THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Breaks Down Post-Credits Scene And Whether [SPOILER] Was On Set As [SPOILER]

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Breaks Down Post-Credits Scene And Whether [SPOILER] Was On Set As [SPOILER]

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman has broken down the movie's post-credits scene, weighing on whether a certain actor was on set and why he handed the reins to the Russo Brothers...

By JoshWilding - Jul 25, 2025 01:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Entertainment Weekly

The Fantastic Four: First Steps has finally touched down in theaters, and like Thunderbolts* before it, the movie features a must-see post-credits scene that sets the stage for Avengers: Doomsday

Four years after the main story ends, Sue is reading to her son, Franklin, and goes to get him another book. However, she hears a noise coming from the room he's in and finds Doctor Doom kneeling in front of the child, mask in hand. 

Is he attempting to get Franklin to heal his scarred face, or does Victor Von Doom have other nefarious plans for the son of Mister Fantastic and the Invisible Woman? After all, the Power Cosmic will likely be key to whatever Doom has planned for the Multiverse. 

Talking to Entertainment Weekly, The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman was asked the question on everyone's mind: was that Robert Downey Jr. in the cloak? 

The scene was shot by the Russo Brothers on the set of Avengers: Doomsday, but Shakman simply replied, "[That's] for others to talk about."

We'd imagine he wasn't present, unless there's much more to the scene and this was just a shorter version of a sequence we'll see in Avengers: Doomsday next December.

Elaborating on how the scene was shot, Shakman shared, "The Russos did end up directing that [Thunderbolts*] post-credits scene, and they also did the one for this movie as well. Just because they were done during the production of Avengers: Doomsday. You've got all those actors there, you've got those sets there, it just makes sense."

"That's one of the things that other movies have done — they've often used Doctor Doom," he said of the villain's surprise debut. "Doctor Doom is an amazing character, and he's coming, as we all know. For us, it felt like, let's start where you can focus on these four amazing characters — Galactus is awesome too, but he's a giant cosmic threat, he's unknowable — and save Doom for a little later."

The Fantastic Four will battle Doom in Avengers: Doomsday, though whether the villain hails from their reality isn't clear. We also don't know if Earth-828's version of Marvel's First Family has even met Doom before now, but we know Sue will go to any lengths to protect her son, making any clash extremely personal.

A new TV spot for The Fantastic Four: First Steps has also been released. You can watch that in the players below.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/25/2025, 1:26 PM
it was this level of shit, once again marvel steals from synder cut
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DSAC294
DSAC294 - 7/25/2025, 1:31 PM
@harryba11zack - not even the neighbor kid making movies on his phone using his action figures would steal anything from the Snydercut.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/25/2025, 1:41 PM
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Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 4:52 PM
@DSAC294 - haha savage
Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 4:56 PM
@harryba11zack

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/25/2025, 5:51 PM
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Fogs
Fogs - 7/25/2025, 5:58 PM
@harryba11zack - Relax, just joking. I remember that quote at the time.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/25/2025, 1:31 PM
You could tell it was shot by someone else since the picture frame or visuals themselves looked different , more crisper I feel so not surprised it was The Russos…

I’m glad Shakman & co went the route they did with using Galactus as the main antagonist rather then Doom since as he said that while the character is cool (he looked great and Ralph Ineson did well with the limited screen time he had) , he is more of a cosmic force who we don’t need to know more about aside from his motivation and such which is fairly simple in that he’s endlessly hungry so then it gives you the time to focus on others , especially the main four who we’ll see more if in the immediate future.

Anyway regardless of how people still feel about RDJ playing Doctor Doom now , I am personally excited to see it moreso then not since I do still have concerns that have more to do with the longevity of the character then anything else.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 7/25/2025, 1:31 PM
Can't imagine they would have paid to have Downey for that.

I mean, this shot from the end of Iron Man 3 isn't even Downey.

