SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Originally Introduced Two Key Characters In A Very Different Way - SPOILERS

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Originally Introduced Two Key Characters In A Very Different Way - SPOILERS

Spider-Man: No Way Home writer Chris McKenna has revealed that the introduction of two key characters changed significantly during the scripting process, teasing scrapped plans for a mystery character.

By JoshWilding - Dec 30, 2021 06:12 AM EST
Filed Under: No Way Home
Source: Variety

In Spider-Man: No Way Home, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield returned as the previous big-screen versions (or should that be Variants?) of Peter Parker. We learned they had been pulled into the Marvel Cinematic Universe along with their respective villains, albeit from the present rather than the past.

Ned Leeds inadvertently discovered the two alternate reality Spider-Men while he and MJ were looking for their Peter, but that wasn't always how their introduction was going to play out. 

Talking to Variety, Spider-Man: No Way Home writers Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers revealed that they didn't even know if Maguire and Garfield would be part of the cast while writing the screenplay. Instead, they would only get sporadic updates from Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures about how talks were going. Once they were locked in, it was time to figure out how to bring them into the MCU, but it wasn't originally Ned who managed to track them down with his magic hands. 

"They are brought by a Marvel character going, ‘Here are the saving graces and they’re going to help you through this,'" said McKenna, refusing to reveal who that was. "It was just more of a deus ex machina." Could it have been Madame Web? That might explain why he wouldn't name this ally.

As for the decision to have Ned find the other Peters, the writer adds: "It was a beam of light in darkness. It was such a gift, particularly at that point in the writing process, to be writing for those two characters. It the darkest part of the year, the darkest part of production, the darkest part of the story development, and it was like, 'Oh! Now we get Tobey and Andrew.'"

It sounds like they didn't know that would be the case until last December (Spider-Man: No Way Home started shooting October 2020). We can all agree the end result was spectacular, though, and the scribes definitely managed to nail the reintroduction of both Maguire and Garfield's Spidey Variants.

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Fogs
Fogs - 12/30/2021, 6:25 AM
Wonder if they would only appear masked in the final battle. That's what I take from this.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 12/30/2021, 6:29 AM
I loved NWH, but Jesus Ned making portals like it’s nothing took me right out of the nostalgia trip when Garfield and Maguire returned.
Mugens
Mugens - 12/30/2021, 6:32 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - Yeah you're right about Ned and the portals. If I remember right Dr. Strange had a harder time getting them going in his own origin movie.
KWilly
KWilly - 12/30/2021, 6:39 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - They had to make him feel important somehow, lol
Toecutter
Toecutter - 12/30/2021, 6:42 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - That was complete bullshit, but who cares? I was so happy to see Tobey and Andrew back. Lol
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/30/2021, 6:53 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - is it even explained why Ned is so good at it?
Repian
Repian - 12/30/2021, 6:29 AM
I hope to see Madame Web in the MCU. In fact, I was hoping to see a post-credit scene involving Madame Web.

And I know who is the perfect actress for the role.


BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 12/30/2021, 7:07 AM
@Repian - God I love Charlotte Rampling. For an amazing recent performance of hers, check out Benedetta. She acts her face off, and in French. She was also a stone cold fox back in the day, on full display in Zardoz.
DarkDetective
DarkDetective - 12/30/2021, 10:38 AM
@Repian - knowing Sony they are gonna cast someone like Jennifer Lawrence lol
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/30/2021, 6:53 AM
Sure it could've been Madame Web, but what if it was Kang or someone else from the TVA?
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/30/2021, 7:02 AM


Straight from the horse's mouth, dethpillow! :P

Hate to sound like a broken record, but there you go, you can even find buzzwords like "deus ex machina", the kinda shit that hijacks the craft in order to achieve fan-service, literally all i was telling you the other time, fam.

After all, how can you deny something that is so f*cking obvious???

I mean...all *of that* thanks to...Ned? NED?????

Come on, man...

THESE are the condition in which these writers had to work with, i guess i can...close an eye, but just as long as we keep it real and don't make a fool out of each other.

Madame Web would've been DOPE.
Whaley87
Whaley87 - 12/30/2021, 7:32 AM
@Doomsday8888 - You sound like you're having an aneurysm.
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 12/30/2021, 8:16 AM
"More of a deus ex machina", what more than magic Ned? Set up by one line when he first meets Dr. Strange?

Great writing guys. Keep it up.
Darth258
Darth258 - 12/30/2021, 8:32 AM
Maybe now that Ned has magic and he's the comic relief something could go comically wrong with a spell and he could become Demogoblin.

bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/30/2021, 9:31 AM
@Darth258 - that would be a cool iteration. One question though: does he still know what a sling ring is, since he only got his hands on it because he knew Peter?
Darth258
Darth258 - 12/30/2021, 10:31 AM
@bkmeijer - Good question. I still don't understand the effects of that spell. Considering his classmates didn't know him and he wasn't recognized as May's nephew does that mean that for the world he didn't go to school or have a family or just that he was unseen and living in May's basement?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/30/2021, 10:56 AM
@Darth258 - that is something I've been thinking about since the day the movie came out. Maybe people just forgot the name Peter Parker, but still remember his face
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 12/30/2021, 8:37 AM
I don't get the issue. It was clearly established in the Dr strange movie that it's more about belief than anything else when it comes to making portals. Dr strange struggled with it because he was still thinking that he physically couldn't do it because of his shaking hands, when the issue was his belief that he couldn't do it was causing him to be unable to do it.

Even then he only figured it out after being stranded on Mt everest and needed to just forget everything and focus only on making a portal. Ned clearly believed in himself after he made sparks wearing the sling ring.

Think about it, he was told by his family that his family has some magical talent, doesn't mean much on it's own but after he caused sparks wearing the sling ring, wouldn't that just boost his belief that he had magical talent in himself? From there all he has to do is focus on making a portal and believe in himself, which at that point what does he have to lose by trying? It makes perfect sense that he would get it to work faster than strange did. A little quick sure, but again, the ancient one says its all about belief and Ned was a believer.
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