EDITORIAL: We Will Never Forget You, Edward Norton!

EDITORIAL: We Will Never Forget You, Edward Norton!

Come and read how we will never forget Edward Norton's portrayal of Bruce Banner/The Incredible Hulk. If you would like, could you please come and pay your respects to the guy.

Editorial Opinion
By OriginalPhysco - Jul 28, 2010 03:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Hulk

We will never forget you Edward Norton!



On June 20, 2003, the first live action movie of the hulk came out. The movie starred Eric Bana as Bruce Banner and Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross. Edward Norton had expressed interest in the role of Bruce Banner for the first film. He initially turned down the part for this film, recalling "there was the wince factor or the defensive part of you that recoils at what the bad version of what that would be", as he felt the previous film "strayed far afield from a story that was familiar to people, which is a fugitive story".

When the Hulk released, it received mixed reviews. It recived both positive and negative reviews; some calling the Hulk "a ticked-off version of Shrek". At the time of the release of Ang Lee's Hulk, screenwriter James Schamus was planning a sequel, featuring the Gray Hulk. He was also considering the Leader and the Abomination as villains. Marvel wanted the Abomination because he was the most famous enemy, and because he would be an actual threat to the Hulk, unlike General Ross.

The film was a financial disaster at the box office but it was successful enough to make a sequel. This began to rebooting the series with The Incredible Hulk. The movie starred Edward Norton (Script Writer for the movie) as Bruce Banner/Hulk and Liv Tyler as Betty Ross. When Edward Norton met Leterrier and Marvel, however, he liked their vision, and believed they were looking to him to guide the project. Thus, Norton rewrote the script. "Edward's script has given Bruce's story real gravitas," Leterrier said. "Admittedly I'm not the most adult director, but just because we're making a superhero movie it doesn't have to just appeal to 13-year old boys. Ed and I both see superheroes as the new Greek gods."

Zak Penn, who wrote a draft of the first film in 1996, said the film would follow up Hulk, but stressed it would be more tonally similar to the TV show and Bruce Jones' run on the comic. He compared his script to Aliens, which was a very different film to Alien, but still in the same continuity. He included two scenes from his 1996 script: Banner jumping from a helicopter to trigger a transformation, and realizing he is unable to have sex with Betty. Penn wrote three drafts, before departing in early 2007 to direct The Grand. Edward Norton, who had rewritten previous films he starred in, wrote a new draft that pleased the director and the studio in establishing the film as a reboot.

Leterrier acknowledged the only remaining similarity between the two films was Bruce hiding in South America, and that the film was a unique reboot, as generally audiences would have expected another forty minute origin story. There were previous discussions to set the first act in Thailand. Leterrier felt audiences were left restless waiting for the character to arrive in Ang Lee's film. Gale Anne Hurd noted fans dubbed the film a "requel", a portmanteau of reboot and sequel.

Norton explained of his decision to ignore Ang Lee's origin story, "I don't even like the phrase origin story, and I don't think in great literature and great films that explaining the roots of the story doesn't mean it comes in the beginning." "Audiences know this story," he added, "so deal with it artfully." He wanted to "have revelations even in the third act about what set this whole thing in motion". The new origin story references Ultimate Marvel's take on the Hulk, which also had him created in an attempt to create super soldiers. Norton deleted Rick Jones and toned down S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence. Norton rewrote scenes every day.

Ultimately, the Writers Guild of America decided to credit the script solely to Zack Penn who argued Norton had not dramatically changed his script. Wow, now that's harsh. Journalist Anne Thompson explained "The Guild tends to favor plot, structure and pre-existing characters over dialogue." Before either Penn and Norton joined the project, an anonymous screenwriter wrote a draft and lobbied for credit.
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As of April 6, 2009, the film has grossed $263,427,551 in worldwide box office and it made $58,448,280 in DVD sales, bringing its total film gross to $321,875,831. The film out grossed its predecessor and received generally positive reviews. Despite this positive reception Marvel chose to put off a possible sequel until after 2012's The Avengers, in which Banner will no longer be portrayed by Ed Norton.

