DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Star Charlie Cox On The Show's Tone And Whether It Adapts Frank Miller Story

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Star Charlie Cox On The Show's Tone And Whether It Adapts Frank Miller Story

Daredevil: Born Again star Charlie Cox has revealed whether the Disney+ series will feature a comedic tone and opens up on what the title means and whether it's meant as a nod to the Frank Miller story...

By JoshWilding - Sep 12, 2022 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: IGN

Marvel Studios brought Daredevil: Born Again to D23, but with cameras on the series not set to roll until next year, there wasn't really anything to show off to fans in attendance. 

On the plus side, star Charlie Cox did speak to the press before his Man Without Fear shows up in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law. That series has a very comedic tone, of course, so should we expect Daredevil's own series to be similarly wacky? "I don't think that would work," he says in the video below. "Not over the course of our entire season. Not with this character."

"I don't think it's necessarily truthful enough to the source material for it to really work."

Don't expect it to be all doom and gloom, though. "There's plenty of comics, Daredevil comics, there's plenty of runs where there is levity," Cox continued. "There's lightheartedness. There is fun. And I think with 18 episodes, you got time to do a bit of both."

During a separate interview with IGN, the actor was asked if fans can expect Daredevil: Born Again to be based on the comic book story arc of the same name by Frank Miller. "Great question, I don't know," Cox claimed. "I don't think it means we're gonna tell the Frank Miller story of Born Again in the comics. I don't think it means that."

"I think it means that we made the show, it ended, and now we're making another show. It's a perfect title."

This makes sense when season 3 of Daredevil borrowed from that storyline, and as Cox has previously said over the weekend, Daredevil: Born Again is a reboot for the MCU. While the eighteen-episode series' 2024 debut is still a long way off, we hope to have more to share about this one soon.
 


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Daredevil needs to be changed for his MCU debut!

7. Give Him The Damn Logo (And A New Costume)

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By far the most frustrating thing about Marvel Television's shows was the old-fashioned mindset about superhero costumes. That was evident from Inhumans and Iron Fist, and while Daredevil did get to suit up, it was in a generic (and over-explained) get-up that was missing one key component. We are, of course, talking about the "DD" logo that, for whatever reason, was absent from his suit.

In She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, the Man Without Fear will don a version of his original red and yellow costume. That's far from a bad thing, though it seems the logo still won't be front and centre. We'd definitely like to see the classic red suit return at some point, but plenty of artists have made that original design look badass on the page, and we're sure that will be the case on Disney+ too.
 

6. A Completely Fresh Start

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There was a lot to like about the three seasons of Daredevil that originally streamed on Netflix, but there was also an awful lot wrong with them. Whether it was Karen Page's baffling transformation into an investigative journalist, Foggy Nelson's irritating attitude towards Matt's life as Daredevil, or Elektra's wholly unnecessary demise, Marvel Studios has quite a bit of bad storytelling to sift through.

With that in mind, it's obvious a fresh start is needed. While this new show can certainly reference what's come before or bring back familiar faces, it should in no way be beholden to the continuity established by Marvel Television. Daredevil needs a fresh start in the MCU and, given the nature of the Multiverse, we can simply assume that those first few seasons took place in a different, albeit similar, reality.
 

5. A Fresh Take On Daredevil's Dynamic With Kingpin

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If there's something Daredevil did do well, it was exploring the hero's rivalry with the Kingpin of Crime, Wilson Fisk. Hawkeye left the villain in a somewhat uncertain place after Maya Lopez gunned him down, but we're confident he will return based on how a similar interaction played out in the comic books. Another season of Daredevil fighting Fisk sounds exciting, but is it the right call at this stage? 

After all, it's been done, and that's why we'd like to see this Disney+ revival establish a new dynamic. Depending on how things play out in Echo, why not make Fisk the new Mayor of New York City? Alternatively, he could be imprisoned and someone Matt has to represent as a lawyer or even just visit for advice, Hannibal Lecter-style. Either way, it's time to put a fresh spin on this familiar relationship.
 

4. A Superhero And A Lawyer

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We did spend some time in court in Daredevil, but as the show progressed, Matt's life as a lawyer became increasingly less important. It no longer felt like a vital part of his identity, and whether it's representing superhumans alongside Jennifer Walters or just assisting the little guy, we want more of that in this show. Even his scene in Spider-Man: No Way Home was a great tease for what to expect.

