ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Tops TFATW In Streaming Battle But Falls Short Of WONDER WOMAN 1984 Debut

ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Tops TFATW In Streaming Battle But Falls Short Of WONDER WOMAN 1984 Debut

New viewership data reveals that Zack Snyder's Justice League topped The Falcon and The Winter Soldier in terms of viewership, but ultimately fell short of Wonder Woman 1984's debut. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Mar 24, 2021 03:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Deadline

Earlier this week, Disney+ revealed that The Falcon and The Winter Soldier drew a bigger audience than both The Mandalorian and WandaVision's respective premieres. HBO Max has yet to share any sort of viewership numbers for Zack Snyder's Justice League, but Deadline has shared data - provided by Samba TV - which clears things up a little in that respect. 

It's said that 1.8 million HBO Max households tuned into at least the first five minutes of the Snyder Cut between March 19th - March 21st. That's a figure which puts it ever so slightly behind the 2.2 million who reportedly checked out Wonder Woman 1984 on the streaming service during its opening "weekend" last year (December 25th -  December 27th). 

So, Zack Snyder's Justice League didn't break records on HBO Max, but these are still huge numbers, especially for an R-Rated, four-hour movie (Wonder Woman 1984 was far more family friendly).

The Sndyer Cut did, however, just manage to top The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Samba TV tells the trade that the Disney+ series clocked in at 1.7 million in total. That does indeed make it the streamer's biggest series premiere to date, and only slightly behind the Distinguished Competition.

When Justice League was released theatrically, it made a $60 million loss on its whopping $300 million budget. Now, that budget sits at around $370 million. How much this HBO Max debut for the Snyder Cut has made from a financial perspective remains to be seen (a Blu-ray release is also planned). 

What did you guys decide to watch over the weekend? 


Click on the "Next" button below to see what we think
did and didn't work in the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League!

10. Did Work: A Ferocious Wonder Woman

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If you were left feeling underwhelmed by Diana Prince's portrayal in Wonder Woman 1984 (she didn't wield her sword or shield), then Zack Snyder's Justice League is the movie for you. 

The original version of the Amazon Warrior taking out the criminals who plan to blow up those kids is violent, bloody, and a badass take on the character fans will definitely appreciate. This is a proactive Wonder Woman, something that's evident from when she later goes one-on-one with Steppenwolf. 

Snyder clearly had a very specific idea for how Diana should be portrayed on screen, and it's one which lines up both with 2017's Wonder Woman more than last year's divisive sequel.
 

9. Did Work: Steppenwolf

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The 2017 version of Steppenwolf was disappointing to say the least, and not just because he looked like a character who had been pulled straight from a video game cutscene. Thankfully, his appearance isn't the only thing that's been improved upon for the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League

Spurned by Darkseid for a failure thousands of years earlier and forced to travel from planet to planet claiming them for his master (and a sneering Desaad), Steppenwolf's motivations make perfect sense now. He wants to return home, and the only way to do that is delivering the Anti-Life Equation.

This interpretation of the villain looks great in action, and feels like a legitimate threat to the team. 
 

8. Didn't Work: A Little Too Much Overindulgence

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Look, at four hours long, this was probably an inevitability. No one can blame Snyder for wanting to including everything he shot here, but there are moments which just aren't necessary. 

For example, from how many angles do we really need to see Bruce Wayne riding a horse? This causes some scenes and moments to drag, and while they're few and far between (ultimately, the runtime goes as quick as Avengers: Endgame's), it's hard not to highlight them as a negative. 

This is a minor flaw, and not one that's likely to bother anyone who wanted to see Snyder's full vision for Justice League without any cuts or changes. A slightly tighter version would be fun to see, though.
 

7. Did Work: Gods Among Men

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The Marvel Universe's characters are more relatable than DC's, and for many fans, that's because the latter company's are God-like in terms of their powers. Of course, that's a big part of the Justice League's appeal, and Snyder effortlessly makes these heroes feel like mythological beings here.

That's particularly the case when the Flash, for example, taps into the Speed Force for the first time. It's a beautiful, jaw-dropping sequence which shows how powerful the Scarlet Speedster really is.

