MAN OF STEEL Writer David S. Goyer Shares His Candid Thoughts On James Gunn's SUPERMAN Movie

MAN OF STEEL Writer David S. Goyer Shares His Candid Thoughts On James Gunn's SUPERMAN Movie

David S. Goyer wrote 2013's Man of Steel, and he's now weighed in with his thoughts on James Gunn's approach to the character in DC Studios' Superman. Did he like this very different approach to the hero?

By JoshWilding - Jul 25, 2025 08:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Cinemablend

David S. Goyer is no stranger to the DC Universe. He helped write Batman Begins, and worked on the stories for The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. Later, he penned the scripts for Zack Snyder's DCEU movies, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Goyer also counts Marvel's Blade trilogy and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance among his writing credits (he even stepped behind the camera to helm Blade: Trinity), and is someone whose work frequently draws mixed reviews from fans. 

Talking to Cinemablend about The Sandman, Goyer shared his verdict on DC Studios and James Gunn's Superman movie. The polar opposite of his and Snyder's moody take on the character, Superman has received praise from critics and comic book readers for its hopeful, optimistic interpretation of the Kryptonian. 

"I really liked it. People always assume that because I did The Dark Knight, I wouldn't like The Batman, but I really enjoyed it," Goyer shared. "Each generation gets the Superman they need. It felt like the pendulum with Man of Steel, obviously that was a much darker grounded version, and, and we're in a very different place, and I love that just the tagline that 'Kindness is punk rock.'"

"I think that [David] Corenswet is incredibly appealing. I never would have thought to use Krypto, and Krypto was delightful. And then I think the guy that stole the show was Mr. Terrific, who Geoff Johns and I basically turned into a real character in the Justice Society."

"So I was thrilled, I thought Mr. Terrific was awesome. Metamorpho, same. I love seeing a live action Metamorpho, and those are the kind of things that James Gunn can get away with, and God bless him because I love all these those weird quirky tertiary DC characters," he added. "I really enjoyed it and I was rooting for it, so I'm happy it's been successful."

Superman has received positive reviews but is struggling at the box office overseas, largely due to what many insiders believe is anti-American sentiment fueled by the actions of President Donald Trump.

Gunn even acknowledged that in a recent interview, when he said, "it also affects things that we have a certain amount of anti-American sentiment around the world right now. It isn’t really helping us. So I think it’s just a matter of letting something grow. But again, for us, everything’s been a total win."

"Having the movie come out and be something that has been embraced by people everywhere — this is just the seed of the tree that Peter [Safran] and I have been watering for the past three years," he continued. "So to be able to have it start off so positively has been incredibly overwhelming."

As the filmmaker suggests, Superman does have all the makings of a moderate hit and should serve a strong enough start for the DCU after the damage done to the brand by Warner Bros. during the hit-and-miss days of the DCEU (which ended in 2023 with a run of critical and commercial disappointments).

Superman is expected to be front and centre in the next movie Gunn is writing, though we still don't know whether that's World's Finest, Superman vs. The Authority, or something else entirely.

Superman is now playing in theaters. 

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WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 7/25/2025, 8:18 AM
I'm not even bothering reading the article. Good or bad, not gonna read it.

David S. Goyer?

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/25/2025, 3:23 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - Why, what did Goyer do to offend you? Blade Trinity? MOS?

It's nothing but gushing, positive, heartfelt geeky praise for the film, btw.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 8:25 AM
"Superman has received positive reviews but is struggling at the box office overseas, largely due to an anti-American sentiment fueled by the actions of President Donald Trump"

How dumb must a writer be to assume this kind of bs?
MR
MR - 7/25/2025, 8:29 AM
@Fogs - exactly. I’m no fan but this is just an assumption. Pure typical amateur fanboy “writing”.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/25/2025, 8:30 AM
@Fogs - BUT James Gunn, Superman had to follow up WB/DC Dumpster Fires: Black Adam, Flash, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, Birds of Prey, Blue Beetle and The Suicide Squad.

