James Gunn Addresses THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Delay And Why Critics Haven't Seen All Of PEACEMAKER Season 2

James Gunn Addresses THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Delay And Why Critics Haven't Seen All Of PEACEMAKER Season 2

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has talked more about why The Brave and the Bold is taking so long to materialise, and reveals why critics haven't been granted access to the final three Peacemaker episodes.

By JoshWilding - Aug 26, 2025 11:08 AM EST
Filed Under: The Brave and the Bold

As we near three years since DC Studios was launched, many fans can't help but express frustration at the lack of progress on The Brave and the Bold. Batman remains DC's most popular character, and on the surface, a Batman and Robin story shouldn't be that tough to figure out.

There's already some scepticism surrounding the project thanks to the decision to have The Flash director Andy Muschietti take the helm. James Gunn hailed that as one of the greatest superhero movies ever made; fans and critics didn't agree. 

Muschietti has since implied that even he's unsure of The Brave and the Bold's status, while Gunn has talked candidly about DC Studios' struggles to find a take on the Caped Crusader that's not a repeat of what we've already seen. Likely not helping matters are Warner Bros. and Matt Reeves' plans for the "Elseworlds" The Batman: Part II.

Talking to Screen Rant, Gunn said, "We'll have to see what we're doing with Batman, and [figure] that out. So obviously we know some basics about where it's going with Batman, but we’re also figuring some things out, so everything's fluid."

While the filmmaker has been incredibly busy with Creature Commandos, Superman, and Peacemaker season 2, being three years into the DCU without The Brave and the Bold having a finished script is arguably bordering on being unforgivable. 

When the movie was announced, the intention was to adapt Grant Morrison's Batman run, where Bruce Wayne learns that he has a son, Damian, whom he attempts to train as his new Robin. 

Talking of Peacemaker, critics were only given access to five of eight episodes for review purposes, and in the same interview, Gunn confirmed that he's responsible for them being kept under wraps. 

"I am the one who's keeping the three episodes away from everybody because there are too many surprises in those last three episodes," he explained. "Especially 6 and 8, they are just crazy, my favourite things I've ever done of anything." 

It feels like we're in store for a big cameo or some huge revelations about the DCU's future, unless Gunn is hyping up the episodes to be bigger than they actually are. Many fans believe The Circle is being set up as the big bad of "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters," though we're not sure how Peacemaker could possibly tease The New Frontier baddie.

"There's really no new updates," Gunn recently said of The Brave and the Bold"I mean, we're working on a script. We have a screenwriter who's hammering away at it. I'm very involved, and so, you know, we'll see what happens next. I wish I had more news for you, but I don't."

Pushed on whether Robert Pattinson's Caped Crusader could join the DCU, he said, "It would be a consideration. We’d have to think about it. We’d have to think about it. It is not like we’ve never discussed it. I would never say zero [chance], because you just never know. But it’s not likely. It’s not likely at all."

Stay tuned for updates on The Brave and the Bold and Peacemaker season 2 as we have them.

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Deckacards
Deckacards - 8/26/2025, 11:27 AM
Are the final three episodes going to break new ground...? Maybe appear on Pornhub first?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/26/2025, 12:53 PM
@Deckacards - 😆 because of the orgey scene 🤣
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 8/26/2025, 11:30 AM
He needs to be either a Creative or a Studio Exec.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/26/2025, 11:30 AM
Gunn's Batman movie isn't happening until Reeves is finished with his trilogy; it just wouldn't make any financial sense to have two franchises for the same character competing with each other.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/26/2025, 12:55 PM
@TheJok3r - I completely agree. Let Reeve's thing play out.
Not like we're starved for Batman related stuff.
mck13
mck13 - 8/26/2025, 1:39 PM
@TheJok3r - Gunn is looking to make a ADAM WEST style batman...he destroys A List characters...doesnt even know the characters hes developing.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/26/2025, 2:29 PM
@mck13 - Jeff Schneider said that Reeves doesn't even answer to Gunn and Safren, he answers to De Luca and Abdy, which means that his Batman projects are under WB Pictures, not DC Studios. We'll see how things play out over the next few years, but I wouldn't be surprised if DC Studios doesn't have access to Batman period, not just Reeves' projects. James Gunn has the biggest mouth in Hollywood, but he seems to get very quiet when the topic of Batman comes up.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/26/2025, 4:11 PM
@mck13 - 🤡
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 8/26/2025, 11:35 AM

gun is gonna phuck it
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KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 8/26/2025, 12:15 PM
@harryba11zack - User Comment Image
SirReginald
SirReginald - 8/26/2025, 11:36 AM
Football stadium size orgy. Calling it...
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 11:39 AM
Interesting , I wonder what basics have been figured and what they are in the process of hammering out?.

I could perhaps see them knowing the type of tone , age range & such they want for their Batman while still figuring how much of the Bat Family exist in this universe & which members etc.