Aquaman and Wonder Woman also benefit from Snyder's vision, while Batman's actions make much more sense this time. However, it's Cyborg who gets the biggest upgrade in some ways because the way he taps into technology makes him a true Modern Day God Of The Digital Age.
 

6. Did Work: Everything Makes Sense Now

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While Zack Snyder's Justice League follows the same basic direction as the theatrical cut, everything that didn't make sense in 2017 now does! For example, we learn that where the League meets isn't part of the Batcave, but a completely separate location in Gotham City. Batman also has a reason for building that massive troop transport, and is no longer on a suicide mission.

We've obviously talked about Steppenwolf and his motivations, but we're sure you'll be glad to learn that while Superman's resurrection is mostly the same, it's much better explained this time. 

With the plot given room to breathe, Justice League massively benefits, and it's crazy to think that so many of these important beats were left on the cutting room floor. Thankfully, this is a far more cohesive experience.
 

5. Didn't Work: Martian Manhunter

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In terms of his appearance, we can't fault Martian Manhunter. The design probably won't be to everyone's liking, but this is a cool take on the character and one many fans will love. 

The bigger issue, unfortunately, is that he feels a little shoehorned in. The scene we've heard and seen so much about where he leaves Lois Lane's apartment disguised as Martha Kent probably would have worked better in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and feels a tad random in the wider context of the movie. We won't spoil his second scene, but that works much better.

Honestly, a Green Lantern cameo would have been even better, but for fans of Martian Manhunter, J'onn J'onzz's big screen debut in the "Snyder Cut" will definitely be welcomed.
 

4. Did Work: Ray Fisher's Amazing Take On Cyborg

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Well, Zack Snyder wasn't kidding when he said that Cyborg was the "heart" of his Justice League movie.

For reasons known only to him, Joss Whedon tore that out in 2017, but this version restores Ray Fisher's original scenes (99% of which were reshot) and deliver a much better take on Victor Stone. When a Cyborg standalone feature was announced by Warner Bros., fans didn't get it. Well, after watching this movie, something tells us you'll wish that had ended up happening. 

The portrayal of Cyborg's powers is particularly impressive, and a sequence which follows Victor as he contemplates the things he could (but perhaps shouldn't) do with his abilities is fascinating.
 

3. Did Work: Darkseid Teases

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Darkseid doesn't get a leading role in Zack Snyder's Justice League, but he still makes one hell of an impact! Those flashbacks to Uxas' attack on Earth land much better this time around, while any time the villain speaks, he's in equal parts terrifying and feels every bit the big deal Thanos once did. 

There's some great stuff nearer the end of the movie with him, but one sequence a little earlier in proceedings promises to be one which DC Comics fans talk about for many years to come. 

We won't get into specifics, but suffice to say it involves the Omega Beams (which we saw in the latest trailer) and a glimpse ahead at what might happen should Darkseid conquer the Earth.
 

2. Didn't Work: Not Enough Superman

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Another nitpick, but this lack of screentime for Superman will definitely disappoint the Man of Steel's fans. 

He doesn't return until relatively late in the proceedings, and it's clear Snyder planned to give the hero a much larger role in the two sequels he had planned. Superman's battle with the League works better here, particularly when it comes to his confrontation with Batman. A couple of decent lines of dialogue Whedon added are missed, but not to a particularly significant extent. 

Everything on the farm is infinitely better here, as are the hints about where Clark and Lois' relationship goes next. As for his role in the final battle, Henry Cavill definitely shines as this badass Supes.
 

1. Did Work: Batman Meets Joker

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The "Knightmare" sequence Zack Snyder chose to add to this cut of Justice League is a lot of fun, and a great tease for a sequel...we probably won't ever see. Of course, we once thought that would be the case about the "Snyder Cut" itself, so it's way too early to write that off as a possibility. 

Regardless, while Deathstroke doesn't bring much to the table (neither does Mera aside from a weird English accent), rest assured that Ben Affleck's Batman sharing the screen with Jared Leto's Joker is just as much fun as you might expect. The hatred they feel for one another is palpable, and there are some great comments about the past which will grab your attention.

Whether it's a movie, anime follow-up, or comic book sequel, we need to see more of these two together.
 