The fans of his work took this hard and rumors spread fast that it was just a publicity stunt. It was too hard to believe how they could throw away one of their most talented actors and Scriptwriters. I could see and didn't care that they replaced Terrance Howard as Rhodey in Iron Man 2. Edward Norton's script and portrayal of Bruce Banner was so amazing, some say legendary. Like how Robert Downey Jr. is truly Iron Man/Tony Stark, Edward Norton was truly Bruce Banner. He cared for the plot and deeply cared for the role of Bruce Banner that himself was cast. He embodies the true character of Bruce Banner. Not only did he play Bruce Banner well but he played the Hulk perfectly. He made the hulk resemble him, he did the expression, his movements, etc. He also embodies the true character of the Hulk. Also, he couldn't do it without Lou Ferrigno's voice for the Hulk. We also thank you Lou and hope you'll voice the Hulk on Marvel's continuity.

Sadly, our Edward Norton is being replaced by... sad to say, Mark Ruffalo! It was officially announced at Comic-Con, introduced by Robert Downey Jr. The reason is still unclear why Edward Norton was replaced but Marvel states "Ruffalo is Joss Whedon's Banner. He is the Banner that is going to be in that Bill Bixby type, wants to help people and is somewhat ashamed of what he goes through but isn't as strong and angry in his Banner form as he is in his Hulk form, which is something we haven't really seen in the past films. Something like how he was portrayed in the Ultimates, a guy who just wants to be left alone and wear his glasses and do his science." This is a huge and unnecessary step that marvel has made. Some have wiped their tears and moved on with the fact that Edward is gone and Ruffalo might be right for the role. Some people still weep, like me, and can't see the fact of moving on. We really don't need that type Marvel speaks of. Its Edward's version and way we need that already satisfies us. Ed Norton's agent fired back a severe response stating the response was a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light.” Norton responded much more calmly in a direct statement by saying “I am very sincerely grateful to Marvel for extending the offer and even more so for giving me the chance to be a part of the Hulk’s long and excellent history.”

You were in the Hulk's and Banner's long and excellent history and will always be remembered for it.

We fans also hope you jump back in involvement in future installments, like you have when you got up out of 2003's Hulk. We as fans, have done everything in our power to get you considered for the sequel but the chance of you returning has failed. Like Michael Jackson in music, you will always be remembered by your dear fans and viewers. We love you Edward Norton and you have showed your love to us. This is our goodbye and hopes to seeing you in the future.
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conformist21
conformist21 - 7/28/2010, 3:38 AM
it sucks alot for continuity reasons,
but if in the Avengers movie is going for more of an Ultimate Hulk, i think norton wouldn't fit it as well, he was a great 616 hulk more than Ultimate.
It's a shame really, but let's just let it die with this post, since we can only complain for so long before we have to move on
ASSASSIN666
ASSASSIN666 - 7/28/2010, 4:14 AM
At the end of the day Norton is still one of the best actors ever, and Avengers will make sick millions no matter who is in it.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/28/2010, 4:21 AM
conformist21 @ WTF???????????????

INCREDIBLE HULK is connected to IRON MAN thats connected to AVENGERS with THE HULK WTF lol??????

Its all connected!!!

NORTON & HANK & JAN not in AVENGERS
means the movie wont be EPIC just MEH!



Real shame HOLLYWOOD is [frick]ing up one of the biggest best superhero movies that should be made!
Looks like JLA is going to be the BIG MOVIE now!!!

