LIGHTYEAR: Pixar Boss Gets Honest About Where He Believes The TOY STORY Spin-Off Went Wrong

LIGHTYEAR: Pixar Boss Gets Honest About Where He Believes The TOY STORY Spin-Off Went Wrong

Lightyear struggled to find an audience last year, and Pixar's Chief Content Officer has now spoken openly about where he believes the Toy Story spin-off went wrong and how best to approach this franchise.

By JoshWilding - Feb 23, 2023 09:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Disney
Source: The Wrap (via Toonado.com)

Lightyear was released last year to mostly positive reviews (it has a respectable 74% on Rotten Tomatoes), but it was far from the critical darling most Pixar movies are.

More importantly, it earned only $226 million at the worldwide box office on a $200 million budget. A rare disappointment - or flop - for the studio, many pundits have since questioned what went wrong with the movie.

As we're sure you know, the sci-fi tale followed the "real" Buzz Lightyear with Chris Evans lending his voice to the Space Ranger in place of Tim Allen. It was supposed to be the movie that a young Andy watched before getting a Buzz action figure for his birthday, an idea that served as an undeniably clever way to expand the Toy Story franchise beyond, well, toys. 

Talking to The Wrap (via Toonado.com), Pixar Chief Creative Officer Pete Docter got candid about why he believes Lightyear didn't resonate with audiences. 

"We’ve done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the movie. We love the characters and the premise," he tells the trade. "I think probably what we’ve ended on in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience."

"When they hear Buzz, they’re like, great, where’s Mr. Potato Head and Woody and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they’re like, 'What?' Even if they’ve read the material in press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more of a science fiction."

"And [director] Angus [MacClane], to his credit, took it very seriously and genuinely and wanted to represent those characters as real characters," Docter continues. "But the characters in ‘Toy Story’ are much broader, and so I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected and what we were giving to them."

Based on these remarks, we can probably forget about seeing any further Toy Story spin-offs in this vein, while Lightyear was almost certainly a one-off after those disappointing box office takings. 

On a happier note, Toy Story 5 is on the way, and you can find out what the Pixar boss had to say about that right here.

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DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/23/2023, 9:02 PM
Didn’t hate it like most did, but really expected more. Loved this series as a kid and was really hoping this was the avenue they would go down. How this isn’t on Disney + yet is beyond me.
MasterMix
MasterMix - 2/23/2023, 9:09 PM
@DudeGuy - I'll be watching the movie tomorrow. Haven't seen it in years, but I managed to find a copy at the library. Much better than Lightyear.
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 2/23/2023, 9:12 PM
@MasterMix - My genital warts are better than Lightyear.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 2/23/2023, 9:15 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - I have some difficulty believing that.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/23/2023, 9:17 PM
@OriginalGusto1 -

To infinity & beyond?

Gross!

TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/23/2023, 9:02 PM
A spiritual spin-off is a hard ask of an audience.
mountainman
mountainman - 2/23/2023, 9:08 PM
These dorks can never take ownership for their failures.

“what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience”

Always blaming the audience when their products don’t resonate.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/23/2023, 9:33 PM
@mountainman - Those things means the same thing.
Origame
Origame - 2/23/2023, 9:48 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - except one implies it's the film makers who f@#$ed up. The other basically states the audience did.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/23/2023, 9:53 PM
@Origame - Only if you’re sensitive and take it that way. He literally said they did soul searching which by it’s very definition means they had to look inside and see what they did wrong.
Origame
Origame - 2/23/2023, 9:55 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - if you're going there, soul searching can mean any number of things, including general realizations.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/23/2023, 10:04 PM
@Origame - Only if you’re using the term wrong in this context.
Origame
Origame - 2/23/2023, 10:10 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - no it doesn't. The definition can simply mean you deeply considered your conclusion. And the context doesn't even change that.

Look at their examples of why it's a flop: the audience expected woody, but got a space story.
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 2/23/2023, 9:09 PM
I thought it was 'cause we were all stupid?
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 2/23/2023, 9:18 PM
Well damn. There goes my hopes and dreams of a Jurassic Park style spin off with Rex or a Snatch like movie from the perspective of Hamm. God. Damn it.
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 2/23/2023, 9:24 PM
@ScaryTerry - You have really weird dreams.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 2/23/2023, 11:07 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - You have no idea. Micro dosing diesel and grain alcohol will do that
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/23/2023, 9:22 PM
Movie was a snooze fest
thunderpun573
thunderpun573 - 2/23/2023, 9:29 PM
Lmao what a bunch of bullshit. Asking too much of the audience, my ass. We’re not (all) dipshits dude! The concept of a buzz Lightyear sci-fi action story is not too hard for us to understand, and neither is the time dilation plot, both of which have done before and much better (Star command and Interstellar). The Star Command cartoon would’ve been a perfect template for the movie but they completely ignored it to give us Interstellar-lite with a shitty twist concerning Zurg. The only thing you’re asking too much of the audience for is to like this shitty, boring, disappointment of a movie.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/23/2023, 9:35 PM
They should’ve made it a little more fun and action packed if they wanted to keep it animated. They should’ve made this a live action film if they wanted to use the story they went with and the serious tone. And I would’ve still been down for Chris Evans being buzz light year and the live action film.
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