Bomblu on Marvel, Continuity and Fidelity

Bomblu on Marvel, Continuity and Fidelity

My thoughts on Marvel Studio's decisions on the future of their franchises.

Editorial Opinion
By Bomblu - Jul 14, 2010 02:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Other

As most would agree, Marvel Studio's first movies were both impressive and were a good break to the bland comic book movies that were released in the past few years. All seemed good, and the idea of having the cast reprise their role in not just numerous sequels to the movies - but join up together in the Avengers (I could have skipped this last bit, Mr.Favreau made this point very clear in his latest Iron Man film).

I'd also like to point out that I don't not consider myself to be an expert on comic book lore as I own very few comics and tend to get most of my knowledge of these characters from the 90's TV cartoons. However, in the past years, I got to know some more details through you at CBM, so I'm going to assume I have a rough idea of what goes on with the marvel characters.

Changing Terrance Howard in Iron Man 2 ticked me off quite a lot, why did they replace possibly one of the best actors in the movie? I don't think Howard's acting is stellar, but I connected with the character and I found his relationship with Stark to be quite believable and natural.
All in all, to me, Iron Man 2 was Marvel Studios worst film. But I know studios may make mistakes, or I didn't click with the story and movie as a whole so I let the event pass bye, waiting eagerly for Thor which is due to be out next year.

Next we get to know that Chris Evans is Captain America. I wasn't a big fan of the Fantastic Four movies, nor did I enjoy watching Push. I though Marvel Studios was slightly more adventurous in trying to find the best talent to represent one of their most iconic characters. Once again, this might have been my opinion and we haven't seen anything from the film apart from some concept suit artwork (which didn't impress me, but things always look different on screen - a point which I will address after I discuss some more continuity...

Today I saw the 1st decent image from Thor. Erm, as far as I know, he is the God of Thunder - not the son of some supernaturally-powered alien. If this was being done by another studio I might have let it go and forgotten all about the movie, but Marvel?
For starters, the eye patch looks totally out of place and they all seem too clean. Was I hoping too much when I though Thor would be a comic-styled Lord of the Rings? Please, those that know Thor's history well enough, correct me if I'm wrong on this bit. The armour looks too futuristic. Was this direction taken to make Thor, Cap and Iron Man look good on screen and not look out of place? From my point of view, that's the fun part of The Avengers - they've all got their 'different walks of life' and somehow, need to work as a team.
I haven't given up on Thor till now, I'll judge once i see the trailer. After all, the image might have been simply part of a photo shoot and Mr. Hopkins had just arrived from the Hair Salon.

Finally.

Replacing Ed Norton... this is where I begin to hope that Marvel's just playing one big joke. Norton brought something new to the Hulk (at least to the silver screen). It wasn't too light hearted like Iron Man, and wasn't as dark as the Dark Knight - to me, Hulk had the perfect balance when it came to presenting the story in movie format. Sure, there were bits I didn't like, I would have rather seen a less hulk-like enemy but once again, it might be down to personal preference.
But RE-CASTING the person who probably made the movie the masterpiece it is today? Sure, they'd let RDJ meddle with the script and act all natural - he's something of a Sex Symbol now - who would want to piss Downey off? Could it be that Norton thought that the Avengers script was too childish and lacked any emotion what so ever?

I hope I didnt sound like i'm ranting but I cant see how, from my point of view, Marvel's screwing up it's own products. I'd rather see films which capture the essence of the period they're in rather than see these characters blended to fit into the Avengers.

Here's hoping that Comic Con sheds more light onto these projects, and that I won't have to give up on Comic Book Movies by Marvel.

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ROMACK
ROMACK - 7/14/2010, 3:39 PM
This should be under Editorials not Scoops dude.
sirawesome754
sirawesome754 - 7/14/2010, 3:40 PM
yeah this has definetley been a downward slope for marvel
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 7/14/2010, 4:42 PM
1- I thought the Terrence Howard thing was a money issue; like he was asking for more money than RDJ was getting. Could be wrong on that one.

2- I agree with most that Chris Evans is an odd choice for Cap, but as you mentioned, all we've seen from this film is renderings for a suit. I think it's way to early for people to decide that they don't like the movie.

3- The same can be said for Thor. Still too early to be damning the film.

As for the costumes, whether it's for X-Men, Iron Man, Cap, F4, whatever...if the costumes are different from the comics and that's the biggest complaints people have...? How many times have characters gone through costume redesigns? Have we liked them all? No. Are we still fans of the characters? Yes. I see it as some costumes just do not translate well on to the screen. Period. Hugh Jackman in yellow and blue spandex with a mask that has giant pointy ears? No thanks. I'm not going skip a movie because I'm not a fan of the costumes. Feel free though.
contrast
contrast - 7/15/2010, 12:58 AM
I believe that all of your points are valid, and very well expressed. The only area of disagreement I have with what you have said is that the Thor costumes, specifically Odin's, look like they were taken directly from Jack Kirby's artwork.

Now, I'll be honest, the one I am least fond of is Loki. It's not the lack of helmet (as he's already been confirmed as having one, just without it in that particular image)... it's more about the utter disregard for Loki's proper color scheme. The gold has outbalanced the green by, well, too damn much.

I'll also agree on the eyepatch, but on the grounds that it always looked (to me, anyway) that Odin's eyepatch was attatched to his helmet.

Now, back to the argument part... I don't think that they look too "clean", as they're Gods. Norse gods who kill things and sing drunken songs while slurping on mead, but gods nonetheless. They should look "clean". As for being too futuristic--well, Hephastus (That's probably a butchery of his name, but I don't want to look it up now)... Greek god of the forge, had robots that helped his crippled-self walk around.

And, the Norse Gods in Marvel Comics have always been portrayed as being somewhat technologically advanced (occasionally being written as ancient aliens, like in Earth X, but until recently, they have always been shown as possessing unthinkable technology. The recent shift can probably be attributed to the whole "Ragnarok cycle" thing... maybe. Because I haven't steadily followed Thor since the eighties.)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/15/2010, 4:25 AM
@ contrast

i was just going to say that about the Asgardians.

People seem to forget, or just don't know that the Asgardians are from a different realm, and they've always had a certain sci-fi look and feel to them. they aren't just old medievel knights.

anyway, i'm sick of hearing about Norton. its not the end of the world.

also, Cheadle was a way better Rhodey than Howard ever was. Howard came off as too much of a sissy. Rhodey is supposed to be hardcore.
Bomblu
Bomblu - 7/15/2010, 7:35 AM
@ Contrast

Thanks for the insight, now i accept their 'slightly-futuristic look' much more :) Still waiting for ComicCon to see a teaser or something :P

@ CorndogBurglar

True, it is not the end of the world, but I think it's a pity that they're replacing someone who made hulk what it was (and i think it was pretty good).

And being sick of hearing about Norton might mean that people are concerned about the change, just my thoughts ;p
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