PROMORUS @ Gr8 article dude! ; )
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/28/2010, 4:42 AM
@ leee777 the avengers is along way off yet mate.
their still a chance marvel may still put hank & jan in it.
it needs more females heroines, black widow is not enough.
don't write the movie off just yet,i think we're in for more big announcements yet.
maybe at the new york comic con in october.
lc
lc - 7/28/2010, 5:06 AM
i didnt read it lol but i see
you done alot of hard work
so well done :)
TANKGIRL
TANKGIRL - 7/28/2010, 6:02 AM
i don't really care about hulk not a fan but you put a lot of work and cheers thumps up

LEEE777 stop being nice we need negative reviews
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 7/28/2010, 6:19 AM
What tea said.
blueballs
blueballs - 7/28/2010, 7:41 AM
Wait Ed Norton was in the Hulk? When?! LOL!
I appreciate your dissapointment in Ed Norton not coming back but to call his performance "legendary" is stretching it a fair bit, it was very good yes but nothing that couldnt be topped. Heath Ledger, Robert Downey Jr., Christopher Reeve those are legendary performances as they made it very hard to imagine anyone else playing those characters, but Ed was just okay in my opinion.
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/28/2010, 1:09 PM
@All the members who commented
Thank you so much for your generosity and not for saying anything negative or insulting. I put my whole heart and spirit into this article and stayed up late last night to finish. I would have thought it would made main but I guess it wasnt that good for them to. But I aint trippin cuz I just got to pay my respects to one of my favorite actors.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/28/2010, 3:08 PM
this is a good article. I don't necessarily agree with a lot of it, but its all opinions and at the end of the day, a good article is a good article.

personally, i don't think its a big deal at all, because Norton didn't remind me of Bruce Banner in the slightest, not the 616 version OR the Ultimate version. He made it his own version. I like Norton as an actor, but I hardly think he's necessary.

And i can't stand the people that say Marvel is messing up because Norton isn't coming back. They tried to get him back. They very clearly and obviously wanted him to come back, but Norton wanted more than what they wanted to give him. and i don't just mean money. Judging by what happened with him and Marvel during Incredible Hulk, he wants some kind of creative control. No one can blame Marvel for not giving him that. Is he a good actor? yes. Is he so amazing that he should be allowed to affect the stories and outcomes of MARVEL'S movies? of course not. No actor should be allowed to.

Basically, if the guy doesn't want to cooperate, and will only play with Marvel if he gets his way, then i say good for Marvel for letting him go. Maybe now we'll get a Bruce Banner that reminds me of the comic version.

but again, great article, i can tell you put a lot of thought into it.
KidDynamo0
KidDynamo0 - 7/28/2010, 3:18 PM
LET IT GO!!!! He got replaced, move on. I am so tired of listening to people cry about this replacement. What about Eric Bana were you crying then? My guess, probably not. Just move the [frick] on already.
DGNR8
DGNR8 - 7/28/2010, 3:46 PM
dude...you need to drop it...yes he will be remembered for his part in HULK history...as George Clooney will be for Batman's(although in a totally different way....Norton's being possitive) but at the end of the day...it was'nt meant to be
jusme6
jusme6 - 7/28/2010, 4:01 PM
NORTON IS SO ANNOYING!!! Norton always slows down my computer and has these pop ups that ask me "restart now? or in 5 min? 30 min? 4 hours?" I can't stand Norton!!!
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/28/2010, 4:06 PM
@CorndogBurglar
Thank you CorndogBurglar, for your positive review of my article

@KidDynamo0
As for you! We are trying to [frick]ing move on and this post was suppose to help and say our respects to him. For your info, yes, I wasn't crying over Eric Bana getting replaced. Wat does that shit have to do with this anyway. Edward was a way better Bruce Banner than Eric Bana in all ways and every way. You not tired of shit. All you want to do is [frick]ing talk non-since with negativity. How about you get the [frick] off our jock's. You don't have the [frick]ing right to say you are tired of this shit cuz the shit just started and if you are tired of it already, you must be one weak and easily aggravated human being.

