What Keeps You From Seeing a CBM?

What Keeps You From Seeing a CBM?

A look at some of the "arguments" or complaints about reboots, recasts, and other elements of a CBM and how it drives people "away from the movies."

Editorial Opinion
By BattlinMurdock - Sep 01, 2012 08:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

You may have noticed that Terrence Howard never got to suit up in the War Machine regalia. Katie Holmes looked surprisingly a lot like Maggie Gyllenhaal in The Dark Knight. And did you know that if Ryan Reynolds isn't Hal Jordan in another Green Lantern movie, there are some angry commenters who won't go see the movie?

Let me put a waiver on this article, very quickly. You are within every right to not go see a film for whatever you desire. If you have no interest in the character, the story, the filmmakers, the actors; quite frankly, you have whatever right and reason you want to skip out on the film. But also realize that I'm someone who thinks that one should stand by what they say when they "skip out" of a movie for superfluous reasons like the re-casting of a small role. Simply put; if you announced to the world that you weren't going to see The Dark Knight in 2008 when you heard Maggie Gyllenhaal was playing Dawes, then you miss out on a terrific movie and should only blame your arrogant stubbornness.

My question here is, "Are you really going to?"


The Flash movie is going to star Jay Garrick instead of Barry Allen or Wally West? Screw that. I'm skipping.

Really? You're going to skip Flash's big screen debut because of the specific character they're going with? Why do you feel so unjustified? If you're a fan of the Flash, does it really matter which one gets brought to light? There's nothing wrong with having a preference; I'd personally like to see Allen on screen. But I'm going to go see a Flash with whatever Flash they give me, because I'm not yet a professional filmmaker and this could be the only Flash movie they make (especially if no one goes to see it).

An unpopular character is no excuse for a bad movie, and filmmakers know that. There are plenty of directors who go through the motions and direct without any passion or interest in the subject. If the trailer comes out and it looks as if the filmmakers make the Flash a bumbling, drunken heathen, or the footage looks like it was shot on a NOKIA cell phone, or if it looks unstable and unbearable, then, no. I won't go check it out, despite my strongest curiosities. But a specific character or villain does not sway me to stay away.


They re-cast? Now the whole movie is going to look stupid.

It's fairly petty to think that an actor or actress (who is good, mind you) detracts the entire film merely because you don't like them. Bear in mind, I'm not talking about if you find them to be prejudice or stand for something intolerable (ex. Plenty of people hate Mel Gibson for his outbursts), I'm talking about merely if you just have a personal disdain for their presence. Do I think Jack Black belongs in Wonder Woman? No. But I also know the filmmakers aren't going to make him the love interest. Jack Black, in a small role, will not keep me away from Wonder Woman.

Back to the point, I understand that it makes things stand out. You do have to get used to it and it briefly takes you out of the movie. But the actor hasn't done their job properly if they show up on screen and try to take you out of the movie by acting completely out of the character already established. And quite frankly, you don't know they'll do that unless you go see the movie (or read a review for a movie you had no interest in seeing). In the cases of Iron Man 2, The Dark Knight, and The Avengers, the actors took a minute to adjust to, and then I'd say they were welcome adjustments. A re-cast is not always negative.

And sometimes, they're just out of the filmmakers' control. Actors can sometimes become very stubborn with demands or budge out of contracts. It happens. Studios deal. Shouldn't you?



Another Batman movie is such a cash-grab. No, thank you.

So is "another Batman comic book." I feel like some people forget that movies have to make money in order for them to continue being an art and entertainment. Are you expecting Warner Brothers to come out and say, "We made this new Batman movie. It's really good, we put a lot of thought and time into it, and it's more like the comic version of Batman you grew up with. Here, it's free."

There's a difference between a "cash-grab" and restarting a franchise. Studios expect and want all their movies to make a profit. They're not selective to the point where they say, "This movie won't do well, but let's make it anyway. Anything goes wrong, we'll reboot Twilight." Restarting a franchise is a way to take old ideas, make them fresh and new, and make a profit...while telling a specific, arcing story.