James Gunn Superman has SAVED the WB/DC DCU from Extinction.
MR
MR - 7/25/2025, 8:31 AM
@Fogs - just keep in mind, he wrote that just to illicit debate on this website. He doesn’t actually know that to say it. He just loves “controversy”.
AnEye
AnEye - 7/25/2025, 8:39 AM
@Fogs - How dumb can an American be to assume there isn’t anti-American sentiment?
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/25/2025, 8:39 AM
@Fogs - BUT James Gunn did Quote that needed to be reported.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/25/2025, 9:02 AM
@Fogs - I'd suggest you read this article from THR:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-superman-overseas-1236326825/

"On the same day that James Gunn’s Superman opened in U.S. theaters, President Donald Trump posted a meme of himself dressed as the Man of Steel. If there was a collective groan on the Warner Bros. lot, home of DC Studios, it’s no surprise. For years, the studio’s marketing mavens have worked to downplay the very pro-American aspect of the comic book hero when peddling the movie franchise internationally."

"Trump and his administration are a divisive topic across the globe, and not just in China."


And there's Gunn's quote, which was clearly referring to anti-American sentiment. I'm assuming you are American, so have no idea how your politics are perceived by most of the world in 2025.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:05 AM
@AllsGood - never said it didn't
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:06 AM
@AnEye - and who said I'm American? Or live in America, for that matter?
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:10 AM
@JoshWilding - wait a minute, mate. There's a huge difference between a meme and a director opinion and presenting that as a FACT as you did. You could mention these evidences but to make that assumption RESPONSIBLY we need data. At least a credible research.

And no, I'm not american and never lived there. I'm well aware of anti americanism and was surprised and glad johnston managed to override that in TFA. Said that many times.

Cheers.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:11 AM
@AllsGood - then quote it, not presenting it as FACT.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 7/25/2025, 9:16 AM
@Fogs - It would be difficult to draw a direct line from Trump to Superman's global box office, but it's inarguable that Superman is strongly associated with America; there's a rise in anti-American sentiment worldwide; and that Donald Trump is a big cause of that rise. Trump's presidency is far from the only factor affecting Superman's worldwide box office, but it's almost certainly a factor.
DenvertheDino
DenvertheDino - 7/25/2025, 9:22 AM
@Fogs - Exactly.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 9:31 AM
@Fogs - Exactly. Why, because we have a pro American President who does not apologize for American exceptionalism like Reagan? Because we are a sovereign nation again without dangerous open boarders and the rest of the world has to pay up and can’t feed off of America’s teet anymore?

Gunn’s Superman purposely did away with the “American way” never showed Superman holding or flying in front of a flag patriotically, and did al he could to make America the bad guys in a global war were the brown people were the victims. Maybe if he went the other way and had the stones to embrace patriotic American values unapologetically, this actually would have done better overseas. Instead he projected and it’s not doing well. The “other side” always assumes that everyone feels the same way they do when more than half the nation feels the opposite
Irregular
Irregular - 7/25/2025, 9:33 AM
@Fogs - "largely due to what many insiders believe is anti-American sentiment"

Only an American would be dumb enough to confuse "believe" with "FACT"

AnEye
AnEye - 7/25/2025, 9:37 AM
@Fogs - When you clearly left out the part of "many insiders BELIEVE" to kind of fuel your narrative, then yea, pretty obvious you are from the US.

Any dumbass can say "MATE" or "CHEERS" to pretend their not from the US. Clearly you ARE that dumbass.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/25/2025, 9:40 AM
@Fogs - James Gunn Says ‘Superman’ International Box Office Success Is Surprising Due to the ‘Anti-American Sentiment Around the World Right Now’ "Everything’s been a total win," Gunn said while refuting the "SuperWoke" right wing criticisms.

READ HERE! Big News that day.

https://www.indiewire.com/news/general-news/james-gunn-superman-international-success-surprising-1235139813/#:~:text=The%20writer%2Fdirector%2C%20who%20is%20also%20the%20co-head%20of,box%20office%20despite%20rising%20%E2%80%9Canti-American%20sentiment%20%5Bs%5D%E2%80%9D%20worldwide.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:43 AM
@AnEye - thanks for the valuable insight, friend.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:44 AM
@AllsGood - cool, now where's the data supporting it?
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 9:47 AM
@Irregular - please re read my top quote. Plus you're yelling at the clouds cause as I said, I'm not American.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/25/2025, 9:51 AM
@Fogs - For your MAGA Tears

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Irregular
Irregular - 7/25/2025, 9:53 AM
@Fogs - Then why bother commenting whether or not it's true or not?

