EDITORIAL: You’re wrong!!! It won’t make it any better

EDITORIAL: You’re wrong!!! It won’t make it any better

A lot of fans rightfully feel that their favorite superhero should have a shot at making it to the big screen. Therefore, they come up with arguments as to why a movie about superhero X could be the best one to date. But if you look at it, most if not all of these arguments are usually invalid.

Editorial Opinion
By AgentZero - Aug 03, 2012 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Other

A lot of fans rightfully feel that their favorite superhero should have a shot at making it to the big screen. Therefore, they come up with arguments as to why a movie about superhero X could be the best one to date. But if you look at it, most if not all of these arguments are usually invalid.



The main arguments that are brought up concern either a character, a location, and/or a particular tragedy that happened to the superhero. Let’s take the time to consider a few examples. A lot of people wanted the helicarrier to be included in The Avengers movie (a noble wish in itself). But the way I see it, it didn’t matter if it was a static ground base or a naval base: it simply did not have a direct impact on the story: bottom line is Shield needed a place to operate. We also have the fact that some fans want to see Hank Pym slap his wife in the upcoming Ant-Man movie. In all seriousness, is it that important? Is Ant-Man’s story-arc portfolio so small that the filmmakers don’t have anything else to choose from? From what I know, it isn’t part of his origin story and it adds nothing.

Another editorial suggested that, in order for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 to be the best Spider-Man movie yet, it would need to have (among other things) Easter eggs. These little nods are simply a little extra put forth for the fans: they don’t shape the course of the story. If the movie doesn’t lead anywhere plot-wise, it’s pretty much a done deal: Easter eggs will not make it any better.

Now let’s take a look at the matter from another perspective.

The Avengers was acclaimed by fans and critics alike because it had great performances by the actors, amazing action scenes and the story was laid out perfectly (some say it folded before you like a comic book). The Dark Knight trilogy is now the first in the genre to be considered good because it also had top performances by the main actors and a deep and AMAZING story. The likes of X-Men, Iron Man, Spider-Man 2 are also in the conversation.

It really doesn’t matter if there is a love interest in the movie or if a reference is made. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: what makes a good superhero movie is a combination of three things done well: the Acting, the Action, and most importantly the Story.

Have an opinion? Sound off in the comment section.

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ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/3/2012, 12:34 PM
@SotoJuiceMan

Lol I agree with everything you said dude, his fail on the easter eggs was pretty funny though XD
JBatesyFilmreviews
JBatesyFilmreviews - 8/3/2012, 12:38 PM
Rightttt, well I think for example Ant-man and Wasp are a must have for Avengers and their respective sequels, he creates one of their greatest foes, also, the fact you think that character has a small 'story arc portfolio' is stupid. The domestic abuse relationship between Ant man and wasp was something that changed the whole view on comics and the industry itself. I also have to disagree with your statement 'It really doesn’t matter if there is a love interest in the movie or if a reference is made. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: what makes a good superhero movie is a combination of three things done well: the Acting, the Action, and most importantly the Story.'. You have contradicted yourself there because by saying you don't need a love interest etc is wrong because something like that actually shapes the characters, for example, the death of Gwen shaped Spidermans life forever and hopefully eventually we will see that on the big screen. Action is important but a film should not be defined by it because if that happens you simply end up with some Michael Bay transformers wannabe shit. Rant over.
JBatesyFilmreviews
JBatesyFilmreviews - 8/3/2012, 12:39 PM
@SotoJuiceMan Damn man! You beat me to it, but yes, I obviously agree with everything @sotojuiceman just said
kong
kong - 8/3/2012, 12:44 PM
You people don't get it. The point of the article is that these don't make the movie great. He's saying that a movie is good based on acting and story not the effects and Easter eggs.m
AgentZero
AgentZero - 8/3/2012, 12:49 PM
@RedHood13 Finally someone who understands. These guys seem to lack logic to comprehend anything.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 8/3/2012, 1:18 PM
I agree about the Easter egg thing. There are a lot of editorials on here about what will make any random comic movie great and everyone seems to think referencing other stuff makes it better. It doesn't. It can be kinda cool to have a nod to something else, but it really doesn't make the movie better. Is Batman Forever and Batman & Robin better because of the Superman reference?? NOPE. I'd much rather have hints of things that are acting building up to something, not just a Dr Strange reference just for the hell of it.
I agree also to a certain extent about the helicarrier. It really didn't serve much purpose in the movie other than to have a mid movie action scene when Hawkeye attacked it and it started to fall. Just used to add a little bit of extra tension to the scene. If it wasn't in the movie, I don't think the movie would have been worse and I don't think it's inclusion made the movie better.
Lastly, as far as Ant Man goes, I really hope as well there is more to this character than hitting his wife. This could be an interesting storyline in a sequel. Build up to it. Have it shown that he is stressed or troubled or whatever led to it. Just wanting it in there cause it happened in the comics s silly. It has to make sense in terms of the movies.
ArtisticErotic
ArtisticErotic - 8/3/2012, 6:37 PM
Easter eggs are only cool if you understand them. If no one gets them then it's useless and just pointless. Comic book fans may get this stuff but your average joe does not care about it.


Tainted87
Tainted87 - 8/3/2012, 6:38 PM
I'm in the minority with Ang Lee's Hulk. My brother (older, judgmental) takes a look through my dvds, finds it, grabs it, and says: "really?"

I never understood the hate, never found it boring - my only real gripe is that the Hulk doesn't say anything - but with what little dialogue there is in the Incredible Hulk and the Avengers, it doesn't have much bearing.

More on that some other time.

Do you know why Nolan's Batman is not Batman? Why Nolan's Gotham is not Gotham... why his Two-Face is not Two-Face, his Talia is not Talia, etc...?

Because there isn't a theme. No rich atmosphere that refers to a character's history. Gotham is, in fact, so ridiculously clean that it doesn't need Batman until 8 years later. You read a comic and see that that will never happen. You play an Arkham game and will know that there's no WAY Batman will ever be done rounding up all the crazies, and it isn't a job for the National Guard or the cops. If that was the case, then why bother being Batman? Why dress up like a bat and use bat-themed gadgets and weaponry to scare people into submission? No, I did not answer my own question - there is no reason for Bruce to work alone, to be a stormtrooper, an outlaw... when the cops are able to do his job for him. Truly, the story didn't need to progress any further than Batman Begins.
johnblake
johnblake - 8/3/2012, 7:33 PM
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johnblake
johnblake - 8/3/2012, 7:33 PM
i failed at makin a commet :(
johnblake
johnblake - 8/3/2012, 7:37 PM
hahahaahaha i am
MisterFixit
MisterFixit - 8/4/2012, 12:20 AM
does some of you remember that famous slap was the beginning of
the loss of "sanity" for Pym? It is not simply domestic violence, is part of a larger psychosis which lasted years. It would not make sense to put the slap in the movie without showing that it was all his mind to be shocked.
If they choose this path can be good,otherwise is pointless
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 8/4/2012, 4:46 PM
I haven't tried that yet... strange, I usually watch movies with subtitles, but not that one.
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