EDITORIAL: Were The First Two FANTASTIC FOUR Films Really That Terrible?

EDITORIAL: Were The First Two FANTASTIC FOUR Films Really That Terrible?

Before the superhero craze really took off, we had Maguire's Spider-Man and Chris Evans' Human Torch gracing our movie screens. However, did the first two F4 films deserve the hate they received?

Editorial Opinion
By KWilly - Jun 15, 2020 04:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Not including the unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four film; Marvel's First Family had their cinematic debut in 2005, with a sequel released in 2007. FOX took a good look at the Sam Raimi Spider-Man success and decided they can do more than just X-Men films. 

Well, critics and fans didn't agree with their execution. While the first F4 film brought in 333.5 million dollars in the box office, it only scored 27% on Rotten Tomatoes, with fans not liking it much more with a 45% score. So then we had a sequel, bringing newcomers like Galactus (not really) and the Silver Surfer. Reviews for that movie were slightly better, but with a box office of 301.9 million, FOX decided to wave the white flag and ended that franchise. 

First things first, let's see what they got right. The Fantastic Four are more than just superheroes who live under the same roof. They are a close-knit family that has average family problems and virtues. What makes them so interesting, is that this family is always put in otherworldly situations. So in terms of feeling like a family, this cast did that pretty well, along with playing their characters decently. 

Before Chris Evans had a shield, he pulled off a charming and hilarious Johnny Storm. Ioan Gruffudd did a solid job as Reed Richards. Not only did he play him well, but he also looked precisely like Mr. Fantastic from the comics. Then there's Michael Chiklis, who honestly knocked the role out of the park. He provided a top-notch, grizzly voice, and gave his Ben Grimm heart and soul. Other than being pretty short for The Thing, he was the best one of the cast. Jessica Alba was passable, but out of the four, she is the most forgettable. 

Other than that, both movies had some great comedic parts, an awesome music theme, as well as some downright impressive CGI and effects for its time. That Thing suit, while incredibly uncomfortable for the actor, was tremendous. 

Unfortunately, that's where the positives come to a halt. Neither of the F4 films had any weighty substance. In the comics, the F4 are explorers first, superheroes second. However, neither of the films made that a priority in their stories. Also, Doctor Doom is supposed to be a terrifying, brilliant ruler of his own country. This Doctor Doom (Julian McMahon) was nothing more than an irritating businessman with a few metal scars here and there. So, they completely flopped on the villain end for both films. 

Overall, both Fantastic Four and its sequel were simply decent, popcorn flicks. If you hate both of them, it's not preposterous at all. However, you have to admit you had a good laugh at least a few times for either of the F4 films. That's more you can say about the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot, which made me shiver just typing those words. Hopefully, Kevin Feige and his bountiful MCU world can give respect and love the F4 deserve. 

Let's be real... It's not like they have a high bar to clear in the first place. 

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Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/15/2020, 5:18 PM
Answer: Yes.
Origame
Origame - 6/15/2020, 5:19 PM
@Feralwookiee - i was expecting it being one of those editorials asking "is this famously bad franchise really that bad?" And the whole article is just the word yes.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/15/2020, 5:20 PM
I don't think I even liked these movies as a kid, and I liked every other superhero film that came out
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/15/2020, 5:22 PM
They were very poor to mediocre at best imo and amazingly DULL, which is something a FF movie should never be.
The "comedy" was flat and lame. The cgi was pretty bad even for it's time and the Thing's costume was pretty lousy.
Also, like most of us, I can never forgive them for Galatus being portrayed as a cloud. Smh
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 6/15/2020, 5:23 PM
Nah. And if I'm the only one to say it, that's okay. They were enjoyable movies. The second one even ventured into some really out-there territory by introducing the Silver Surfer. That is at least pretty cool...

Darth258
Darth258 - 6/15/2020, 5:31 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - About the second movie, i recently rewatched the old Silver Surfer cartoon and that Galactus striked me as someone that could hide in a cloud, sitting in his giant ship.
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 6/15/2020, 5:31 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - I too enjoyed them. Not saying they're good though. But definately enjoyable. Compares to Fant4stic this had enjoyment in it.
Darth258
Darth258 - 6/15/2020, 5:26 PM
I think the first F4 is better than most of the low tier MCU movies.
Better than Dark World and Ant-Man 2 for sure.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 6/15/2020, 5:27 PM
The movies are largely mediocre, they have some good moments but they also have plenty of bad moments. For what they were, when they came out, they were alright. All these years later, with an entire comic book universe (the MCU) with multiple examples of how to properly do a comic book movie and the material justice, its easy to be critical of these early films. They aren't Fant4stic level of bad, they also aren't say Iron Man or Batman Begins level of great. They are there, they exist, they have pros (for example, I like Dr Doom here) and plenty of cons (for example, shitty Galactus cloud). Certainly not a dumpster fire, but not a home run either.

My two cents.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 6/15/2020, 5:31 PM
Well, at least we got Chris Evans as Steve Rogers.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 6/15/2020, 5:32 PM
Compared to what would come, I thought the Doom design was decent.
Darth258
Darth258 - 6/15/2020, 5:35 PM
@MCUKnight11 - They got it almost right in the second movie. Though turning him into basically Electro was bad..

itzayaboy
itzayaboy - 6/15/2020, 5:37 PM
I loved the first one. Yeah it was cheesy and I was 10 when I saw it in theaters but I remember loving it. 2005 was a great year to go to the movies as a kid. Revenge of the Sith, Batman Begins, this and I’m probably forgetting some others but damn that was a great year.
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 6/15/2020, 5:39 PM
@zachman2013 - V for Vendetta.
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 6/15/2020, 5:40 PM
*cough on Netflix now *cough
NathanielX
NathanielX - 6/15/2020, 5:49 PM
I liked how they explained why they got diferent powers and why they went there, very straightfoward.
ElJefe
ElJefe - 6/15/2020, 5:54 PM
These movies are what Hollywood used to think you had to do with comic book properties ... make them like a live action cartoon, sorta campy and silly in places. But there were great moments to be had and I’ve watched them several times over the years.

Great casting for the ever-lovin’ blue eyed Thing: Michael Chiklis. And not going with CGI in 2005 was a good move - despite what you might think about the practical effects. The Thing is an emotional and complex fella, and he’d need some nuanced CGI performances to pull that off.



And Stan the Man got to play an honest-to-goodness Marvel Comics character Willie Lumpkin ... the one and only time he was one of his own creations (RIP)



And one last one - Doug Jones and Laurence Fishburne as Silver Surfer



...that was some casting genius, and the effects looked great for the time!

But there was the scene that scarred @Nomis for life and ruined him for all other superhero dance scenes for decades to come:



But was redeemed somewhat in the homage by Leonardo DeCaprio in Wolf of Wall Street

ElJefe
ElJefe - 6/15/2020, 5:55 PM
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