FANTASTIC FOUR: Marvel Studios Rumored To Be Introducing Gender-Swapped Silver Surfer In MCU Reboot

FANTASTIC FOUR: Marvel Studios Rumored To Be Introducing Gender-Swapped Silver Surfer In MCU Reboot

There have already been rumblings about Marvel Studios' Fantastic Four reboot featuring a female Herald for Galactus, but it's now said that we're getting a female Silver Surfer. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Nov 09, 2023 08:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

With the SAG-AFTRA strike finally over, we're expecting a lot of big casting news to break in the coming weeks (if not days). James Gunn needs to finish putting together Superman: Legacy's ensemble after choosing the reboot's leads, of course, but it's Fantastic Four we know many of you are most interested in. 

According to John Rocha and Jeff Sneider on The Hot Mic podcast, the actors who will play Marvel's First Family in the MCU should be announced by the end of next week. 

Sneider reiterates recent claims that Spider-Man: Far From Home star Jake Gyllenhaal is the current frontrunner to play Mister Fantastic, with Vanessa Kirby likely to take on the role of the Invisible Woman. Ebon Moss-Bachrach may be a lock for The Thing, though plans for the Human Torch remain unclear. 

His co-host, however, has heard that one of the actors who was eyed for Reed Richards very early on is once again interested after reading the latest draft of Fantastic Four's screenplay. This person is supposedly used to sharing the spotlight with female leads and that sounds an awful lot like Adam Driver to us. We'll see. 

The big news, however, is that Marvel Studios is looking to cast a woman as Galactus' Herald: a gender-swapped version of Silver Surfer who, yes, will be a woman. 

There has been a female version of the character on the page (called Juno), though we're guessing the MCU's version could be a mashup of Norrin Radd and Frankie Raye. The latter was a supporting character in the Fantastic Four comics who later became the Herald known as "Nova."

Fantastic Four director Matt Shakman recently teased his approach to the movie by saying he plans on "doing things very differently from a story standpoint" and "[a] filmmaking standpoint that really fits the material." He'd go on to add, "I think it's going to be unlike anything you've seen before, and certainly unlike anything at Marvel that you've seen before."

"It's a dream of mine to be able to work on that. I've loved those characters since I was little. It's such an awesome world to be in. The script is awesome, the characters are brilliant. I'm super excited."

Shakman has worked with both Avatar: The Way of Water co-writer Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Cam Squires on a draft of Fantastic Four's screenplay. 

The movie is currently scheduled to be released in theaters on May 2, 2025. 

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DarkeyeZ
DarkeyeZ - 11/9/2023, 8:51 PM
Let's the rage fueled nerd hate being, lol. I honestly think that the main reason for companies to do gender swaps in movies is so that all the hate filled sexist virgins will get so upset at it that they will suffer heart attacks and die, leaving the world a better place without their presence.
Tpo81
Tpo81 - 11/9/2023, 9:01 PM
@DarkeyeZ - there's the rage filled nerds and then there's the ones that are the first to comment on said rage nerds before they appear. I honestly don't know who's more annoying
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 9:06 PM
@DarkeyeZ - Sinful humans being in the world, sexist or not, won't make the world a better place by themselves, and all normal humans are sinners.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/9/2023, 9:09 PM
@Tpo81 - I'm much more annoyed at the Heralds of the rage nerds....



...that being said:




Origame
Origame - 11/9/2023, 9:51 PM
@DarkeyeZ - have you seen the recent box office results from disney over these choices? Pretty sure disney will die long before anyone who doesn't like it will 🤣
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/10/2023, 12:49 AM
@DarkeyeZ - First of all, I'm willing to bet that the "source" of this news is just an idiot latching onto the rumor thay Galactus will have a female herald. Which is fine. Galactus has had female heralds before. I'm betting this "source" doesn't realize that Galactus has had other heralds other than Silver Surfer and he's just putting 2 and 2 together and claiming Silver Surfer will be a woman.