To me, the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequels were a cash-grab. They provided nothing new as they continued, except how these characters would deal with specific locations and other characters. There is no over-arcing development to anything (in contrast to the Toy Story movies). They made those films for the sole sake of making money, and, boy, did they.

In conclusion, I think one should have very valid reasons for skipping out on a movie they were previously waiting a long time for. Everyone is entitled to skip for whatever reason they feel like, but it's difficult for me to take criticisms from those people seriously when they jump ship because of some of the mentions above. I want to know in the comments; what's enough to make YOU skip a movie?
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RunDTC
RunDTC - 9/1/2012, 8:48 AM
if Reynolds was recast as GL, I'd be there opening day. I had no desire to see Green Lantern when it came out. glad I only paid $1.99 to see that crap.
GoILL
GoILL - 9/1/2012, 9:20 AM
Not knowing much about a particular character or reviews/word of mouth would make me reluctant to see a cbm.
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/1/2012, 9:24 AM
what kept me away from seeing the spirit was bad reveiws,but i did see it eventually my nan brought it for me on blu-ray for christmas. :(

i am gonna start getting abit more picky with the films i see,i did see superman 4,howard the duck,batman forever,green lantern,batman & robin,supergirl,crow 2 city of angels,x-men origins wolverine all at the cinema.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 9/1/2012, 9:41 AM
I wait for reviews from users here, and if most of them are bad I wont go see it.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 9/1/2012, 9:47 AM
Nice write up as usual, but yes I would not watch a Flash movie if it introduced Jay Garrick firs simply because I have no interest in seeing a Flash movie with Jay Garrick in the lead than Barry Allen. Its a matter of preference, its that simple. But if it has an amazing team behind it and an awesome cast then I'll be there first showing.

On the topic re-casts don't bother me I am down with it, its hollywood shit like that happens in movies. If Aragorn wasn't recast then people would have not been exposed to the awesomeness of Viggo Mortensen on such a scale. People were ready to lynch Ruffalo and Marvel Studios before the Avengers opened up, but surprise surprise who stole the show it was Ruffalo as Banner/Hulk. So re-casting doesn't bother me
Hellsing
Hellsing - 9/1/2012, 9:50 AM
Also If I am unsure about a movie then I wait till I hear my friends and families opinion before I decide to watch a movie. Most of the times I have decent idea of what I want to watch or not.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 9/1/2012, 10:19 AM
For me whether or not I see a Comic book movie, just falls in the same line with whether I see any movie. I have no interest in Thor as a comic book character. When I heard about the movie, I had very little interest in it. After seeing the trailers, it peaked my interest and I went to see it and it's one of my favorite Marvel movies. The same could be said for Hellboy. It looked really dumb to me and when I finally did see it, I didn't like it. In both of these cases, it had nothing to do with the fact they were comic book movies. I just look at them as movies. Though I would prefer it if they made a Flash movie about Barry, if they made one with Jay I would still see it if it looked like a good movie. I'm not a fan of the Alien movies and when I heard about Prometheus I had zero interest in it what so ever until I started seeing some trailers and it made me want to check it out. Turned out to be one of my favorite of the year. I think you get the point. We shouldn`t look at them so much as comic movies, but as movies.
As far as recasts go, doesn`t bother me as long as it`s a good switch. The Aragorn example above isn`t good since it wasn`t like Viggo joined after the first movie was already made. In a situation like Iron man with replacing Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle they replaced a great actor with a great actor. It worked and wasn`t distracting.
With the cash grab stuff, I have no problem with that. Making movies is a business and every movie a big studio makes is for the purpose of making money. The first Alvin and The Chipmunks was a cash grab. Who cares if they make more?
jessepostal
jessepostal - 9/1/2012, 11:45 AM
I watch every cbm, good or bad, its a cbm of course im gonna give it a chance and judge it for myself. It doesn't stop me from watching it if something is different or out of its element. Some i will wait for the blu though if im not feeling it as much, but i wont skip it completely.
IronLeprechaun
IronLeprechaun - 9/1/2012, 12:04 PM
i need to watch the movie before I pass judgement, it's always like that also Battlin can you check out my editiorial WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE FLASH thanks!
IronLeprechaun
IronLeprechaun - 9/1/2012, 12:06 PM
WAIT IS THE FLASH MOVIE REALLY JUST GOING TO STAR JAY GARRICK and NOT BARRY ALLEN OR WALLY WEST??? ANSWER PLEASE!!!
GoILL
GoILL - 9/1/2012, 1:29 PM
@cipher that Bomberman guy is most likely a troll, he has pretty much only posted bullshit all week.
GoILL
GoILL - 9/1/2012, 2:26 PM
@cipher yes sir, even though it has been kinda quiet around here since the bannings some assholes still like want to stick to the same routine.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/1/2012, 3:48 PM
Huge changes will keep me out of the theatre every time. X-Men First Class is the biggest example. I waited to rent it from red box, and even though the storh was okay, all the idiotic changes and ruination of its own series' continuity made it a horrible film.