@DGNR8
Yes I know we need to move on and that's your opinion.
TheAmazingGoblin
TheAmazingGoblin - 7/28/2010, 4:08 PM
@ Promorus nice editorial. Its a truly a disappointment that Edward Norton got replaced. Hopefully Mark Ruffalo will do a good of a job as Bruce Banner
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/28/2010, 4:11 PM
@jusme6
Omg, lol, that was [frick]ing hilarious! I understand what yuo mean, lol. I hate that Norton shit too. Why would it be popping up on the computer and it wont help unless its bought. Its like a tease or something. Its like a boat passing you if you in the middle of the ocean and they wont allow you on unless you got cash or something they want. I mean jesus!http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Norton-Antivirus.jpg
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/28/2010, 4:17 PM
@TheAmazingGoblin
Thanks bro. Thats all I hope too. I also hope Norton will be back as they see he is needed like how Smallville need Michael Rosenbaum to return to Smallville and is willing to give him anything. but I pray that his Mark's performance is amazing. I also hope he loses all that muscle because I dont want it just like Bill Bixby even though I loved him as Banner
ThomYorke
ThomYorke - 7/28/2010, 4:45 PM
ed norton was the only good thing about that film shame he wont be back but ruffalo is a good actor and im sure he'll do a good job. mind you he'll probably only be in it for about 5 minutes
KidDynamo0
KidDynamo0 - 7/28/2010, 5:19 PM
@Promorus - Listen, the point is that the reign of Norton as Hulk is over. People want to blame Marvel or Norton for the fallout. Nobody on this site knows what the [frick] happened. How about we just move on, and stop acting like a bunch of children and whining about some multi-millionaire getting canned by some other multi-millionaires. His presence isnt going to make or break The Avengers. Would it have been cool to see Norton in The Avengers? Yes of course. However, he isn't so how about instead of writing some diatribe about how he will be missed you do something constructive with your time. Post some thoughts about what The Avengers plot should be or thoughts on the DCU. Writing some obituary on Norton's career with Marvel is just lame. Just as lame as the guy who was in tears when as he screamed "WHAT ABOUT ED NORTON!!!!???!!!" to Kevin Feige at the Marvel panel. It showed low class and the attitude of an dissatisfied child. Are you an adult? I assume so, then grow up and move on with your life. Ruffalo is a fine actor and I am sure in a few years you will be screaming how crazy it is that he hasn't received his own Hulk solo flick! I remember this same sort of bitching when Heath Ledger was picked for the Joker...how did that work out! How about actually accepting some change and seeing where it goes. Criticize it when you actually see some footage.
ALmighty1080
ALmighty1080 - 7/28/2010, 5:51 PM
norton sucked as bruce banner anyway
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/28/2010, 6:45 PM
@KidDynamo0
What the [frick]! Ok, how the [frick] dare you? For yo info, this was creative and you need to stop bitching towards me for writing this. If this article sucked so bad, why the [frick] do I have 10 thumbs up and no thumbs down you hater. It seem like we [frick]ing agreeing but you still wanna bitch about shit. You saying what I said in the article but putting it in your own words negatively. Im a very unique, creative and imaginative person and I am currently writing different Fan-Fics and Understandings for things. I don't have to do those things u said I should do because everyone is doing and I have no likeness for it. I am my own [frick]ing person and I do unique things like this article. And how dare you say I mature up? Instead of rambling mad and cussing out Marvel for the decision, I just respectfully did this and payed my respect. Neither have I said Ruffalo is a terrible choice. All I said is I hope he does a great portrayal of Bruce Banner but I still consider Edward Norton for the role you prick. I have also seen the panel video and I dont remember the guy crying when he said, "Edward Norton!" And you used the word diatribe? WTF! diatribe means a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism. You blind bat Mutha-FuuCka! This article is none of that. I didn't have a problem with Heath Ledger as the Joker before or after. His portrayal of the Joker was perfect and he's dead so we have to move on. I've moved on but still think they should have him the same way with kinda the same voice. A lot of people know how to make that impression. I thought you would feed back with positive this time but I see you on of these bitching lil turds. I mean we see eye to eye with this shit but you trying to make different accusations and shit. I also don't criticize a studio's decision until I see the actual footage or trailer.

