Ror Reviews: Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2

Ror Reviews: Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2

Never read the books, only a casual fan of the movies. Click for my take on the final installment of the phenomenon that is the Harry Potter franchise. There will be Spoilers..

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Jul 17, 2011 04:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantasy

I'm not a big Harry Potter fan. Read the first book, enjoyed it but not enough to want to keep reading. I have seen all of the movies but not in sequence, and although I enjoyed some I disliked, even hated one or two also. But one I did enjoy, very much in fact, was last year's penultimate installment which sets up this grand finale. I thought director David Yates did a great job eliciting genuine and engaging performances from the three leads, something I felt was largely absent from all previous movies.


So does he continue his good work with this last movie? Well, yes, but while his previous film felt quite slow and a bit dragged out at times this one suffers from the opposite. At just over 2 hours the shortest of the series really feels it. Because the final book was split into two movies we get what is basically a race to the finish line here. Now this is great for exciting action scenes, but it also means the story , as well as some supporting character's suffer for it at the same time. After a very effective opening scene featuring Snape watching students being herded into Hogwarts by Dementors we begin straight after events of the last movie. Potter, Hermione and Ron bury poor Dobby the elf and continue on their mission to destroy the remaining Horcruxes which contain fragments of Voldemort's soul. There is a great bank heist set piece but then it's pretty much straight into siege movie territory, as the remainder of the action takes place in Hogwarts with our heroes battling to defend the school, and themselves, from annihilation. Along the way, destinies are realized, romances blossom, people die, good wins out(or course). And it's all very exciting and emotional. Kind of.

See the problem for me was that what were clearly supposed to be the big emotional sucker punches in the story didn't really work. Now you might say "Well that's because you're not a fan, don't love the characters" etc etc, but you see had I loved them I would have been more annoyed! I'm sure you know that there are several pretty significant deaths in the movie. A few supporting, but important character are killed in the attack on Hogwarts. But we don't see it. We see them lying dead and everybody is sad but this is a wasted opportunity to turn the peril and dramatic stakes up to 11. It's almost as if they were an afterthought. And time is no excuse, Yates didn't mind sticking every last shot of characters walking across mountains that he could shove into the last movie. I don't see how adding another fight sequence or two would have hurt this one. And then we have the "twist". So it turns out Snape is a good guy after all. He is killed by Voldemort. Should be all sad and redemptive and emotional right? Well maybe it would have been but the big revelation comes AFTER he is dead. Now if you read the books and knew this was coming, fine. But what if you hadn't? Seems like putting the cart before the horse to me. Despite that, Alan Rickman's performance and the flash back we get mean it does have some impact, just not as much as it could have had imo.


Now this stuff didn't ruin the movie for me because it is after all Harry's story and with him and his journey I was invested. Thanks in no small part to another great performance from Daniel Radcliffe. He is in practically every scene and the action only slows down for him in brief moments while he is searching the castle etc. Unfortunately this means that his two co-stars don't get a whole lot to do. Ron and Hermione's biggest contribution to this story is that they finally kiss. Even Neville Longbottom get's more to do. Again, not a deal breaker for me as I don't particularly like Ron as a character and Hermione I could take or leave. Still, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson give decent performances, Watson actually very good. And as I mentioned, Matthew Lewis as Neville really comes into his own as a total bad-ass. And as the personification of evil, Ralph Feinnes is once again on form as Voldemort. Having a much larger role here than in any previous movie. We also get pretty much every character, alive or dead, popping up for cameos. Which is cool, but when great characters like Helena Bonham Carter's Bellatrix Lestrange get sweet [frick] all do do except simper and die you start to feel maybe a few too many familiar faces were shoe horned in.

But what about the action I hear you ask? This is after all the last battle, surely we can expect some epic clashes? Yep, in that regard it does not disappoint. The entire siege on Hogwarts is handled brilliantly. And the special effects are second to none. Dementors, Trolls, Stone Warriors all clash while our heroes race around with their wands flashing left right and center. It's great stuff, and builds to a very satisfying face off between Harry and Voldemort(except I hate the whole he dies and comes back to life crap). But I think my favorite scene is the epilogue, set 19 years later. For me it just seems like the most poignant part of the story and the actors all play it brilliantly.

