Does Hayley Atwell's New Gig Signal The End For AGENT CARTER?

Does Hayley Atwell's New Gig Signal The End For AGENT CARTER?

Hayley Atwell is starring in a new pilot for an ABC legal drama which may indicate that Agent Carter will not be returning for a third season of adventures. Read on for additional reporting.

By MarkJulian - Feb 11, 2016 11:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Agent Carter

Hayley Atwell will play the lead in a new legal drama on ABC which is hoping to get picked up for the Fall Season.  However, TV Line and Entertainment Weekly have both confirmed that should "Conviction" get picked up to series, Atwell will star in both shows.  Still, with Agent Carter not exactly knocking it out of the park in the ratings department, there's still no guarantee that a third season of the Marvel period drama will be greenlit.

 To date, Marvel's Agent Carter is averaging a .86 in the key, 18-49 age group demographic and 2.93 million viewers. In comparison, Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. averages a 1.43 in the 18-49 demographic along with 3.92 million viewers.  The CW's Flash averages 1.41 in the 18-49 demographic and 3.63 million total viewers.  This season, Arrow is averaging 1.02 in the 18-49 demographic and 2.68 million viewers.  Over at Fox, Gotham is averaging a 1.51 in the 18-49 demographic along with 4.32 million viewers.  CBS' Supergirl leads all superhero TV shows this season, averaging a 1.83 in the 18-49 demographic and 8.29 million viewers per show.

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SoulEaterRising
SoulEaterRising - 2/11/2016, 11:21 AM
I hope not, I love this show!

It's writings so good, and the characters are so developed...unlike Agents of Shield
BlackConvoy
BlackConvoy - 2/11/2016, 11:21 AM
I don't care as long as I get to see Haley Atwell on TV on a regular basis.
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 2/11/2016, 11:22 AM
It will be a shame if this gets cancelled, heck I enjoy AOS but this is even better. Don't understand why no one watches it.
Guess your average person doesn't watch that many comic book show.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:28 AM
@SimplyAz - NO one watches it, because there aren't any major characters on the show. Carter herself is not a major character.
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 2/11/2016, 11:30 AM
@SAMURAI36

different strokes for different folks, I like it : )
SexyResults
SexyResults - 2/11/2016, 11:52 AM
@SAMURAI36 - Not to rant at you or anything but I can't stand that excuse of not watching a comicbook show b/c there are no heroes or major comic characters on it. That's the same crap people were harping on AoS for, "Where are The Superheroes?" even though it was never marketed as a superhero show. This is a nice interesting drama with an exciting plot and characters that just happen to be set in a superhero universe. Does anyone not appreciate good TV anymore.
126thst
126thst - 2/11/2016, 11:23 AM
I hope so!
TheBeard
TheBeard - 2/11/2016, 11:25 AM
She really needs to drop that restraining order and just marry me already.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:26 AM
I've been saying for months now, that Marvel TV is basically a flop. Carter especially. The only reason ABC is keeping it on, is because Both ABC and Marvel are owned by Disney, and they want their own home-grown CBTV show to compete with what DC is doing on TV.

However, the reality is, if this were a non-Marvel show, Marvel would've cancelled this as well as AoShit a season ago. ABC has cancelled shows with higher ratings in the past, so there's really no other reason that these shows have lasted as long as they have, except that they wanna remain in the CBTV runnings.

All this does is exasperate my point, that the viewers that are showing up in droves for Marvel's massive movie machine, are not showing up for Marvel's TV output, and that includes the Netflix stuff. All of Marvel TV is barely bringing in 4M viewers consistently, and that's with A) being on a major network, B) having the benefit of a streaming service, and C) being "connected" to the movie universe.

Meanwhile, DC has virtually none of this going for them, and they are still holding their own. Very telling
LMB10
LMB10 - 2/11/2016, 11:31 AM
@SAMURAI36 - You do realise Daredevil is the most watched original series on Netflix, right?
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 11:32 AM
@SAMURAI36 - Where are you getting your Netflix data and if you say NBC I think you might want to take your head out of the sand?
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:34 AM
@LMB10 - That's like saying Flash is the most watched series on the CW. Netflix doesn't pull in huge numbers either.

And last I checked, both DD and JJ barely did a little over 4M viewers. Why is that so great?

Especially when DD and JJ are more closely aligned with the MCU, and yet they still aren't pulling the movie viewers in?
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 11:37 AM
@SAMURAI36 - Netflix data is not released to the public and those figures you are quoting are some BS metric that NBC made to try and make Netflix look like they aren't a threat. Are you really going to believe that those numbers are accurate. There collection method was an absolute joke.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:37 AM
@Asmodeus - Well, since Netflix didn't actually refute those numbers, I don't see any reason to doubt them. Especially when you consider the amount of Subscribers Netflix actually has. There are more subs to HBO than there are to Netflix. And HBO's top show, which is Game of Thrones, barely pulls in 5M viewers.

