AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Star Clark Gregg Addresses Fans Who Question Its Canon Status: "Go F*** Yourself"

AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Star Clark Gregg Addresses Fans Who Question Its Canon Status: "Go F*** Yourself"

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Clark Gregg has shared a blunt response to fans who continue to question the MCU canon status of the popular ABC series, letting them know that they can "go f*** [themselves]."

By JoshWilding - Oct 27, 2025 07:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Source: Slash Film

When Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. first premiered on ABC, it was meant to be part of the MCU. After a rocky start, The Avengers spin-off found its footing in the second half of Season 1 and excelled with a storyline tying into the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

However, as the years flew by, the series became further removed from what's since been dubbed the "Sacred Timeline." We've since learned that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige didn't want any of the Marvel Television shows to happen; they were former Marvel Entertainment Chairman Ike Perlmutter's doing.

After years of clashes, when the opportunity presented itself, Feige talked Disney CEO Bob Iger into allowing Marvel Studios to oversee everything by producing MCU-set TV shows for Disney+. 

The canon status of both Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter has been hotly debated for years. Many argue that they're clearly part of the MCU, an argument which carries a little more weight now that the "Defenders Saga" appears to have been folded into the Sacred Timeline.

Appearing at New York Comic Con (via Slash Film), Clark Gregg, a mainstay of Marvel Studios' Phase 1 storytelling, weighed in by saying, "There [are] some people who talk about canon. You can go f*** yourself. We're proud of what we did. We're proud, really deeply proud, of the connection we have with people like you who come visit and hang with us."

Marvel Studios has already contradicted Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to some extent, with WandaVision's Darkhold perhaps the most noteworthy example. Still, the series established that the ancient book could change its appearance, making it an easy-to-ignore contradiction if Agent Coulson and company were to enter the MCU.

The studio would likely ignore ideas and storylines that would impact any big-screen plans, with the Inhuman storyline surely one Feige and company would be looking to move past and forget as quickly as possible. 

Earlier this year, Marvel Studios' Head of TV, Streaming, and Animation, Brad Winderbaum, was asked about where things stand with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter

"Well, I'll tell you this, and put it to you like this. It's exciting for me to think about how to square those ABC shows with the canon," the executive teased. "That, to me, if you know me and the way my brain works, that is fun territory to imagine."

Reading between the lines, it seems they're canon if you want them to. As for whether characters like Quake, Melinda May, Coulson, and even the Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider could show up again, it does appear as if Winderbaum is eager to fold them into the wider MCU when the opportunity to do so presents itself. 

Do you think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canon in the MCU?

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Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 10/27/2025, 7:34 AM
It's always a good move to tell fans of your work to "go fuuck themselves". 🙄
DocSpock
DocSpock - 10/27/2025, 8:04 AM
@Feralwookiee -

It’s always worked for me.

JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 10/27/2025, 8:46 AM
@Feralwookiee - I think I like him more now
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 10/27/2025, 10:50 AM
@Feralwookiee - nobody who claims Agents of SHIELD was non canon are his fans. If they were HIS fans, or fans of the show, they were on the side of campaigning it was canon. Your comment is nonsensical.

Besides, the MCU went the multiverse route in canon, so now literally everything is "in canon" which definitely includes Agents of SHIELD. Besides, the inclusion of Garvis in Endgame made the show canon to the movies.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 10/27/2025, 10:51 AM
Jarvis*
theBlackSquare
theBlackSquare - 10/27/2025, 7:35 AM
Pretty sure that anyone who harps on about canon is already a black belt in [frick]ing themselves.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/27/2025, 7:36 AM
The question of its Canon status is or was never a dig at its quality. On the contrary, Most would agree its an incredibly produced show. The question of its Canon comes from some inconsistencies with the mcu and thus to protect ones own enjoyment of the mcu's cohesiveness, its easier to say agents of shield takes place in an alternate universe [which may or may not have an incursion with the 616 in secret wars]
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/27/2025, 7:52 AM
@Vigor - I get what you mean but some of those debates were indeed about its quality aswell.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/27/2025, 7:56 AM
@Vigor - I guess it's a question of art vs world-building. For me, as long as the individual stories are compelling and the characters are well written, I generally DGAF about canon. Gregg is a Serious Actor who cut his teeth with David Mamet at the Atlantic Theater Company, so I would imagine he's definitely prone to err on the storytelling side of things vs strict, religious deference to canon.