Why? Because for one, I highly doubt Disney would have a naked woman with Silver skin in a movie. Even if they put her in a bikini thing thats also Silver. They would probably see that as objectifying women. So there's that.

But also, they've got to realize how many fans would be pissed by this. And no, that doesn't make fans "hate filled, sexist virgins". That idea is completely insane. There's no reason to gender swap Silver Surfer. He's a fan favorite character for God's sake. It's not sexist or hateful to want a popular character to be done correctly. If they want to have a female herald, then use one of Galactus' female heralds lol. Why gender swap an iconic character like Surfer?

I honestly don't know how anyone could support that.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 11/10/2023, 6:36 AM
@DarkeyeZ - If anyone is hate filled, it's you with such despicable comment, your just shielding it behind the idea you're defending a virtual morality.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 11/9/2023, 8:53 PM
🤣😜
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 9:05 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - Whose gay here?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/9/2023, 9:11 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - this guy gets it.
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 11/9/2023, 9:49 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - I'm loving the new NPC personality dlc 😆
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 11/10/2023, 9:26 AM
@dagenspear - Didn't you see Mark's article about Captain Marvel being gay yesterday?

I guess people here just assume if it's a strong female on screen they must be gay, even if the movie never states it.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 11/9/2023, 8:53 PM
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 9:07 PM
@philinterrupted - About what?
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 11/9/2023, 9:32 PM
@dagenspear - all the people that would be upset by this.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/9/2023, 11:51 PM
@philinterrupted - shocker for comic fans to be upset about not getting Norrin Rad as Silver Surfer. Superbly shocking.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 11/9/2023, 8:56 PM
I wouldn't mind a female herald. But as for a gender-swapped Surfer...why? I think there would need to be reason or something that makes more sense in the story for Surfer to be a woman. Otherwise, why not just keep Norrin Radd? He's one of my favorite characters in the comics, so I'd rather not abandon him without good reason.
Origame
Origame - 11/9/2023, 9:54 PM
@SheepishOne - thats been exactly my point with all these race and gender swaps. Like, what does it add? Why can't we have the character as is? You can easily find a female herald for the movie, or even make one up.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 11/9/2023, 9:57 PM
@BiggieMac4Sauce - Raw sauce
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/10/2023, 12:37 AM
@Origame - No dude. You don't have a point other than being a bigot lol. Isn't that the narrative?

Seriously though, I don't know how ANYONE could support this if this is true.
DiegoMD
DiegoMD - 11/9/2023, 8:58 PM
If you want to cast a woman as Galactus' Herald just introduce Nova / Frankie Raye. Gender swapping Silver Surfer won't go over well and will only bring on controversy (which Marvel really doesn't need right now.)

bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/9/2023, 9:00 PM
Hahaha
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/9/2023, 9:01 PM
ohhh and let me guess, she'll be flatter then her surfboard because big silver space b00b1e5 in "current year" is a no no.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 9:07 PM
@harryba11zack - Does not seeing boobs bother you?
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/9/2023, 9:11 PM
@dagenspear - I Think bigger is better and if they aren't gonna bother to stick to the original source material with Norrin Radd then at least its a fair compromise.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 9:16 PM
@harryba11zack - just for you? I think I can live without it.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 11/9/2023, 10:26 PM
@dagenspear - does not seeing boobs not bother you? Ohhh... you're one of THOSE guys.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/9/2023, 10:49 PM
@Comicmoviejunki - Not much. I'm a devout Christian. LORD willing, I don't see meaning in engaging with lustful imagery.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 11/9/2023, 11:42 PM
@dagenspear - my apologies good sir. My hope is to be as focused as you with my Christianity.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 11/10/2023, 1:46 AM
@Comicmoviejunki - Not to presume what God wants for me. I just don't think making a thing out of seeing boobs in fiction or not is needed, especially as a believer. Not to say I have no interest in that at all, more that as a Christian I think making a thing out of not seeing it doesn't align with what God wants of us.
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