That's the route we hope to see Marvel Studios head down, anyway, and it goes without saying that the Man Without Fear's superhero adventures should have a big impact on his time in the courtroom (and vice versa). Giving Matt a high profile client to represent through this season would be no bad thing, though it will be important not to make it too similar to She-Hulk and Abomination. 
 

3. A New Supporting Cast

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For the love of God, no more Karen Page. Deborah Ann Woll is a terrific actor, but the character became beyond tedious to spend time with by Daredevil's third season, and there's really not much else to be done with her (unless Bullseye kills her early on and we see the hero head down the dark route Kevin Smith placed him on before Brian Michael Bendis took over for his acclaimed run).

The point is, it's time for some fresh faces to enter Matt's life. Kirsten McDuffie is a must, while Ben Urich should, without a doubt, be resurrected. More Foggy would be welcomed, but Stick and The Hand should be sidelined for the foreseeable. This also extends to Daredevil's villains because while we're keen to see Bullseye, why not make use of his entire rogues gallery? (Stilt-Man!)
 

2. More Mark Waid, Less Frank Miller

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Frank Miller's Daredevil run was superb, as was Brian Michael Bendis'. Ed Brubaker also deserves a special mention as he took the Man Without Fear to prison (a potentially very interesting premise for this show), but what if we move on from the grim and gritty era of storytelling featuring this character? It's admittedly what many fans love about him, but there are other great stories out there. 

Mark Waid's time writing the character instantly springs to mind; moving Matt to San Francisco, there were some darker elements to it, but it was also an era that brought the swashbuckling fun back to the hero we'd seen from in his earliest adventures. This would be something new for Daredevil on screen and would arguably fit much better into the tone of the wider MCU...while still getting a little dark!
 

1. A Major Player In The MCU

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Daredevil is a street-level superhero, and when The Avengers come knocking, he usually closes the door in their face. That's something we'd be happy to see remain the case, as the Man Without Fear joining the rest of Earth's Mightiest Heroes to face a Thanos-level threat...well, something about it just doesn't sit right. However, that doesn't mean he can't be important to the wider MCU. 

Whether it's taking on threats that do more than put Hell's Kitchen at risk or just teaming up with his fellow superheroes, Matt needs to become a pivotal part of this shared world. He's no longer sidelined on Netflix, and the obvious suggestion here is that he team up with the likes of Blade and Moon Knight in a Midnight Sons project down the line. Either way, we hope to see a lot more of him...
 

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mountainman
mountainman - 9/12/2022, 10:03 AM
It won’t adapt the Frank Miller story. Pieces of it already were for the Netflix show, it is too mature for a D+ property, and the name being used is just a nod to fans and represents that he is coming to the MCU officially.
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 10:05 AM
@mountainman - I don't think anyone expected a perfect translation. Especially since civil war set a precedent where they adapt the general idea of the plot but mainly do their own thing.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/12/2022, 10:08 AM
@Origame - I’ll argue that Karen won’t be a recovering drug addict and Matt’s identity won’t be outed. Those are the primary story elements of Born Again aren’t they?
Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/12/2022, 10:09 AM
@mountainman - I also don't think it will be adapting Born Again as Season 3 already did that.

But i disagree that it's too mature aswell. Disney+ is now home to Deadpool and Logan and all the stuff that use to be on netflix. Sooner or later they'll get a bit darker. The audience has also matured.

Daredevil is the perfect character to start going down that road before we see Deadpool and Blade back on screen.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/12/2022, 10:15 AM
@UniqNo - I imagine DD will be more mature than a lot of MCU content. I just don’t expect heads to be slammed into car doors. They can have brutality and mature themes and dial back the gore. I expect a hard PG-13 toure rating.
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 10:23 AM
@mountainman - it's pretty substantial yes.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/12/2022, 10:31 AM
@Origame - The other big theme was him questioning his religious beliefs, which the Netflix show did as well. I just think it’s a name from a big comic storyline that can also represent him coming to the MCU. Like Welcome Home for Spider-man.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 9/12/2022, 10:04 AM
Born Again is so good.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 9/12/2022, 10:54 AM
@PapaSpank54 - Man this is the Thor i wish we had in the MCU. A God, that is borderline scary with incomprehensible power.
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 9/12/2022, 11:29 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - the reason that scene works is because it’s street level looking up at gods. If it was from the point of view of the god and was a story about him I don’t think that would work. Granted, I don’t like several things Waititi did with the character but you get my point
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 9/12/2022, 10:08 AM
I just hope it does not become a "we got the character back" gimmick like with Spider-man.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/12/2022, 10:09 AM
"Cox has previously said over the weekend, Daredevil: Born Again is a reboot for the MCU"

No he hasn't. Just that it's a new story that's not picking up directly from the show that was set 8 years prior to the current MCU timeline.