I dont need a CBM to be 100% faithful to the comics, but First Class was downright insulting.
MisterMagurlypse
MisterMagurlypse - 9/1/2012, 4:00 PM
I'll give any CBM a chance, I may not watch it ever again ie...GRSOV comes to mind. If it has Jack Black in it I will be passing though!!
MrReese
MrReese - 9/1/2012, 4:54 PM
I second @StrangerX
RunDTC
RunDTC - 9/1/2012, 8:54 PM
@BarnaclePete: Terrence Howard is a great actor?
RunDTC
RunDTC - 9/1/2012, 8:55 PM
I'm actually going to go see TASM for the first time tomorrow. I really don't know why I've waited so long. I've heard good reviews and my friends liked it. I guess nothing about it really jumped out at me to go see it as soon as I could.
CPBuff22
CPBuff22 - 9/1/2012, 9:48 PM
As far as Batman goes they did it 8 times to a varying success. I'm burned out. I wouldn't have seen TDKR if pre-release tickets hadn't fallen in my lap. And I hated it. There were a lot of things I hated like Banes character & Costume and all the plot holes that had this been another movie I would have possibly over looked. The problem is I am burned out on Batman and they have had 7 films prior to TDKR to get it right, it should have been flawless.

Ghost Rider, Green Lantern, Fantastic Four: Rise of Silver Surfer... sure they all sucked but on initial viewing I got at least some enjoyment.

The reason all the Marvel Studio movies are so good to me is not just because they are well done but because were getting to see characters we have never seen on the big screen before.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/2/2012, 11:54 AM
Bad reviews dont prevent me, but it has to look good and exciting. I generally watch any and all CBM the only one i avoided was punisher, that looked really bad from the preview.

I wasnt going to see the second fantastic four movie (after seeing it I propably should have missed it) but the preview with silver surfer was awesome (in fact i remember emailing the link to it to to my brother).

Simply put the preview has to be good. if it looks bad then i might hesistate and then wait for the dvd.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 9/2/2012, 2:31 PM
Unfortunately, millions of people will likely refrain from seeing a movie that they probably would enjoy because a director or actor they hate is tied to the project.

My mother refuses to watch Tom Cruise in anything because of his outspoken support for Scientology. My brother refuses to watch anything with Mel Gibson because of how much of an outspoken Catholic he is (he left the church years ago).

I think critics are particularly biased against M. Night Shyamalan. The Last Airbender received an average lower than Batman and Robin. As silly as it sounds, I think South Park has inspired a lot of hatred towards him, as well as the previously aforementioned directors/actors.

Truth is, Tom Cruise is a great actor, and I've yet to see ONE instance where his personal life and beliefs overflowed into a movie. Mel Gibson, likewise, may not be my favorite actor or person, but the roles he's cast in are usually pretty awesome because HE makes them work.

But there's always going to be personal bias. I avoid everything with Miley Cyrus and Kristen Stewart, and if those two were cast to play a main character, if not the title character of, let's say... a Zatanna movie? I'd likely avoid it like the plague. If it got rave reviews, then I'd reconsider, and probably see it on DVD.
dezdigi
dezdigi - 9/4/2012, 8:10 AM
I go with reviews. Especially, with Rotten Tomatoes. It's hard to argue with over 100 reviews averaged out.
So far, everything I've liked as a CBM was rated over 60% on RT.
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