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BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 3/24/2021, 4:02 AM
And that's just HBO max which is only available in the bloody US 🤬😤🤬

Jaspion
Jaspion - 3/24/2021, 4:03 AM
It's said that 1.8 million HBO Max households tuned into AT LEAST THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES of the Snyder Cut.


Then they gave up.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 3/24/2021, 5:24 AM
People thought they were getting rick rolled because the 1st 5 minutes is just Superman screaming.....
CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 3/24/2021, 4:09 AM
You Americans....you pirated it, didn't you?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 3/24/2021, 4:11 AM
@CyberNigerian - I ain't American, but I say yes to the other thing
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 3/24/2021, 4:26 AM
@CyberNigerian - not American, and I didn't want to support this sort of nonsense.
MartyScorsese
MartyScorsese - 3/24/2021, 4:29 AM
@CyberNigerian - I have HBO Max, yet I chose to not watch this on it. I won't stand for this corporation taking advantage of ill and obsessed fans like this.
Elbarto63
Elbarto63 - 3/24/2021, 4:54 AM
@MartyScorsese - But Mr. Scorsese, I thought you didnt watch superhero movies?
MartyScorsese
MartyScorsese - 3/24/2021, 5:00 AM
@Elbarto63 - I must watch so I can educate you lot about why movies like these are turds compared to my cinema.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 3/24/2021, 6:14 AM
@CyberNigerian - I paid for it, but being a 4 hr movie its going to turn the majority of the "average movie-goer" away because its too long. Like a movie theater, you have to devote a time/place to watch. Thats too much of a hassle for most, my girlfriend who watches all the CBMs with me literally said "No" to its runtime and is going to watch it later on in bits.

Even if this went to theaters it would've flopped, its way too long. Parents wont bring their kids to a 4hr movie.
CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 3/24/2021, 6:28 AM
@mastakilla39 - A good compromise would be a 3 hour theatrical run.

Even then... I don't get people's aversion to the 4 hour run time if they usually binge way longer on TV series (via Netflix etc)
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 3/24/2021, 6:37 AM
@CyberNigerian - its based on attention span and commitment. People rather watch 1hr 8 episodes vs 8hr movie because with the episodes they can hop off anytime. With an 8hr movie they have to commit to a continuous full 8 hr movie.

Just like most people spend time watching random clips on youtube rather than watching a movie.
CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 3/24/2021, 7:00 AM
@mastakilla39 - That's a good analysis actually. Makes sense.
dracula
dracula - 3/24/2021, 11:49 AM
@CyberNigerian - No, and despite having HBOMax, I have not watched it legally either.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 3/24/2021, 4:12 AM
"Samba TV reports that Zack Snyder’s Justice League drew 1.8M HBO Max households in its first five minutes over its premiere weekend of March 19-21."

So, only the first 5 minutes are counted?

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 3/24/2021, 5:28 AM
@Moriakum - Its the Netflix and Youtube video count algorithm. All it matters is if you watch the 1st 30 seconds of a clip or 5 minutes of a movie then its considered 1 view.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 3/24/2021, 5:31 AM
@mastakilla39 - That´s so stupid!
Fogs
Fogs - 3/24/2021, 5:56 AM
@Moriakum

4h film
240 min
5 min
2.08% of the film watched

bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 3/24/2021, 4:17 AM
Most impressive. Especially considering it's almost five times as long.

That said, I waited with TFATWS because I wanted to finish ZSJL first. And I knew I couldn't in one night, meaning I didn't watch TFAWTS premiere (which I think goes for more people).
Nunyabiz
Nunyabiz - 3/24/2021, 4:59 AM
@bkmeijer - I watched both but neither on their premier.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 3/24/2021, 6:57 AM
@bkmeijer - yeah I was going to watch both in one night but was so burned out after Justice League that I waited a day.
McGee
McGee - 3/24/2021, 4:19 AM
Either way, Gal wins.

GalGadot
GalGadot - 3/24/2021, 4:48 AM
@McGee -
Matador
Matador - 3/24/2021, 4:51 AM
@McGee - $5 bucks say's she still can't find where she parked her plane.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 3/24/2021, 5:08 AM
@McGee -
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 3/24/2021, 5:48 AM
@Moriakum - damn, that singing got more annoying everytime they played it
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