EDITORIAL: Marvel Studios Presents R-Rated Movies

EDITORIAL: Marvel Studios Presents R-Rated Movies

Marvel Studios has built itself into a trusted family friendly brand. But that leaves their darker titles out in the cold. Or does it? Hit the jump to find out how Marvel can release films for “Mature Audiences Only”.

Editorial Opinion
By TwistedKingdom - Jan 19, 2015 10:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

 

This May, Marvel Studios puts a bow on its Phase Two slate of films with The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Later in the summer, Phase Three kicks off with Ant Man. Agent Carter is off and running on ABC and new shows revolving around The Defenders are set to stream on Netflix. Cap that off with the midseason premiere of Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D in March and the Marvel brand is standing tall. The fruits of a gamble that paid off huge.

 

Over the last seven years the studio has not only built an expansive universe on television and the big screen but also trust with audiences. Namely, families. Sure, long time fans of the comics can enjoy Marvel’s films but so can general audiences. Parents know they can take their entire family to any of their movies. Because while Kevin Feige and company were expanding their MCU they were also building equity.

Without it, Marvel’s The Avengers doesn’t set the opening weekend record, Guardians of the Galaxy isn’t the breakout hit of 2014, and talks of incorporating Spider-Man into the MCU probably never happen.

 

But not everyone is fond of Marvel's brand. While the lighter tone has proven profitable, it hasn’t gone over well with some fans. The studio is often accused of making “Action Comedies” or films “For Kids”. Neither is very accurate. Yes, these films have comedy in them and are appropriate for children but Marvel makes family films, which is smart. Per BoxOfficeMojo.com, the ten top grossing movies of all time (worldwide) are aimed at families, with the exception of Skyfall.
 

Marvel announced its Phase Three slate in 2014 and it looks like they’re staying consistent with their product. But what about those fans who prefer their material much darker? This isn’t to say they can’t enjoy the long awaited Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange movies. The thing is, Marvel recently got back the rights to their more mature, adult themed characters - Blade, Daredevil, the Punisher and Ghost Rider.

 

Yeah, Daredevil’s Netflix show is set for April but some feel his place is on the silver screen, with bigger production value. The issue comes with these characters fitting the current MCU. Frank Castle isn’t exactly a role model. And Ghost Rider doesn’t really burn his brightest under the restrictions of a PG-13 rating.

 

So, the question is, how does Marvel release "Adults Only" versions of their mature properties while keeping their family brand intact? Answer: create a separate division. A MAX division.



Did you know Disney released Pulp Fiction? Not under the Disney logo but through Miramax films. Disney was able to release a number of adult themed movies when they owned Miramax. Studios create subdivisions all the time for niche or specialty films - 20th Century Fox and Fox Searchlight. Sony and Screen Gems.

 

Marvel could do the same for their darker titles. Open a Max Comics film division and create a new MCU (Max Cinematic Universe) inhabited by the likes of Blade, the Kingpin and Mephisto.

 

And Marvel could produce these films on more moderate budgets since they’d focus primarily on their street level characters. Instead of spending $150 to $200M you’re looking at maybe a third of that.

Marvel could absolutely create a smaller Max Comics film division. The question would probably become do you keep these two MCUs separate. And that would lead to crossover rumors…which are always fun.

 

IN CLOSING

 

I wasn’t pleased with the films for Daredevil, Ghost Rider and the Punisher. Now that they’re all under the same roof, I believe creating a singular universe where Marvel's explicit content can exist and flourish is an idea that should at least be considered.

On the big screen, too. You can’t underestimate the importance of production value. Just compare Constantine the show to Constantine the movie. Plus, shows can flounder and/or overstay their welcome. Or flat-out get canceled before finding their legs.

 

With a Marvel Studios division for the big stuff and a Max division for “mature audiences only” material, the company could truly say they offer something for everyone. What do you think? Could a Marvel Max film division work? Sound off below and, as always, thanks for reading.
 

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MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 1/19/2015, 12:08 PM
Get this shit on main.

Good job sir, hopefully the mindless haters will give this a read.
tokens
tokens - 1/19/2015, 12:14 PM
again!
really!
tokens
tokens - 1/19/2015, 12:15 PM
whatever. I guess.
this idea is perfect!
tokens
tokens - 1/19/2015, 12:15 PM
MAX comics are...
like wow... they really let a lot of anger out, those writers
tokens
tokens - 1/19/2015, 12:16 PM
hey marky.


what up.




how u doin buddy.
tokens
tokens - 1/19/2015, 12:17 PM
I had a malfunctioning gif. that explains my first comments...

for those of u that are late to the party
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 1/19/2015, 12:18 PM
cool idea, good article but it won't happen. Marvel is a brand and it's a known brand which disney now own. So all the marvel characters disney own will be used "eventually" in the marvel cinematic universe or they'll be ignored.
Because the separate universe that you're talking about would still have the marvel name on it and even if it didn't it would still be recognised as marvel. In essence it would be like disney suddenly releasing an r rated animated movie.
They did produce pulp fiction but they didn't put their name anywhere near it where as marvel and disney are inseparable now. They sell their merchandise in their stores, the theme parks are starting to get their characters, disney infinity etc. SO when ghost rider etc do get rebooted expect pg 13 versions and don't expect them for a while. Good article though
huckfinnisher
huckfinnisher - 1/19/2015, 12:31 PM
@beyondthefuture, Disney owns film companies that produce r rated movies.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 1/19/2015, 12:33 PM
Fantastic.