Of course, oeveryone has their line. For example, if a character is killed in one episode, and then returns in a subsequent episode without any explanation, that's a problem. But gently retconning things from time to time is how stories keep moving forward. It's how the comics have always operated, so I have no problem with the movies and TV shows doing the same thing.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 10/27/2025, 8:18 AM
@Vigor - It started out as cannon and fit in perfectly with the MCU. Then it was a stark split after the Winter Soldier story. There is no way the Inhumans and Alien Kree world breaker story (which went on way too long) fit into a world with other heroes and villains
Vigor
Vigor - 10/27/2025, 8:21 AM
@Bucky74 - exactly. And I didn't feel like jumping through mental hoops to make it make sense
Alternate universe narrative cleans it up neatly and frees it from the shackles of mcu for wider storytelling
mountainman
mountainman - 10/27/2025, 8:50 AM
@Bucky74 - Yes. We don’t necessarily need the question answered by someone from the show. OBVIOUSLY it’s not set in the mainline MCU. Far too many inconsistencies that come up in the later seasons of the show. It’s another Earth that had all the same main events occur up until Winter Soldier. In the main MCU timeline the first few seasons of this show would have played out very similarly. But it’s definitely its own thing.
seakhan
seakhan - 10/27/2025, 9:57 AM
@mountainman - Not OBVIOUS at all! It's *not* a binary "the whole show is mainline MCU or it isn't". The show was so firmly set in the main MCU for season 1 that Lady Sif and Nick Fury both showed up. The whole point of AoS is that they deal with stuff that's way below everyone else's radar that you can have Inhumans in the MCU without anyone else knowing about it. The Avengers didn't even know that Coulson was alive & gave them the 411 on Strucker's castle & Loki's scepter for the Age of Ultron opening. The show's narrative branches off the sacred timeline and onto another at the very tail end of season 4 when the team jump into the future for season 5. When they come back to the present, it's no longer the sacred timeline, they're on a branch (and by season 7 they're on branches of that branch). But this is not that hard of a concept to grasp -- they were on the sacred timeline, then they weren't. Deke even name-drops the Multiverse in season 5 to underline this point. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/27/2025, 11:56 AM
@mountainman - They very specifically advertised the show as "this is part of everything" So it's not that obvious.

Feige just took control of everything and decided what was and wasn't part of the sacred timeline, which is fine, it's his prerogative to do so.

What bothers me is the gaslighting of him and others saying it never was. It's absolute bullshit when you can pull up the marketing for the show and see that at one time it absolutely was. They just retroactively decided it wasn't.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/27/2025, 12:01 PM
@mountainman - on the back of the dvd for season one the first sentence says it's a continuation of the Avengers.

One of the special features is "Marvel Studios: Building a Universe" that talks about building out the MCU at the time, and SHIELD is a part of it.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/27/2025, 2:47 PM
@SATW42 - Yes they intended that to be the case through the first two seasons. They are obviously not in the mainline MCU universe in later seasons.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/27/2025, 2:49 PM
@mountainman - I hear you, ultimately none of this matters, my point is just against the "it never was part of it" crowd. It's either misinformed or disingenuous.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/27/2025, 2:50 PM
@seakhan - You can envision it in your head however you would mine. I won’t allow some marketing comments to influence how I interpret it. Sure maybe these characters were in the mainline timeline in earlier seasons then branched off. OR as I stated maybe it’s just a world that had a very similar history to the main one up to a certain point before it deviated. I really don’t care and don’t understand why some people are so pedantic about something so trivial.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/27/2025, 2:52 PM
@SATW42 - Oh the intention certainly was at the beginning for it to be in the MCU. I just feel like the multiverse makes this stuff very easy to explain away. It could have been a universe that had all of our same history up to a certain point, and the things from the first few seasons of this show could have played out the same way by the same people in our universe. Then it diverted. So I’m only speaking of where the show ended at the conclusion of its narrative.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/27/2025, 2:59 PM
@mountainman - yes, agreed. It ABSOLUTELY shifted. I'll. just disagree with you that it shifted at winter soldier, because the show DIRECTLY tied into age of ultron. Theta protocol was the name of the project to maintain a helicarrier after the events of winter soldier. That's how fury gets it to help the avengers in Ultron and he even has the line about getting it "from some old friends" which we all know are the agents of shield.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 10/27/2025, 3:18 PM
@Vigor - I mean the canon or not wasn't even up for any debate at all until after Infinity War dropped and season five onwards of the show with zero contradictions of any significance at all up until then. AFTER Endgame a couple things in the films/D+ shows were contradictory but non more so than Odin's Throne room differing a lot every time we saw it in movies, the initial stated FOUR YEAR time jump from Civil War to Homecoming in the first solo Spider-Man movie (that was later retconned to only a couple months after not years) OTHER than the very end of the series where they literaly did jump timelines to where SHIELD was fully up and running again (which is easily stated as being a branch/alt timeline).

IOW, other than the VERY last season and resulting end point of the series in regard to SHIELD back fully there were no contradictions greater than those within the movies themselves cos the Darkhold one was never a huge deal as it was already stated as able to change appearance but mostly cos the book was ALWAYS a copy of the stone carvings (which in turn were also copies of the original text written on flesh in the source) thus no reason why there couldn't be more than one copy of varying accuracy (thus differences in use/power level) both called the Darkhold OR one could have been the copy of the carvings as mostly the comic Darkhold was and the other the original Chthon Scrolls bound together into a book the stone carvings were copied from.

