EDITORIAL: How Captain America: The Winter Soldier Sets Up...The Amazing Spider-Man 2?

EDITORIAL: How Captain America: The Winter Soldier Sets Up...The Amazing Spider-Man 2?

Anyone who has seen Captain America: The Winter Soldier, know the big repercussions that have set up the Marvel Cinematic Universe going forward. But, with The Amazing Spider-Man 2 being owned by Sony and the assumption being he doesn't exist in the MCU, how could Captain America: The Winter Soldier set-up The Amazing Spider-Man 2? Hit the jump to hear my thoughts.

Editorial Opinion
By TheDarman - Apr 06, 2014 06:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Captain America
Source: Washington Post

So, this will probably paint a target on my head but I liked The Amazing Spider-Man. I used to really love it but after the novelty of it being a new Spider-Man film wore off, it was clear that the original Spider-Man is an overall better made film. It might be because of the obligation to try to something new but trying to find a reason other than "the company told us to" to exist. Either way, this isn't about that film.



A lot of people were asking the perfectly legitimate question (if you don't know about film rights), is the new The Amazing Spider-Man film a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. A lot of people's biggest complaint with this idea is that S.H.I.E.L.D. wasn't present at the end despite a huge issue going down. I would argue that everything happened way too fast for S.H.I.E.L.D. to possibly be involved. I, for one, understand the movie rights issues and understand we won't see Spider-Man in an Avengers film or vice versa. I would love to have references like the planned OsCorp Tower in The Avengers, but, honestly, that's all I really need. So, until explicitly told otherwise, I have tricked myself into seeing The Amazing Spider-Man as part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.



Fox and Marvel have clearly diverted paths over the issue with Quicksilver. I don't think anyone could trick themselves into believing the two take place in the same universe. Unless some of the same things happen with Marvel and Sony, like I think might happen with Spider-Woman, then there is no deliberate contradiction. I mean, the excessive amount of cranes in The Amazing Spider-Man climax, would even validate this theory to a certain point.



But, my whole idea seemed to go out the window with recent news, mostly with the trailers for The Amazing Spider-Man 2. You look at the trailers and see Electro (Jamie Foxx) literally BLOWING UP Times Square, you KNOW that S.H.I.E.L.D. would at least show up for a follow-up, particularly with Spider-Man. Or how about the fact that Spider-Man himself stated, in the final trailer, that "he is the only one who can stop them." That was totally a contradictory statement. I mean, sure, Iron Man retired, Thor went to wherever the ****, but Captain America and S.H.I.E.L.D. would still be around.



That's when, upset about the destruction of my personal trickery, I went to see Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Now, this, boys and girls, is where we officially enter into spoiler territory. Be warned!



S.H.I.E.L.D. ends up destroyed. Not only is S.H.I.E.L.D. destroyed, but Captain America goes into a form of hiding while he is investigating. That would eliminate the last two variables keeping the ability of deluding myself at bay. Now, I can once again delude myself.



Captain America is going after Bucky. He doesn't know nor could he be involved with the OsCorp stuff becomes it keeps emerging and re-emerging at an unpredicatable rate. S.H.I.E.L.D. would have the time and resources...but WAIT! We just saw S.H.I.E.L.D. get annihilated in last MCU film. That would explain why they aren't there.



I know a lot of people will disaggree with me but I don't think anyone wouldn't find it funny that S.H.I.E.L.D.'s non-appearance in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 makes more sense than its refusal to show up in Iron Man 3. Anyway, sound off below. Call me nuts! Just tell me what you think below!
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IamnotYou
IamnotYou - 4/6/2014, 6:35 PM