I enjoyed the movie, just not quite as much as the last one even with the added action this time. If you are a big fan I'm sure you will get more out of it and maybe, lets be honest, gloss over a few of the problems. But still, a satisfying enough ending to the franchise and along with Deathly Hallows part 1 by far my favorites in the series.

Oh, and I can't comment on the 3D because I decided to skip it on the advice of quite a few people. 2D was just fine.






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AmonWarmann
AmonWarmann - 7/17/2011, 4:50 AM
Nice review!
kaka0002
kaka0002 - 7/17/2011, 4:58 AM
herry potter is suck!!
PartyHard
PartyHard - 7/17/2011, 5:02 AM
I thought the wizard battles were really uninspired. I expected some more creative use of magic, instead of just throwing lights at each other. Like the awesome Dumbledore vs. Voldemort fight.
Roscoe182
Roscoe182 - 7/17/2011, 5:10 AM
i agree with the review. i think they tried to make an epic last battle like in LOTR just didn't do aswell. still very much worth a watch but the last film is a bit better.
YourMomNaked
YourMomNaked - 7/17/2011, 5:15 AM
I too have never read the books and only liked some of the films (particularly the last few). I thoroughly enjoyed the final film! Harry Potter's final journey isn't as predictable as most conclusions go. Sure, good triumphs over evil, but the twist and turns were unexpected (at least to this muggle). The FX were awesome, specifically the albino dragon looked gorgeous (has me tingling in anticipation for The Hobbits Smaug). The pacing and story line moved well and the acting and dialogue were done well enough for a film of this type (in other words, no overtly bad scenes). The white train station scene had be a bit confused, but I hadn't read the book and I have to assume it was made clearer in its written form. Easily Hollows Pt. 2 was my summer favorite. 4 outta 5...recommended!
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 7/17/2011, 5:18 AM
I agree. Dumbledore vs. Voldemor was sick and unique from other wizard battles.

I think some of the important characters deaths were anticlimactic. But I guess there was enough tears in the theater as it was without bringing exclusive attention to Fred, Lupin and wife's death. There were some great moments though. Longbottom.

I'd like to see P1 and P2 as a whole.

Beautiful films.
Robe
Robe - 7/17/2011, 5:37 AM
Great movie, however as usual stuff gets left out. In the book Fred's death is a dramatic and shocking moment you don't expect however re Lupin and Tonks it is the same as the movie.
localman
localman - 7/17/2011, 6:04 AM
The perspective on this film from someone who has read the books is uite a bit different. Overall, the film was good but left out a few things that should have been there. The Book had a lot more about Dumbledore's character and Abelforth. The book had a lot more of an effect on the death of the three characters, and a lot more about Resurrection Stone. The "cameo" apprearances were actually quite important. The white train station explained a lot of what was going on and why things had to happen.

One scene I was really looking forward to was not as good as I had hoped. The scene where Mrs. Weasley, overcome with grief over the death of Fred, sees Bella attacking Ginnie and says, "Get away from my daughter, you bitch!" The book makes it a great moment of a protective mother kicking ass to protect her kid, and it is a major battle. The film just zipped through it and didn't set it up right.

There were a few scenes in the movie not in the books, like the Harry and Voldemort falling off the castle walls together scene. I didn't like that one, not because it wasn't in the book, but because it was not consistant with the other action. Voldemort could fly without any aid, but Harry couldn't.
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 7/17/2011, 6:09 AM
The Snape thing was done on purpose cuz you were suppose to feel happy about him dying since he was a douche. Then you realize that he was a good guy all along and it makes you feel like a douche lol
WruceBane
WruceBane - 7/17/2011, 6:10 AM
Ror,
actually a great review. i am not a huge fan, but i had always been entertained by the movies and was finally convinced by several friends and family members to read the books.

this last installment i thought was very well done, and from someone who has read and watched the series, your criticism is pretty dead on.