That said, I'm liking what I'm hearing so far. They're gonna go for a new type of storytelling that will have levity but not to the extent that's in She-Hulk.

I just hope they also offer great cinematography and fight choreography. Multiverse of Madness and No Way Home have given me hope that they're willing to go for that.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/12/2022, 10:13 AM
He gets it so well. I love his understanding of the character.

There’s always levity with Matt but there is of course that foundation of pathos.


KWilly
KWilly - 9/12/2022, 10:14 AM
Wonder if it'll be TV-14 or TV-MA. The MCU has already shown they're not afraid of the big bad R with Deadpool 3 and Marvel Zombies show.

That being said, you can make a great Daredevil show with a TV-14 rating. Blood and guts doesn't equal quality writing.
AC1
AC1 - 9/12/2022, 10:20 AM
So Hawkeye established that Kingpin wasn't blipped, right? Seeing as Clint was only Ronin during the Blip and it was Kingpin, via the guy from the Tracksuit Mafia, who gave Clint the fake info that led Ronin to kill Echo's father.

But do we know if Matt was blipped? I think it'd be interesting if Daredevil and Kingpin still have a history in the MCU-proper, but Matt got blipped meaning Kingpin basically had 5 years to do his thing without having Daredevil on his back. Kinda sets up an interesting dynamic for this show then, where maybe Daredevil is suddenly finding himself going up against a slightly more seasoned Kingpin, while Kingpin is suddenly having to deal with an old nemesis he hasn't seen for half a decade.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 9/12/2022, 10:32 AM
It would be nice if it still had the same feel as Netflix
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 9/12/2022, 10:45 AM
I would guess the DD show would be more like Moon Knight than She Hulk in tone. A little comedy, a little drama, childhood trauma and some good ol fashioned action sequences.
MeAreLegend
MeAreLegend - 9/12/2022, 10:47 AM
So the title is basically... Daredevil: Homecoming

Also makes sense that it’s not really adapting Born Again as I feel like a lot of it was adapted in season 3 already
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 9/12/2022, 10:51 AM
Yeah season 3 was a loose adaptation of Born Again, so it won't be that probably. Man s3 was so good, some of my favourite Marvel adaptations. Up there with the Cap films and Endgame.
Fares
Fares - 9/12/2022, 11:02 AM
Even the Netflix series has some levity to it. But there's comedy that blends with the style of that series, and there's comedy that doesn't, and I trust them to know the distinction.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/12/2022, 11:14 AM
Makes sense, the third season of the Netflix show already kinda did Born Again anyway.

And I think he's right when it comes to the title. It probably has some narrative meaning, but just like Homecoming it's also just a way of showing it's a new thing.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 9/12/2022, 11:15 AM
Cox gets it. He just gets it🥲
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 9/12/2022, 11:44 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - he really does. I hope I get Cox one day

AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 9/12/2022, 11:53 AM
@MyCoolYoung -


Can wait until cox enters our eyes😐
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 9/12/2022, 11:40 AM
I just hope they don't lean too heavy into Waids run. But it's disney and this is what I'm fully expecting.
IMCOOLURNOT
IMCOOLURNOT - 9/12/2022, 11:55 AM
I'll wait until it comes out before a critic the show. My crystal ball ain't working too good.
Looking forward to this. Hope it "tries" to keep the mature tone it had on Netflix.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/12/2022, 1:28 PM
They should just do it like season 4 - let's see Bullseye!
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 9/12/2022, 1:57 PM
@Nightwing1015 - I really hope we see the return of Wilson Bethel's Bullseye.

What Charlie said here about the original series having ended and this being a new show makes sense and does not prevent this new series from using who came before. I think they wont necessarily be handcuffed to mentioning events from the previous series, but also wont contradict them either. Like Fisk in Hawkeye.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 9/12/2022, 1:48 PM
I think DD should've been a movie. Or just have him be in the next Spider-Man film. But a show will get it compared to what I believe is the best Superhero show of all time(behind The Boys). Just on a comparative level, they're battling a steep uphill. But I guess they gotta crank out content for Disney+, even if it's at Marvel's own peril.
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