Also in regards to the final 3 episodes of Peacemaker , they could be big in terms of revelations that impact the wider universe & cameos but I wouldn’t be shocked if the surprises Gunn is talking about are more narrative based as in perhaps that universe being too good to be true & Chris’s father & brother maybe being worse then they seem on the surface level?.

Anyway , looking forward to the rest of the season since I liked the S2 premeire!!.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 8/26/2025, 2:03 PM
@TheVisionary25 - im guessing the basics would be where in the storyline we are with damien. Has he been robin for a while? Will this be talia revealing damien to bruce for the first time?

Who the villain is. I feel that feels basic in figuring out early. Could be deathstroke if its damiens introduction. He said he wants his batman to be kind of a batshit maniac and wild and brutal so i could see deathstroke fitting that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 2:16 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - he didn’t say that he wants this Batman to be a maniac but that that’s how he would do Batman of he was directing it which may or may not necessarily be how this version turns out.

You could be right in terms of those being the basics but I think I just assumed it would be about Damian & Bruce’s first encounter.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 8/26/2025, 2:31 PM
@TheVisionary25 - it could very well be the first encounter which would make sense narratively. So far we have only seen him solo. So we will see him operating solo until brave and the bold. Deathstroke would be a good villain for that. Or perhaps it could be ras. Talia gives damien to bruce so ras doesnt get to him?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 11:42 AM
“𝐖𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐢𝐥𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐲 𝐛𝐮𝐬𝐲 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐂𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐨𝐬, 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐧, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝟐, 𝐛𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐃𝐂𝐔 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐝 𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐮𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐲 𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐧 𝐛𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞.“

Oh brother…

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That kind of entitlement is part of the problem with fandom nowadays.

Ya’ll would be surprised how long movies actually take to develop usually smh.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/26/2025, 12:00 PM
@TheVisionary25 - The type of comments written by Mr. Wilding about no MCU movie ever. It’s inflammatory BS.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 8/26/2025, 2:13 PM
@TheVisionary25 - for me its not so much not being able to wait. Its the silence on it. I assume the silence was so focus could be on superman which makes sense. Now that the movie is out i hope we get more updates on its progress. i just like knowing its still being worked on and there are no issues with it. Because when you hear nothing, it feels like the production is going through issues. Even then we will probably get batman casted well before brave and the bold.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 8/26/2025, 2:15 PM
@TheVisionary25 - especially because last time they chatted about it they even said they had a hard time cracking batman.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 2:18 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - I get yah but if they could also not give updates because things are progressing well but they just haven’t moved to the next stage yet.

Also given the iterations that have come before and the current Reeves one , I can understand how they would have a hard time cracking this since you want it to feel fresh yet familiar but it’s a character that’s been done so much , how do you try to do that exactly?
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 8/26/2025, 2:24 PM
@TheVisionary25 - i feel with batman, the way you differentiate him from reeves is to focus on villains that reeves wouldnt be able to do. Go full fantastical with him. Mad hatter, man bat, killer croc. That being said would love matt reeves take on those characters. Do the blue and grey suit. Make him more classic james bond like with the gadgets maybe.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 3:28 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - I agree

Fantastical is the way to go
MisterBones
MisterBones - 8/26/2025, 11:44 AM
"...my favourite things I've ever done of anything."

An often used quote by Gunn
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/26/2025, 11:57 AM
@MisterBones - "my least favorite things I've ever done of anything" sounds like top notch marketing lmao
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 8/26/2025, 11:47 AM
I don’t care if it takes a while just make it good.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 8/26/2025, 11:52 AM
@Ha1frican - not if gunn can help it
jst5
jst5 - 8/26/2025, 12:52 PM
@Ha1frican - Better hope Gunn doesn't have any ink in the script...if so you'll get a Batman and Robin meets Peacemaker in tone with some out of place punk rock music.
Irregular
Irregular - 8/26/2025, 11:55 AM
"being three years into the DCU without The Brave and the Bold having a finished script is arguably bordering on being unforgivable."

I really wish a lot of you writers on CBM would stop trying to put an unnecessary spin on anything that is NOT Marvel.

With that being said, unforgivable my ass. How can they navigate Batman without it over shadowing Superman like they did before? Batman isn't the only hero DC has and shouldn't be a focus again. There's also the risk of endangering the Batman brand which is honestly, slowly beginning to take shape.

Really don't see any envy in any writer to be responsible for working on a new Batman movie while going up against another Batman movie in your portfolio that contradicts what the studio is trying to achieve. Screw that.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/26/2025, 11:55 AM
I'm in no rush to have two different Batman sharing the screen. This movie will definitely show up in 5 years, not a day sooner and I'm fine with that.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/26/2025, 11:58 AM
And I'm glad they didn't give the last three episodes because the spoilers would be all over this site
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/26/2025, 11:59 AM
.. and a dozen articles on how it's not as cool as Marvel
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/26/2025, 12:06 PM
"I am the one who's keeping the three episodes away from everybody because there are too many surprises in those last three episodes," he explained.

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