Lmao.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 4/6/2014, 6:36 PM
I don't think it will happen, but they definitely opened a window, which could allow Spidey to enter their cinematic universe.
Abary
Abary - 4/6/2014, 6:40 PM
lol?
TheDuck
TheDuck - 4/6/2014, 6:50 PM
no
PYM90
PYM90 - 4/6/2014, 7:11 PM
Sitwell did say something about an honors high school student before mentioning banner and strange. My wife and I looks at each other and instantly thought Peter Parker?
sikwon
sikwon - 4/6/2014, 7:16 PM
I don't THINK it will happen but I hope like he'll you are right. If Marvel had never mentioned Oscorp I wouldn't think it possible. The fact that they almost put the building in the Avengers gives me hope. And like you I just want him in the universe.
sikwon
sikwon - 4/6/2014, 7:17 PM
@Pym90...right!! I bet every one of those was a meaningful reference.
PYM90
PYM90 - 4/6/2014, 7:25 PM
@sikwon. It might have been nothing, but that was the first thing that popped into our heads.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 4/6/2014, 8:53 PM
So crazy it just might work.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 4/6/2014, 10:13 PM
God, I hope so. If TASM joined the MCU, all of the haters would shut up and start loving it.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 4/6/2014, 11:59 PM
Lol, fanboys just crack me up sometime.

Btw, Shield not showing up to help the president in IM 3 is pretty much explained by Hydra's infiltration of it. Fury might have been kept in the dark by the Hydra agents for a few hours, hoping that the VP would take over (the VP might have been Hydra too, in addition to wanting to help that girl, or AIM might have been affiliated with Hydra), but Stark and Rhodey messed up the plan.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 4/7/2014, 12:18 AM
Lhornbk- i think that has more to do with the president being gone for only a few hours. when they attack the plane it was about the middle of the day, but when they find the president it's now night time. so the goverment knew something happend on air force 1 but not exactly what happend they could have fought the president went down with the plane. due to the vice president no one would have known anything about the president until killian blows him up on tele. and iron man 3 takes place before the events of TWS.
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 4/7/2014, 5:13 AM
Haha everybody here now hates Garfield.



[frick] Garfield!
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 4/7/2014, 5:13 AM
Andrew Garfield, not the cat. He is hilarious.
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 4/7/2014, 5:13 AM
The cat is hilarious, not Andrew.
ruadh
ruadh - 4/7/2014, 9:42 AM
@ALmight

I actually don't think Sony has the rights to MOrales, but Feige has made it clear that they have a good relationship with Sony, like where they're taking the character. It'd also be a bad move to find a cheat if Marvel Studios wants to maintain a good relationship with Sony. Which they seem to.

The one thing I'll argue with about this article, since there's not really any true evidence expressed about ASM fitting with the MCU continuity....is Iron Man retiring. He didn't retire. He removed the chest RT, and he blew up all the suits he had at the moment to show Pepper how he was going to stop with the distractions. Not only does he never say anything about retiring, his last line makes it clear he's doing anything but.
GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 4/7/2014, 12:12 PM
I think it opens the door to fit in, but we will see if he does. There has def been room for him to join.
BladeCagePanther
BladeCagePanther - 4/7/2014, 1:52 PM
I really hope like heck that this is the case. Spidey NEEDS to be in the MCU. I don't even necessarily need him to be an Avenger, I just need him to exist within the framework of the same continuity.....and bring on Miles as the Scarlet Spider as well.
TheDarman
TheDarman - 4/7/2014, 2:36 PM
"No it isn't. Take it from someone who saw TASM2, the moment CIA showed up, SHIELD was tossed out the window."

@MrSotoJuiceMan Granted, you've seen it and I haven't but with S.H.I.E.L.D. obliterated wouldn't that warrant the C.I.A. stepping up into a role that it hadn't needed to fill before. The destruction of S.H.I.E.L.D. would totally open a power vacuum that other U.S. Agencies would almost surely fill immediately.

"Lol. It's pretty weird that they send most of their SWAT and helicopter(which disappears from the movie) to go catch a guy in spandex instead of the giant mutated lizard. Hurts my brain just thinking about the stupid logic in that movie."

@Pending They sent a good deal of S.W.A.T. after the Lizard. Man, if the Lizard hadn't had regenerative powers equivalent to that of Wolverine that would've been the end of the bad guy. Whatever you want to say, the NYPD was portrayed WAY more competent than in The Avengers. Wait...do you think that they may have learned contingencies with dealing with a superhuman threats from the events in the Avengers.