overall i thought it was a good end to a good series. but my favorite will still be half blood prince, i think its the perfect harry potter film, if you're to consider the balance of performance with story and action.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 7/17/2011, 6:11 AM
See I wouldn't have copped any of that, but I knew some stuff was being glossed over. I also didn't get some things. Like why was harry able to come back to life? He gets a choice but nobody else does? Is that explained better in the book or is it just a bit of silliness?
WruceBane
WruceBane - 7/17/2011, 6:13 AM
and re: the snape thing....

in the book it is done in much the same way, and i felt like this was a failing of the story -- i wanted something, anything, in the books to lead up to snape's storyline...you know, foreshadowing, like they do in real literature, but it was kind of sprung on you at the last second. he ends up being one of my favorite characters, but you definitely feel a little cheated out of his story.
WruceBane
WruceBane - 7/17/2011, 6:17 AM
it isn't explained really at all.

i supposed its for the reason that harry's kind of tainted with voldemort's essence, so when voldemort's killing harry, he's really just cleaning him out. its all a bit weird, and you're more or less just supposed to go with the flow of the story, is what it seems like. i mean, there's a reasoning there if you want to work it out, but you're right, it doesn't make complete sense from a certain standpoint.
antifanboyequation
antifanboyequation - 7/17/2011, 6:19 AM
Great review. Spot on!

This movie (while altogether pretty good) seemed like a checklist at times. Meet Dumbledore's brother...check, kill Bellatrix...check, Fred dead...check, etc. Not so much emotional impact perhaps as the books (only the first of which I have read). 3D was decent, not too much "gratuitous 3D."
WruceBane
WruceBane - 7/17/2011, 6:22 AM
this won't make me sound like the non-fan i claim to be, but really, the books are pretty decent...as long as you start with the third one. the first two movies are pretty much direct translations of the books, and the stakes don't really start to get raised until prisoner of azkhaban.
seaman
seaman - 7/17/2011, 6:30 AM
i went to go see this yesterday and i thought it was great i have been a potter fan from being little and have grown up with them (im same age as emma watson), and being from britain i think its great that we now have this as massive part of our world (even if it is fantasy) it will be sorely missed by many and the movies themselves will be treasured.
JOOSWOGGLE
JOOSWOGGLE - 7/17/2011, 6:34 AM
@rormachine, the reason that he is given the choice is because it was also a part of volamorts soul in his so the choice was does he let him and voldamorts soul die or let voldamorts soul die and him face voldermort. the avra kadavra curse is something that could kill a hourcrux as its a ultimate killing curse
AC1
AC1 - 7/17/2011, 6:35 AM
@Ror I actually agree with most of what you said. I read the books and loved them, and I also loved the films. So this one really should have basically left me in tears. The book ends with a great sense of relief and sadness over the fact that the journey has ended. But the movie's ending, if it wasnt for the epilogue, would have left me expecting another film.
Snape was by far the sadest bit in the film, I felt so sorry for the man who was once my least favourite character. And yes, the fighting is immense.

I do think that while maybe one or two of the deaths should have been seen, the way we see it from Harry's point of view, where they die off screen, adds to the guilt Harry has IMO.
And as for his resurrection, that's because Voldemort accidentally turned him into a Horcrux when he was a baby. So Voldemort only killed the Horcrux, but not Harry himself.

I was kinda pissed when I left though, because in shortening the last film, they leave out some small but important things. Like in the book, Harry uses the Elder wand to repair his old wand, but in the film, he snaps it and throws it away. There are some others but I cant remember them off the top of my head. Small things, but they had enough time to include them.