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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 1:50 PM
@IAmAHoot - i dont think there is extra payment to be done as they are shooting doomsday atm

They shouldve shown a front view of the face with the mask on. What we got is bad
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/25/2025, 1:57 PM
@IAmAHoot - now that you mentioned ...i Always thought he looks to tall on that shot
Canyoublush
Canyoublush - 7/25/2025, 1:58 PM
@vectorsigma - What’s this obsession with the end credits scene? It’s not that deep. Sure it wasn’t the best end credits tease that we’ve got but in the grand scheme of things, it served its purpose. Could it be better? Sure. Does it matter in the long run? Nope.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/25/2025, 2:03 PM
@IAmAHoot - It will likely only be RDJ if it is one scene actualy from Doomsday where you first see his face, otherwise likely not him and a body double. I mean Downey IS being paid to be in Doomsday thus if a scene from that film it would not cost more in wages to use it in a prior film.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 2:15 PM
@Canyoublush - dude, it matters a lot because they are introducing Doom.

Seeing that scene didnt give him any sense of dread that says "im the new big bad"

Another thing is the russos not being able to execute it well. Why did this end up like this???

And why do you think it doesnt matter? Ive seen multiple arricles talking about it already. And it is the first time doom is introduced to the world.

Thanos was well known today because of that first postcredit scene we had of him. So this was supposed to be.important
gulducati
gulducati - 7/25/2025, 3:55 PM
@IAmAHoot - RDJ gets box office percentage on Doomsday, so it makes sense for him to do whatever he can to hype up the next Avengers film. Also, it was done on the set of Doomsday, so it could be an actual scene from that film.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 7/25/2025, 8:12 PM
@gulducati - They still use doubles on set when the actor isn't strictly needed.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/25/2025, 1:34 PM
I actually wish Disney would take more time to build up to Doomsday! they are introducing new characters that are iconic and i would like to spend more time with them in follow up films.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/25/2025, 6:45 PM
@Forthas - By iconic I do hope you mean FF not Ironheart.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/25/2025, 1:42 PM
They nerfed Reed's intelligence and power set far too much for this film to get more than a 7/10 for me. Reed in any way believing teleporting Earth would result in anything but a disaster for its entire populace is insane. There's a reason Reed always refused such a feat in the comics.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/25/2025, 3:10 PM
@McMurdo - How is moving Earth a bad idea?
Laridian
Laridian - 7/25/2025, 3:36 PM
@McMurdo - How did they nerf Reed's intelligence. He [frick]ing outsmarted the Silver Surfer in the first fight and then outsmarted Galactus at the end. Also, you don't know that teleporting Earth wouldn't have worked. It would have if the Surfer hadn't [frick]ed it up. If you're concerned about the relationship to the sun, I'm sure he took that into consideration. The man was off the charts smart in this flick.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/25/2025, 6:23 PM
@Laridian - he didn't outsmart anyone outside of his black hole bit. His plan fails. Twice. Sue is the sole reason earth is saved. I mean why Reed thought a "baby swap" would work when they witness Galactus scanning Sue's belly when they arrive at his ship is beyond me. And thus, his second plan falls apart. Galactus sees right through it. Don't get me started on teleporting earth. Reed would never even consider that an option in the literature because everyone would die. Reed was being pulled apart at the seems in Galactus' hands....not a thing in the comics. Reed covers all of Manhattan in the Waid run. They nerfed him hard.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/25/2025, 7:41 PM
@BlackStar25 - is that a serious question? Or you being facetious
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/25/2025, 8:11 PM
@McMurdo - Very serious question.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/25/2025, 8:18 PM
@Laridian - Not only the Earth was moved. The Moon was too. He also planned to move it where a Sun is. Its all depicted onscreen in the movie.
Laridian
Laridian - 7/25/2025, 8:39 PM
@McMurdo - Damn, why are you pressed? His plan almost worked. You couldn't have come up with it. Why would teleporting Earth kill everyone, like give me the scientific reason? Also, canon says he can stretch 1500 feet before he starts feeling pain, and his suit was ripping not him. Don't do that thing where you only focus on the last thing I said. That's [frick]ing annoying.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/25/2025, 9:44 PM
@BlackStar25 - earth orbits the sun at roughly 30 km/s. That's 67,000 mph. Teleporting the earth would mean an immediate sudden change in velocity and trajectory. The inertia jolt would be catastrophic. Think slamming a car into a wall at hypersonic speeds. Earth's biosphere is finely tuned to our sun's radiation mix. So even if this new sun in a new goldilocks zone allows for liquid water, the potential for higher UV and X ray radiation is extremely significant. The atmosphere isn't gravitationally glued like rock. It's delicate and would almost certainly partially or fully sheer off due to the inertia which means breathable air is now no longer an option. Temperatures plummet and apocalyptic loss of life in mere minutes.