TLDR Clark's FU comment was obviously toward those who were never fans of the show and want to use the 'not canon' argument to erase the shows existance completely and attack actual fans of the series (and/or the cast) when it never need be erased even if it WAS on an alt timeline or simply drifted into a branch timeline somewhere around season four or after.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/27/2025, 4:00 PM
@SATW42 - Oh yeah I thought that was super cool watching an episode of Agents of Shield then Winter Soldier then the follow ing week’s episode and it all tied together perfectly. Fun times. I think it was after season 4 that it really deviated.
seakhan
seakhan - 10/27/2025, 8:23 PM
@mountainman - So not OBVIOUSLY?
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 10/27/2025, 7:37 AM
Those of us who know it's not technically canon aren't questioning it; so no worries.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/27/2025, 2:09 PM
@IAmAHoot - right?! The show itself changes the timeline using a time travel plot. There's a good story reason for this to be a separate universe.
seakhan
seakhan - 10/27/2025, 8:30 PM
@ObserverIO @IAmAHoot - Yes, but 616 Sacred Timeline main MCU until season 5 time travel. Tie-ins to Winter Soldier, tie-ins to Age of Ultron, etc.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 10/28/2025, 2:58 AM
@seakhan - It’s a one-way relationship is where the whole initial problem stems from. The show references and relies on those movies and very much needs to; but those movies don’t reference the show at all whatsoever and they have no need to. The show could be said to just be clinging itself onto the MCU, as much stuff as there is that crosses over from the movies into the show.
seakhan
seakhan - 10/28/2025, 9:47 AM
@IAmAHoot - So what? That doesn't at all mean that the show wasn't main timeline MCU until season 5. It was & is great fun to watch the secret spies acting way under the radar. I for one loved how Coulson & crew on the show were the ones to locate Strucker's hide-out that led the Avengers there in the movie's opening scene -- Coulson was been working for them even when they thought he was dead. And Theta protocol was super-great (not to mention a nod to the TV show in the movie). ?si=eraMQwt93Qum5w6c
Spike101
Spike101 - 10/27/2025, 7:42 AM
We need Phil Coulson back in the MCU. As I’ve always said it’s supporting characters like him, Pepper, Peggy and Figgy and Karen that give the movies and shows depth. Without them and their backstories everything becomes far more shallow.
TheVisionary27
TheVisionary27 - 10/27/2025, 7:44 AM
Whilst I’m not an advocate of canon, I never watched the agents of shield because Coulson seemingly survived the fatal attack made by Loki in AA and this put me off. His death was the inspiration the team needed to call themselves by that name and to work together cohesively as a superhero team. Thanks to the multiverse narrative I can accept that he survived in a parallel timeline or something.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/27/2025, 7:48 AM
@TheVisionary27 - FWIW, they don't just lampshade that problem away. It's a central mystery that the show teases out over it's first few seasons. That said, I can't blame anyone that didn't see it through. The first season is kinda tough to get into at first, but it starts paying dividends following the events of Winter Soldier.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 10/27/2025, 7:51 AM
@TheVisionary27 - He didn't survive, he did die. Fury brought him back with alien tech and no other Avengers ever knew
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 10/27/2025, 3:30 PM
@TheVisionary27 -

1.) Even in the Avengers film it was heavily implied Fury lied regarding Coulson in order to inspire the team, Maria Hill called him out on the bloodied trading cards.

2.) He didn't survive, season one made it clear (eventualy, after it being an ongoing underlying question for a while) that he DID die but Fury used an experimental serum (from an alien corpse) and tech that they were working on (as a contingency in case any of their enhanced Avengers snuffed it) to bring him back from the dead.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 10/27/2025, 7:56 AM
I've been rewatching the show lately actually. I'm in season 6 now. This is like my 4th rewatch. I love this show's stories and it's characters.

It was pretty much canon until time traveling shenanigans happened in the later seasons where you could say the rest of it takes place in an alternate timeline. The Thanos attack on NY and Wakanda are plot points in it and I think the last connection to the MCU proper iirc
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/27/2025, 8:02 AM
Honestly , I would rage against people who thought the show wasn’t canon and endlessly debate with them but now I don’t think it really matters imo…

Sure I would still love if the show was “canon” and we see the likes of Daisy in the future but if not then that’s fine too since I still got one of the best comic book tv shows of all time out of it that I think actually got better (for the most part) as it freed itself from the restraints of MCU continuity.

It’s a show that gave me some incredible highs that even surpassed the wider MCU at the time and a connection to characters that hold a very special place in my heart!!.

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Vigor
Vigor - 10/27/2025, 8:13 AM
@TheVisionary25 - did you know there's someone going around with your name? But instead of 25 its visionary27

I only realized hes not you because he said he DIDNT watch agents of shield. And that was a clear indicator because I know you were all about that show
Vigor
Vigor - 10/27/2025, 8:13 AM
@TheVisionary25 - "but now I don’t think it really matters imo"

Thats called growth mindset!
JackDeth
JackDeth - 10/27/2025, 8:59 AM
@Vigor - I actually blocked Visionary27 for just this reason. lol
Vigor
Vigor - 10/27/2025, 9:05 AM
@JackDeth - ha. Im gonna do the same. Imposter
Temu visionary
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/27/2025, 8:07 AM
Either it's canon up until season 4 because of time travel, or everything is canon because every Marvel property is not part of the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
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