Maybe I need to see it again to truly appreciate it.
AC1
AC1 - 7/17/2011, 6:46 AM
I hope they release Parts 1 and 2 as a single film, I think it'd be a major improvement to watch them both as a single streaming movie
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/17/2011, 6:49 AM
Gandalf vs Dumbledore:
InFamouslyCool
InFamouslyCool - 7/17/2011, 7:40 AM
this shit will probably be #1 for 3 weeks.
patriautism
patriautism - 7/17/2011, 7:56 AM
They didn't explain Harry's Reconstruction in the movie, But Harry never actually died.
Do you remember what they said about the owner of all 3 Hallows? He is a master of death..
When Voldemort used Harry's blood to return to living form ( Goblet of Fire), he took a bit of his mothers protective magic within himself.
When he shot Harry with the Killing curse, the blood magic protected him, and Harry being the true owner of the Elder wand in which Voldemort used to cast the killing curse, also protected him. With those factors Harry 's soul was shielded, and the killing curse just killed the part of Voldemort's soul that lived in Harry.
Remember at the end when Voldemort's own curse rebounded? That is because the part of Voldy's soul was no longer there in Harry so the wand wouldn't attack Harry at all, so it rebounded on it's user.
patriautism
patriautism - 7/17/2011, 8:03 AM
reconstruction = resurrection..sorry
StingrayX
StingrayX - 7/17/2011, 8:38 AM
I am not a major Harry Potter fan, but it was kind of sad seeing it end...it was all about the midnight showing...so much fun.
YourMomNaked
YourMomNaked - 7/17/2011, 8:44 AM
@patriautism...thanks for the insight!
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 7/17/2011, 9:08 AM
This was an excellent movie. Loved every minute of it.

great stuff, ROR.
killzonev2
killzonev2 - 7/17/2011, 11:07 AM
harry twatter is gay
killzonev2
killzonev2 - 7/17/2011, 11:07 AM
harry twatter is gay
localman
localman - 7/17/2011, 12:22 PM
There were a lot of things left out that would have really added to the film . . . a redemed Kreacher leading the Hogsworts House Elves to defend the school; the centaurs coming to fight from the Forbidden Forest (They showed the spiders for the bad guys, why not the centaurs helping the good guys?); Grawp (Hagrid's giant half brother) coming to the rescue against the giants helping the Death Eaters.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 7/17/2011, 2:57 PM
Good review Ror. I agree with most of it but I just didn't seem to mind the few detriments as much as you did. I also thought the Snape reveal was done the right way as you are supposed to hate him and want to see him killed off and are supposed to be glad at his demise, then you get the big surprise when you find out his true motivations. I loved it, although I did see some sort of redemption coming his way, just not to that degree of course.

Overall, I really liked the movie, maybe even more than any other big movie that has come out so far this year. It definitely had the most at stake.
Luigi
Luigi - 7/17/2011, 10:08 PM
I was so excited to see this so I could finally see The Dark Knight Rises teaser. I think Warner Bros removed that too :'( Besides that, the movie was fine
MoonDoggyX
MoonDoggyX - 7/17/2011, 10:55 PM
Great review. I agree with almost all of your gripes, but ya gotta remember, its still somewhat of a kids movie. Having it written in the books is one thing, but actually showing the deaths of about a third of the supporting cast on screen would have been a bit violent for the target demographic. But as a grown up, I agree with ya that those scenes woulda made the movie better. I too think the battles they did show could've been better/more epic, but again kids movie, a great LOTR battle is out of the question...
mok
mok - 7/18/2011, 3:49 AM
nice review Ror
You've got to give credit really to David Yates. He has too much material to consider and he has got to condense the 7th book, which is why we don't get to see a lot of the very interesting parts. It feels disappointing though that they did not present in much detail the death of Fred which (after Hedwig's and Dobby's) created the most emotions IMHO. Snape's part was brilliantly shown, however. Much of the emotions focus on the principal characters though, (Harry and Voldemort) which is understandable. The actions may be wanting and even some parts are changed dramatically (e.g. Snape vs Mcgonagall, the ravenclaw tower, Harry's not using the Invisibility Cloak during the Forest encounter, and even the final duel) but overall it was a very decent attempt to showcase the end of the series. Kudos to you Ror for a wonderful review, yet again.
Shieldofpower
Shieldofpower - 7/18/2011, 6:05 PM
Ror, the Snape part is in the book. If you had read it, you would have understood the meaning behind everything more. ;)
Shieldofpower
Shieldofpower - 7/18/2011, 6:08 PM
.. oh, and the part where he dies and comes back to life is not crap, did you know that Harry was a horcrux? It wasn't explained much in the film, but when that scene comes, it's his horcrux being destroyed. The part where he comes back is him without Voldemort's power.
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