CIVIL WAR PREDICTIONS + WHO WILL DIE? | Average Heroes

CIVIL WAR PREDICTIONS + WHO WILL DIE?  | Average Heroes

CIVIL WAR COMES OUT TMO! We discuss what we think will happen, what we want to see, and who we think will die! Will anyone die? How will the new hero additions play out, and do you think trailers ruin the element of surprise? See what we have to say and join the discussion!

Editorial Opinion
By AverageHeroes - May 05, 2016 10:05 AM EST
Source: Average heroes Podcast
✪ Welcome to ISSUE #3 of The Average Heroes Podcast!

 
 
►In the final part of this podcast, we discuss everything CIVIL WAR. What we think will happen, what we want to see, and who we think will die! Will anyone die? How will the new hero additions play out, and do you think trailers ruin the element of surprise? See what we have to say and join the discussion! 
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SorceresSupreme
SorceresSupreme - 5/5/2016, 2:41 PM
Vision kills Hawkeye. Oops.
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 5/5/2016, 6:43 PM
Batman kills Dumbledore
SteveBosell
SteveBosell - 5/5/2016, 8:35 PM
No one dies because Marvel doesn't have the cajones.
CrappyNappy
CrappyNappy - 5/5/2016, 11:19 PM
@Marxman12 - And Superman dies and is shown to clearly come back in the same movie.

DC couldn't leave the film without basically telling the audience (Yeaaa he's not REALLY dead)
SteveBosell
SteveBosell - 5/6/2016, 10:19 AM
@CrappyNappy - Superman suffered a lot and he actually died in the film. That's more than anything Marvel has done. They make no-stakes movies.
CrappyNappy
CrappyNappy - 5/6/2016, 10:36 AM
@Marxman12 - Cap and Tony suffer a lot. Have you even seen Civil War?

No stakes? It's a fight to the death over the life of Cap's best friend! A friend Who Tony will kill if Steve doesn't stop him!

The biggest stakes in Civil War isn't world ending. It's extremely personal. You want Bucky to live because we've grown to understand him, and admire his and steve's friendship and camaraderie. But then...what he did to Tony's parents was monstrous. It was BRUTAL, seeing Howard and Maria die in such an gruesome way. So at the same time we feel for Tony's sense of injustice...not to mention that Cap actually LIED about what Bucky had done. He knew this whole time.

Tony has been forced to fight his allies. His best friend has been crippled. He's been through hell and yet...it was all to save a man who murdered his parents.

"You murdered my mother!"

The stakes are more personal than they EVER were in BvS. In BvS they used the generic "big evil bad guy going to destroy world" trope that every superhero/action film has nowadays. How is THAT a higher stake than watching two close friends become bitter enemies. To the point where they nearly kill one another.

At the end of that fight, Cap drops his shield and gives it up. He realizes that in saving Buck, he's done a great injustice to Tony. He's wronged him and he used the very shield that Howard created to basically "avenge" the very man who murdered him.

They both are aware of the crimes they done to one another. The team is split apart now, things have changed. Steve lets Tony know that should they ever be needed, they can go to him for help. Because after-all, despite all the petty and bitter feelings towards one another...they're still superhero's. Above all else they care about the safety and well-being of the world.

Also killing a character and then brining him back (or guaranteeing his return) is a fake "emotional" stake. They might as well have just used the classic Marvel studio's

"Superman will Return"

at the end of the credits. It was THAT obvious. My non-comicbook reading cousin, who's only superhero film watched was The Dark Knight Rises, said to me at the end of the movie

"So he didn't really die...right?"

So no. BvS and MoS isn't any different than what Marvel has done in the past. Both had "world ending" plots that resulted in the superhero winning in the end. Marvel generally follows the same pattern...EXCEPT with Civil War.


Civil War is a new age for the MCU, it's quite possibly a new age for the comicbook genre in general. It's an amazingly personal film, with stakes that the audience cares about.
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