Thumbed, over and over, and over, and over, and over...you get the picture
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 1/19/2015, 12:42 PM
@beyondthefuture

Disney STILL releases R-Rated movies to this day, under the Touchstone Pictures banner. That began with, Down and Out in Beverly Hills in 1986.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 1/19/2015, 12:46 PM
Good job, nice article....

I am dying for a good Punisher movie, but I also want Punisher to be a part of the MCU.... I'm really hoping they introduce him in Daredevil and that they bring all these characters in for Civil War or the Infinity War movies....

But I really want to see Punisher make a cameo in Civil War, hopefully that happens

I think @Omegadagod has an idea awhile back to have Ghost Rider start off as a villain against Doctor Strange, I still think that would be absolutely amazing to see on screen

SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 1/19/2015, 12:59 PM
Loved Punisher Max, would be an interesting option.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 1/19/2015, 1:00 PM
I don't know if anybody saw "John Wick" but that made me realize how good a Punisher movie could be, it was an amazing action movie
Azazel1
Azazel1 - 1/19/2015, 1:00 PM
I think it depends on the film.

Guardians of the Galaxy was brilliant and had that lighter comic tone.

Ironman 3 went to far with the lighter tone, the comedy and could have used a darker tone to that film, it became laughable...

Ironman 1 was not a lighter toned film by any means and it worked, and worked well.

Cap 2 was of course not light by any means and it was awesome but then Cap 1 was this lighter fluff fest and it didn't...
Azazel1
Azazel1 - 1/19/2015, 1:02 PM
All in all I would like to see a Darker Thor...

a Darker Ironman....


JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 1/19/2015, 1:29 PM
@drkinsolving

John wick was one of my favorite movies last year(he killed 83 ppl in the whole movie!!).

SaxoWolf
SaxoWolf - 1/19/2015, 1:32 PM
Good idea. Interesting article.

I want more Punisher and Blade movies. do it Marvel!
BAD72SS
BAD72SS - 1/19/2015, 1:34 PM
It all comes down to Deadpool doing well . if Deadpool makes a lot of money at the box office marvel will be looking to do the same. no way they let Fox out do them .
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 1/19/2015, 1:35 PM
@JoJo1982

Same here, and it was a smart action movie, good story and everything....

That's what I want to see in a Punisher movie, but I want them to take influence from the "Born" story arc and maybe update his time as a soldier in Vietnam to the Gulf War or Afghanistan.... To show how messed up Castle was even before his family was murdered....

Right now, I'd settle from a cameo from Castle in Civil War though
patrat18
patrat18 - 1/19/2015, 1:36 PM

darthballz
darthballz - 1/19/2015, 1:41 PM
I just realized the timestamps on comments on this site are on PST. I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with my computer. lol.

Anyway, hopefully Marvel exec's listen to fans and forums like this. This idea is money to be made and fixes their issues with catering to the general public's need to be able to market to everyone.
epitaz
epitaz - 1/19/2015, 1:47 PM
I don't see it happening because as they say "if ain't broke don't fix it ". The fan base is happy with films families can go see together ( myself included ). The thing that gets lost on this website is people here are a very small percentage of the fan base. Sure the majority of the movie going public may never have read a comic and doesn't realize when a story has strayed from the source but that doesn't matter. The MCU has taken on a life of it's own. There are more people worldwide waiting to go see the next Marvel flick than are waiting for the newest book. A mature MCU would be nice but the demand just isn't there because by cutting the families ( and I mean families, my wife likes the Iron Man movies but would no way go see a darker, more violent Marvel film like Punisher ) you're only really appealing to one, maybe two members of the household and would lose out on family movie night to someone else.
Perrymanimal
Perrymanimal - 1/19/2015, 1:49 PM
Brilliant idea! But even if they didn't go full rated R they should at least honor the material by hiring writers that give a damn. Ghostrider and The Punisher both felt like everyone phoned it in. And don't get me started on Daredevil...hope they have revamped him properly.
elmsi
elmsi - 1/19/2015, 1:57 PM
Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist are all getting Netflix shows ending in a Defenders movie. I would love it if, after the Defenders, a few other heroes get their own Netflix shows. If they go for the same type of line-up (1 girl, 3 guys (One of them black)) then Punisher, Elektra, Blade and Moon Knight should be those heroes. And that could end in a Defenders 2 featuring these heroes.
MarvelousAgentX
MarvelousAgentX - 1/19/2015, 2:46 PM
This is not a good idea unless you want to cut out a, very large, portion of the paying audience. It is a natural trait of young men to think that the world revolves around them and their way of thinking is the only way. They, usually, neither know about or care about family time, most only care about their needs and wants.
I love being able to take my family to the movies and we have seen all of the Marvel movies together. In my opinion, there is not as much money in this idea and some young men may think.
pucrepeap
pucrepeap - 1/19/2015, 2:52 PM
I get that it allows more freedom in the film making, but R does not mean better. I didn't like Punisher War Zone. I liked The Punisher better.
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