"It's because of the way everyone reacts to the "bizarre" notion of the Lizard and Spider-Man that makes it seem like a world that has never been exposed to hulks, gods, aliens or iron men.

I agree with the tone but It's everything else doesn't match up with what's been established story-wise."

@Pending Yes, they don't react in that way. But, yet again, we'd seen an alien invasion. The PUBLIC doesn't really know about Hulk's condition. I don't think it is public knowledge in the MCU that a GUY turns into the giant green monster. This would be the first time anyone would've told you that someone had TURNED themselves into a monster. It's still a little outside that realm, especially since everything else has some sort of explanation that makes some sort of sense.
kong
kong - 4/8/2014, 4:38 PM
Okay so that explains the events of TASM 2, but Iron man's NYC house isn't too far from Times Square and he would probably show up. Spider-Man would've been mentioned in another MCU film by now and if not then will be in AOU next year, which won't happen. And if New York had just been attacked 2 months earlier (since we're assuming the events of the film begin when they are released) they would still be rebuilding and there's be tons of mention of it. Also with the Avenhers seen as heroes, why would Spidey be a vigilante? They see him fighting a monster trying to attack New York and their minds will automatically go back to the events 2 months before. So no. It's not happening and it won't until Spidey stops making money. That won't happen for a while.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 4/8/2014, 7:51 PM
I would love Spidey in the MCU.
TheDarman
TheDarman - 4/10/2014, 3:03 PM
@RedHood13 Iron Man was in Malibu. Even if he could make it back to New York to deal with it, it would take hours for him to fly from Malibu to New York. It isn't instantaneous. Your idea that The Amazing Spider-Man takes place in July is, I'm sorry, a little out there because they're in school. In July, school is out, even in New York. I'd place The Amazing Spider-Man around November, about a month before Iron Man 3 takes place. The Avengers, since Iron Man 3 takes place six months afterwards, takes place in June of that year. On the news for Iron Man, there was a crew (forgot their name, forgive me) that cleaned up the fight in a couple of hours. Should The Avengers' issues have been dealt with in the five month time period. Not entirely...but that would explain the cranes. I'd also like to point out how much of an anomaly Spider-Man was. Iron Man was dealing with huge issues outside of the US when he debuted, Captain America was a national hero, Thor just popped up in a small-town to deal with an other-worldly feud and Hulk did level Harlem. There have been no REAL vigilantes in the MCU until Spider-Man, which would show their apprehensiveness to him. And why would Spider-Man be referenced? Just explain that to me. I mean, do we reference every single superhero in every single movie now? I can guarantee low-level heroes like Spider-Man, compared to the greats like the Avengers, would not be of any concern. Why would we need constant references? In the comics we don't need that. And, no, he wouldn't be in AOU, nor would it make sense a) narratively and b) creatively. Spider-Man wasn't there for all the Avengers stories in the comics and since the Avengers are not even going to be spending a lot of time fighting the bad guy in New York, I don't understand the assumption that Spider-Man MUST be there.
ashwin5000
ashwin5000 - 4/17/2014, 3:06 PM
It kinda doesn't make sense. I wish it were true but look at what I have to say. The Amazing Spiderman 1 and the Avengers 1 came out in the same year. The Avengers came out before the Amazing Spiderman. So, wouldn't the events of aliens invading New York have so much of talk in the Amzing Spiderman 1? well even if Amazing Spiderman were to take place before the Avengers, then wouldn't Peter Parker(Andrew Garfield) at least give a cameo in the Avengers. But my assumption is that Amazing Spiderman happened after the events of Avengers, and that the movie didn't want to focus on the events of alien invasion in New York. But, the ending of Captain America 2 makes sense on why neither S.H.E.I.L.D. nor Captain America could show up at that Times Square incident with the Electro. Just my thoughts. and has anyone thought(WARNING: This is Is a Spoiler! I wouldn't read after this!)if OsCorp could be working for HYDRA? I get that Norman Osborn will later create another organization called H.A.M.M.E.R (not to do with Justin Hammer, at least I don't think). But does OsCorp and the Sinister Six later join HYDRA? just asking.
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