reeves' co writer helps to fix this issue and we get a comic accurate Bruce who is the actual mask with a strategic, detective Batman. No showing up to the front door of clubs....
Leanbatt
Leanbatt - 9/20/2024, 8:03 PM
For everyone wondering if Batman will show up in the penguin show, remember that Batman was in his second year in the movie, and the penguin show is 5 years before the movie, so, basic math says no.
Bruce Wayne may appear, but Batman wasn’t born yet.
HerrmanM
HerrmanM - 9/20/2024, 11:52 PM
@Leanbatt - The show takes place immediately after the movie… Falcone is dead, the streets are flooded. Not sure what show you watched.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/21/2024, 12:05 AM
@HerrmanM - 🤣
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 9/21/2024, 1:32 AM
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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/21/2024, 3:57 AM
@HerrmanM - Gotham, lol.
HerrmanM
HerrmanM - 9/23/2024, 3:01 PM
@ObserverIO - lol
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