THE FLASH Would Have Likely Lost Less Money Had It Been Released On Max Instead On In Theaters

THE FLASH Would Have Likely Lost Less Money Had It Been Released On Max Instead On In Theaters

The Flash may have managed to pass $200 million at the worldwide box office this weekend, but it appears Warner Bros. would have lost less money on the movie had they just dumped it on streaming instead.

By JoshWilding - Jun 26, 2023 09:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash

This weekend, The Flash passed the $200 million mark at the worldwide box office. While hitting a benchmark like that is usually cause for celebration (especially after just over a week in theaters), it might be as good as it gets for the Fastest Man Alive. 

Reliable box office analyst Luiz Fernando believes the movie is currently eyeing an eventual global run of only $280 million - $300 million. 

He goes on to explain that, if The Flash falls somewhere in that projection, it won't even make back its $150 million marketing spend (never mind production costs). As a result, Warner Bros. Discovery would have actually lost less by either not releasing the movie or dropping it on the Max streaming service. 

By the time all is said and done, The Flash will almost certainly lose something like $200 million, a catastrophic result which is bound to raise some hard questions at the studio in the months ahead. 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, of course, and Warner Bros. likely believed that key endorsements from David Zaslav, James Gunn, and Tom Cruise would be enough to guarantee a hit. As well as hailing The Flash as being "one of the greatest superhero movies ever made," the studio held an early CinemaCon screening meant to build hype (and most of the social media reactions from that were glowing). 

Moviegoers ended up rejecting the DC Comics adaptation, though, probably because they've grown tired of the brand thanks to movies like Wonder Woman 1984, Black Adam, and Shazam! Fury of the Gods. Knowing a reboot is on the way also doesn't seem to have helped increase interest in the current DCEU. 

With this movie on course to become a financial disaster in the same vein as 2017's Justice League, there's already speculation about whether this could lead to another major shakeup.

That's already happened courtesy of DC Studios, but as Fernando posits, should Blue Beetle and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom bomb, "Will WB afford [to produce] CBMs in 2024 without cutting their budgets considerably? Will investors risk their $ again at WB?"

Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below. 

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thedrudo
thedrudo - 6/26/2023, 9:39 AM
I really don't see BB doing that well. Aquaman is a toss up but after the abysmal turnout for The Flash, I tend to think that one will really underperform too.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 9:50 AM
@thedrudo - Batman Begins? “Naw Breaking Bad, ya moron”
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 9:58 AM
@thedrudo - The first Aquaman made over a billion and it wasn't even that good, I could still see it being successful.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/26/2023, 10:35 AM
@thedrudo - Two bombs.
Still, BB wont be that big of a bomb because of how cheap it was to make.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 10:37 AM
@soberchimera - Jason Mamoa’s popularity was at an all time high
DiegoMD
DiegoMD - 6/26/2023, 10:40 AM
@thedrudo - I think that the opposite will happen. Latinos and Cobra Kai fans will support Blue Beetle, also people might check it out because it's supposed to be part of the new DCU unlike Aquaman 2.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/26/2023, 10:48 AM
@DiegoMD - you all overrate how much general audience knows about the reboot