@ALmighty1080
Like you have the avatar of a sucked ass movie that didnt do nowhere good
DudeOfSteel16
DudeOfSteel16 - 7/28/2010, 8:29 PM
@Promorus: Nice article man!!! Norton was definitely the best Bruce Banner to date!!! You obviously feel the same way by putting a lot of effort into this article. Great Job!!!
AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 7/29/2010, 5:43 AM
@Promorus
Great editorial! I am going to miss Ed as Banner. I though he did a great job on the role. I was hoping that that rumor going around Comic-Con was true about it being a hoax, but it wasn't. Instead it was revealed Mark was replacing him. Not that I'm saying he's a bad actor, but I just can't see him that much as being Bruce. But if Joss and RDJ are behind him, then I am too. He might surprise us once we see footage. Great work! :)
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/29/2010, 8:09 PM
@AverageCitizen99


Thanks bro

@BigChief16


Thanks
UnfriendlySpidey
UnfriendlySpidey - 7/29/2010, 9:40 PM
@Promorus very nicely done! just like Average said, I'll miss Norton as Banner but am looking forward to Ruffalo's interpretation. Who knows? He may just surprise us all and actually be good! Robert Downey Jr is the man, so if he says I'm all for Ruffalo as the new Bruce Banner and asks us to do the same, well, I know I'm going to honor the RDJ's wishes :D again, thumbs up dude!
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 7/30/2010, 2:50 PM
@UnfriendlySpidey & brazilianbatman

Thanks so much and thanks for paying your respects to him
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 7/30/2010, 9:39 PM
i really think the only reason they cast Ruffalo was for comic-con. honestly why did they have to hire someone this early for the part? i think they could have either come up with someone better or eventually worked things out with norton. the movie is two years away. Captain America hasn't even casted a Namor yet and they're currently filming. if comic-con wasn't right around the corner i don't know if we would be seeing ruffalo as hulk.
Akercocke
Akercocke - 7/31/2010, 10:07 AM
Let it go. It sucks that Norton won't be Banner, but there's nothing we can do about it. Hopefully this editorial will serve as an epilogue to this Norton thing.Let's move on. Support Mark, he's just doing his job and who knows? he may surprise us all.
ManThing
ManThing - 8/2/2010, 6:40 AM
I loled at this article and all this cheesy nonsense.

And then I loled at myself for wasting my time reading it.
Ryden
Ryden - 8/3/2010, 11:21 AM
Sorry if this sounds rude but this is pretty pathetic. I mean you're acting as if Norton was killed or something! He was a good Banner but not the best, Ruffallo might do a better job. It's not the end of the world man...
Spideyrules
Spideyrules - 8/7/2010, 1:54 PM
conformist21 all the movies that Marvel makes is set in the 616 U. I know that 616 Nick Fury was a white dude and Ultimate Nick look's jus' like Samuel L. Jackson but the origin is still the same as 616. And Norton would have been great for Hulk either way!
Spideyrules
Spideyrules - 8/7/2010, 1:57 PM
Morena Baccarin would be [frick]ing awesome for Wasp! I wish they wouldn't have killed her off in Secret Invasion though cus' although Hank is a pretty cool Wasp he isn't as cool as Jan was as Wasp!
SupermanReturns2
SupermanReturns2 - 8/7/2010, 8:48 PM
Just watch TIH again...
Norton is the only Banner for me.
FCUK Ruffalo! and Josh "The Turd" Whedon
thetrubatman14
thetrubatman14 - 8/16/2010, 5:55 PM
LOVE NORTON AS HULK NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PROTRAY THE HULK THAN HIM!!!!!!!!!
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