So if you think Marvel Netflix is breaking any sort of TV records, then it's not my head that needs to be pulled for the sand.
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 11:40 AM
@SAMURAI36 - Netflix absolutely refuted those numbers. There president said it was a joke and even went onto say that if NBC wants to spend their time worry about our numbers it should be a really big clue to how NBC feels about us.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:50 AM
@Asmodeus - Yeah, I read that link already, the same time that everyone else did. Not once, aside from their snide remarks about NBC, did they actually refute the data that NBC provided. Nor did they give any actual insight into their internal ratings system, which they no doubt have access to.

It's not enough to say "nope, they are wrong!", without actually proving how they are wrong.

If they were able to fool you with that, then shame on you.
DallasAvenger
DallasAvenger - 2/11/2016, 11:57 AM
@SAMURAI36 - I think you are forgetting the international television market that their Marvel shows benefit from that most of their other shows don't.
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 12:04 PM
@SAMURAI36 - “remarkably inaccurate” - yeah he never refuted them. I don't know why I continue to engage you.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 1:29 PM
@Dallas Avenger -

I have no idea what this means. What "international TV market"?

@Asmodeus - I don't know why you engage with me either, especially since that's not what refutation actually means.

Refuting something isn't merely saying "no, they are wrong".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refute

1: to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous


I challenge you to quote within that article, where the Netflix people actually proved with DATA, that NBC's claims were wrong. I already know you won't be able to do it, and so do you.
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 11:28 AM
I think what this article is missing is that Arrow's rating are actually really good for CW while Agent Carter's ratings are absolutely dismal over at ABC. It is almost certainly going to get cancelled. I be willing to bet we see Most Wanted show occupying Carter's time slot next year.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:31 AM
@Asmodeus - None of the Marvel TV stuff pulls in good ratings for ABC. Shows with AoShit's ratings have been on the chopping block before.

And now they wanna bring in even more non-descript shows with more Z-Listers, that no one will give .0001% of a f&ck about???
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 11:35 AM
@SAMURAI36 - You are clearly very bias. AoS pulled above average ratings for the network in S1. In S2 & S3 (so far) are just below the network average. Is it a ratings smash? Absolutely not. Is it a ratings failure? No. S4 is a lock because of syndication. S5 maybe not but S4 is a no brainer. Agent Carter is probably not coming back through.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 11:46 AM
@Asmodeus - Of course I'm biased, but that doesn't make me wrong by default. As opposed to you, who is.... Not biased? But are making all sorts of erroneous statements.

Such as:

AoShit's Season 1 started out at a high, but then continued to tank as the season came to an end. This is easily researchable, and if you need me to, I can post links.

Then S2 started, and the numbers continued to tank even more. That's when the discussion of whether the show was on the chopping block or not started.

That's also when Clark Gregg started sniping at the "fans", calling them "losers and haters", because they stopped watching the show because it didn't have any major characters on it.

With S3, it's the lowest of any ABC show currently on, with the exception of Carter.

And again, there are shows that have been better produced, with much higher ratings from ABC, that have been cancelled. Reference "V", and "Flash Forward" as examples.

So now what's your point?
Asmodeus
Asmodeus - 2/11/2016, 12:03 PM
@SAMURAI36 - My opinions are based on data the is released to the public by creditable sources.

AoS season 1 average: 2.4
AoS season 2 average: 1.59
AoS Season 3 average: 1.42
Source: TVByTheNumbers.com

ABC average ratings for the network float around 2.0. So in season 1 AoS outperformed most shows on ABC so it gets renewed. Season 2 was around 85% which isn't stellar but not bad, and any show that makes season 3 is almost certain to get a Season 4 because of syndication money. These are facts.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about as here are some other ABC shows doing worse.

Nashville: 1.03
Castle: 1.13
American Crime: 1.0
Galavant: 0.64
Dr. Ken: 1.19
Last Man Standing: 1.25

Yeah AoS is clearly the worse rated show on ABC. I am not saying their ratings are "good". If AoS was in season 1 with these ratings it would be cancelled but in season 3 it is safe. Season 5 is very questionable it would depend on what kind of money the show makes now that it has reached syndication.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 2/11/2016, 12:42 PM
@Asmodeus - All you did was repeat what I'd already said. This shows that you're not really reading what I'm saying. I already talked about how AoShit's numbers were tanking. All you did was confirm that. What was the point of that?



As far as the syndication part goes, sure, that'll likely happen, but not because of the reasons you are implying.

Here:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/09/22/abc-renewcancel-agents-of-shield-is-a-sure-bet-for-renewal-in-2016/

And ONCE AGAIN, this ties directly with what I said in the first place, that the only reason the show sticks around, is because it's produced by the network that airs it.

So once again, what was your point of that?

As far as shows that are doing worse that AoShit:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/01/26/abc-renewcancel-standings-week-18-agent-carter-takes-a-fall/

Those shows are on the chopping block as well. Some have already been cancelled. But you missed the part where I mentioned ABC's agenda behind these shows.

For example, ABC is keeping OUAT on as well, even though it's doing poorly as well. I suspect this is due to WB approaching ABC several years ago, about doing a Fables TV show, and ABC rejected the idea, but then came up with OUAT shortly thereafter, as their own home-grown alternative alternative.

And none of this negates the fact that ABC has cancelled shows with better ratings in the past. You can choose to ignore this fact all you want.
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