It's something comic book Reed always argued wasn't an option when he needed to move and protect whole peoples from catastrophe because of the science. This plotline proves these 4 writers really missed the mark on Reed as this is just completely a position he would never take, because Reed is a scientific genius.

Not to mention considering they just figured out space travel in the film 4 years prior, teleporting earth is a hilarious jump.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/25/2025, 9:47 PM
@Laridian - wait pressed?? 😆 I think you misread. I'm simply responding to your comment. I am sorry if I offended you dude. The science is above BlackStar asked that same question so won't reiterate again as you'll see it above this comment.
Laridian
Laridian - 7/25/2025, 10:57 PM
@McMurdo - So, which is it? Is Reed too dumb to realize what you already know about physics or is he smart enough to have considered all of that and make the adjustments needed to avoid this problem? You say he wasn't written smart enough, I think it's more likely you aren't on the same level as Reed and don't understand how he made this work.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 7/25/2025, 11:28 PM
@McMurdo - I just finished my review. It should be up by Sunday morning.
Robby
Robby - 7/25/2025, 1:45 PM
This movie blew
Thing94
Thing94 - 7/25/2025, 1:52 PM
@Robby - Huh?
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 1:45 PM
This postctedit scene, if indeed was directed by the Russos, solidifies my belief they are not good directors.

It was awful imo. The film was great but this doom scene just felt bad. Execution was really bad.

Good luck convincing the general audience that this is a big bad like thanos.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 7/25/2025, 1:52 PM
@vectorsigma - it was just really basic and Doom feels so insanely rushed. It feels like they were hyping up the World Series for an entire season and then right when Game 1 is supposed to start, it's a tennis match instead...
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 2:01 PM
@TheFinestSmack - lolz, that is a great analogy!

Thanos was introduced really well in the Avengers postcredit scene. And add to that the slow and effective buildup through the course of 3 phases.

For Doom, all we have is this. And Doomsday is next December.

It wouldve helped if this was executed as good as the Thanos post credit scene.
kg8817
kg8817 - 7/25/2025, 3:40 PM
@vectorsigma - We’ll have the post credit scene for Brand New Day before Doomsday.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 7/25/2025, 5:31 PM
@vectorsigma - I guess the infinity stones we're perhaps set up better than Thanos was, so they may be able to use the multiverse stuff in that same way, but Doom as a threat just comes out of nowhere.
Moltenman
Moltenman - 7/25/2025, 9:00 PM
@vectorsigma - I am al title confused because the first time Thanos spoke was AoU and he said if a job needs doing do it yourself. He had no knowledge of Ultron so it didn’t make any sense however it did give the sense of an overarching threat. Maybe my memory is foggy.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 9:16 PM
@Moltenman - i was referring to the first appearance on avengers 1.

He didnt speak but it was obvious he was loki's "boss"
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/25/2025, 9:16 PM
@kg8817 - still very little time to make doom compelling

Thanos had 3 phases to develop
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