It's already painfully obvious you are American lol.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 10:46 AM
@AllsGood - hahaha what the hell how many times do I need to say I'm not american? Couldn't care less about trump. Some of you are missing the point and really should re read my otiginal quote which is NOT what's in the edited article now.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 10:49 AM
@Irregular - Whatever rocks your boat, bro... if you think you know more about my nationality than myself, guess I don'thave too much to do about it.

Point is, the way it was written (it's in my orig comment, NOT what's in the edited article now) bothered me. I have a good sense on when people insert their opinions as facts, and have all the right to talk about it, right?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2025, 10:50 AM
@Bucky74 - The American way bit hasn't been included in Superman's mantra at any point, comics or onscreen, since he started getting live action TV shows again back end of the 20th century.

I am not saying Gunn didn't intentionaly opt not to bring it back but it hasn't been a thing for the character in at least 30yrs as don't think it was EVER used in 93' onwards Lois & Clark far as I am aware and certainly never since 2000.

Then again never watched Superman Returns so that may be an exception as supposed to be canon to the Donner films where it was first introduced in a film or show, before that it was only in a radio play thingie, don't think any of the animated shows used it either but not seen ALL of those.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 10:51 AM
@JoshWilding - btw Josh, I apologize for the "dumb" in my orig comment. It was a bad choice of words.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 11:06 AM
@Apophis71 - It’s still a more modern subtraction from the lore. I think Returned even had him say it. Superman was created by two Jewish immigrants who were proud Americans. Supes is an American hero through and through raised on midwestern American values of truth, justice, and the American way, which celebrates American exceptionalism as an example for the world to aspire to. I like that interpretation the most and Gunn’s film seemed to go out of its way to avoid that and project his political views IMO.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2025, 11:16 AM
@Bucky74 - Non of the stories written by the two Jewish immigrants ever included 'The American way' either, that was added in the comics AFTER the Radio play first came up with it (yup, didn't even originate with ANY writers in ANY of his comics, was a loose adaption for Radio first) and the Donner films used it.

Everything else you stated only highlights exactly why many outside the US consider him excessively wrapped in the American flag and the US national ego, and I am not saying that is a bad thing for the character at all but why he is always more likely to have more popularity in the states compared to anywhere else (and I LOVE Superman and NOT American).
Astroman
Astroman - 7/25/2025, 12:11 PM
@Apophis71 - all of this is spot on.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 1:19 PM
@Apophis71 - I agree there. Like Captain Britain, though, I believe he should be an unabashedly patriotic character at heart, representing his new homeland (America/Kansas).
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 1:22 PM
@SpiderParker - Lol, all those are hyper-biased, anti-Trump propaganda outlets. And I'll take a strong President who "bullies other nations" (to America's benefit) over a corpse who gave the farm away and bowed to globalists any day!
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 1:29 PM
@SpiderParker - See, I can do the same...



https://www.foxnews.com/video/6375935036112
captainwalker
captainwalker - 7/25/2025, 1:42 PM
@Fogs - I thought the ant-American sentiment was because our government is basically a bunch of satanic pedophiles being blackmailed by the CIA and the mossad to perpetuate neverending wars for israel.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 7/25/2025, 1:44 PM
@Bucky74 - I guess, you didn't open the links. Those are world news that I linked. You are just sharing American opinion. Let me know when you find a country that is speaking well about Trump or its administration.

'A strong -insert designation here- who "bullies other nations" to its benefit'
Yeah, I have heard that before but the world never likes that guy or that nation.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 7/25/2025, 2:09 PM
@SpiderParker - There is a major difference between a businessman who uses the power of American trade deals to coerce a better financial arrangement and the little guy with the funny mustache. Conflating that is insane. Trump does not apologise for putting his nation first. We are done bowing to China. We should all celebrate that.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 7/25/2025, 2:52 PM
@Bucky74 - Sure, even though it is a big question if his policies will actually help US or drive it further down in debt, but the question here was if other countries have a negative opinion about America right now which it does and hence I gave the data to prove so whether you think what he is doing is right or not is besides the point.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/25/2025, 3:45 PM
@Fogs - WHY Did you even post your first comment than.

Stupid comment to Even post
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