DC as a brand is tarnished
LSHF
LSHF - 6/26/2023, 10:51 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Yes, there is a tendency for many hard core fans to assume the majority knows what they do.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 11:12 AM
@TheWalkingCuban - Not really, Aquaman came out 7 years after he had been killed off on Game of Thrones and he had a slew of box office bombs/straight to DVD films/cancelled tv shows after GoT like Conan the Barbarian, Wolves, Frontier.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 11:27 AM
@soberchimera - All. Time… medium high. To high. You can’t sit there and tell me the cave rapist wasn’t still making women swoon off of his short lived yet monumentally viewed reviewed and threeviewed stint on GoT. I accept your apology.
iceballsreborn
iceballsreborn - 6/26/2023, 11:29 AM
@soberchimera - aquaman making a billion is like the big bang.. apperently it happened, but i dont get it.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 12:09 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - Less time has passed since the first Aquaman film (4 1/2 years). His popularity peaked with that film and he's been praised as one of the few redeeming qualities in the new F&F movie, which has already made back it's budget and then some. And did you forget a little movie called Dune?
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 12:17 PM
@soberchimera - Dune didn’t set the world on fire. Let me put it like this. Can you imagine Aquaman passing $1 billion without him being Khal Drogo 7 years before that? If you can, or if you can’t, then, this conversation is over in disagreement or agreement. I’ll tell you, there’s no way. It was simply the perfect combination, his Game of Thrones, popularity, plus the superhero movie popularity. He would not be the sex symbol that he was during Aquaman, without being a sex symbol that he was during Game of Thrones, no matter the failures in between. That’s all I have to say about it, enjoy your day.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 12:30 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - And where was that GoT popularity when Conan the Barbarian bombed? The first season concluded 3 months before that movie came out.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 12:34 PM
@soberchimera - I mentioned 2 circumstances, one, his movies, that failed, two, the superhero one that did not. Know if you want to say that all other movies always make as much money as superhero movies do, be my guest. I don’t say that, and I won’t say that. It’s going to be your avatars and fast and furious, Mission impossible, all the stuff like that that can compete with the superheroes. Remember, when the judge with Robert Downey, Jr., passed age of Ultron? Me neither.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 12:39 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - His movies wouldn't have failed if he was at the height of his popularity post-Game of Thrones and beyond like you say. If a film or tv show failed post-Game of Thrones but before Aquaman, he was obviously not at the height of his popularity. There were other factors at play such as Aquaman being a unique superhero premise, James Wan's involvement, the massive budget, etc.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 12:43 PM
@soberchimera -
You’re stubborn and I love that aboutcha! puh puh puh PAYCE!
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 12:47 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - Providing examples to back up my argument makes me stubborn apparently...
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 12:55 PM
@soberchimera - well I didn’t agree with you, but when you said that the justice league is why Aquaman passed $1 billion, that’s when I change my mind. You didn’t say that, but let’s say you said that and call it a day. You win
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 12:59 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - How is that at all logical? JL was a critical/commercial disaster.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/26/2023, 1:03 PM
@soberchimera - come on now. It’s completely unridiculous. I have no data to back that up. And just like that, you’re Cap and I am Tony. We have now switched sides, may Civil War 2 begin. OK man I’m driving, let me listen to some music lol.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 6/26/2023, 2:09 PM
@DiegoMD - cobra Kai fans aren’t going to support something just because one of their actors is in this. Now Latinos might but the marketing for this has been kinda bad.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2023, 3:23 PM
@soberchimera - To be fair, GoT season 1 was cult, but by 2018 it was the biggest show on earth.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 4:22 PM
@ObserverIO - Each episode was averaging over 2 million viewers over the course of the first season, those are hardly cult numbers for a premium cable show, that's a hit. And Momoa was off the show for 7 years in 2018.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2023, 4:28 PM
@soberchimera - Is 2 million a large amount in this world of 8 billion people? I remember that a certain type of person was watching during season 1. Geeks. Die-hards. But by 2018 every member of your family was watching. Even the family dog was watching.
And in the world of streaming they all started from season 1. DVD box sets, pirate sights, streaming, etc. I don't know what the actual network ratings were, but irl there were way more people watching the show at that point, than had been watching before.

Now you would be hard pressed to find somebody who hasn't seen it. It wasn't like that when it first began, it was just the cool kids, not the cool kids grandma's.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 4:32 PM
@ObserverIO - There were definitely way more people watching it in 2018, but those S8 numbers probably didn't help Aquaman's box office considering he was killed off in S1.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2023, 6:00 PM
@soberchimera - Man, you know talking about GoT season 1 is actually making me wanna watch it again. Such a hardcore beginning for a series. Killing the main character at the end of the beginning. And for some reason I remember Momoa and Kaleesi as being downright pornographic.

But I know if I watch it I'll just end up watching all of it and then hit that big hard brick wall that is Season 8. So maybe I should refrain from watching it again and save myself having to relive the disappointment.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 6/26/2023, 8:16 PM
@ObserverIO - I still haven't finished season 4...
StSteven
StSteven - 6/26/2023, 9:11 PM
@iceballsreborn - Well, you see, a bunch of different elements all got together in the same place at just the right time, and they interacted in a very specific and unique way that resulted in an event that the universe as we know it is not likely to ever see again. And Momoa has killer abs, so "Aquaman" happened. Does that clear it up?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/27/2023, 4:22 AM
@iceballsreborn - Most believable theory I've heard is that James Wan has a lot of support in China and that's where most of the money was made.
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