ECHO Star Vincent D'Onofrio On Kingpin's Status After Season Finale: "I Think He’s Enlightened" - SPOILERS

ECHO Star Vincent D'Onofrio On Kingpin's Status After Season Finale: "I Think He’s Enlightened" - SPOILERS

The season finale of Echo indicated that Wilson Fisk may have undergone a profound change after his experience with Maya Lopez, but does actor Vincent D'Onofrio think the villain has really been "healed"?

By MarkCassidy - Jan 17, 2024 01:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Echo

In Marvel Studios' Echo, Wilson Fisk, aka the Kingpin, catches up with Maya Lopez after she put a bullet in his eye in the Hawkeye season finale. Initially, the villain is willing to forgive his former protégé, giving her the chance to one day replace him as the "queen pin." But when Maya rejects his offer, the gloves come off.

Spoilers follow.

In the season finale, Fisk fully intends to murder not only Maya but her cousin and grandmother, before Lopez manages to tap into her inherited Choctaw abilities and take out his men.

Maya decides not to kill her "uncle," instead using her healing power to rid him of the anger and hatred he's carried around since using a hammer to kill his abusive father when he was a child.

Then, in the post-credits scene, a news report seemingly inspires Fisk to run for Mayor of NYC.

So, is the Kingpin really a changed man?

“No, I don’t think that," actor Vincent D.Onofrio tells THR. "I want to do the right thing here and say something that is true, but not too revealing. I don’t think he’s changed; I think he’s enlightened. I haven’t seen a lot of the episodes of Echo. So, in my mind, after everything goes down with Maya, he gets on a plane, and the news is playing on the plane. It says, 'New York is going to be looking for a new mayor soon,' and as he’s watching it, a light bulb goes on. So, by the end of that flight, he decides, 'If I want to be all powerful, this is what I’m going to do.' That’s the most I can tell you. ”

It doesn't sound like Fisk will be putting his criminal ways behind him, and actually wants to accumulate even more power. But maybe he will approach things with a little less ruthlessness in Daredevil: Born Again? We can't imagine Maya's actions will have no effect whatsoever, otherwise what was the point?

All five episodes of Echo are now streaming on Disney+.

Echo is the first project under a new banner known as Marvel Spotlight, which takes its name from an anthology comic book series that debuted back in 1971 and was the origin of beloved Marvel characters like Ghost Rider and Spider-Woman.

“Marvel Spotlight gives us a platform to bring more grounded, character-driven stories to the screen, and in the case of Echo, focusing on street-level stakes over larger MCU continuity," said Head of Streaming Brad Winderbaum. "Just like comics fans didn’t need to read Avengers or Fantastic Four to enjoy a Ghost Rider Spotlight comic, our audience doesn’t need to have seen other Marvel series to understand what’s happening in Maya’s story.”

"Marvel Studios presents Echo in which Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) struggles to reconnect with her Native American roots while balancing aspirations tied to a life of crime as successor to the brutal legacy of Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) aka Kingpin," reads the most recent synopsis. "In the first episode, we are introduced to Maya Lopez and her struggles."

In addition to Cox, D'Onofrio and Cox (Charlie), the show will also star Chaske Spencer as Henry, Tantoo Cardinal as Chula, Graham Greene as Skully, Cody Lightning as Cousin Biscuits, Devery Jacobs as Bonnie, and Zahn McClarnon as William Lopez.

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

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WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/17/2024, 1:06 PM
Kingpin will always Kingpin, regardless if he gets the Choctaw whammy or not
Origame
Origame - 1/17/2024, 1:11 PM
All the magic healing powers and yet they can't cure deafness?
TheLobster
TheLobster - 1/17/2024, 1:30 PM
@Origame - lol
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/17/2024, 2:06 PM
@Origame - they did a shit job explaining her powers in general. the power of mcguffin i guess...
Origame
Origame - 1/17/2024, 2:28 PM
@mastakilla39 - the superpower of "a$$ pulls because the writers wrote themselves into a corner".

Also known as "plot armor".

At least it wasn't literal plot armor like in the mortal kombat movie.
TheLight
TheLight - 1/17/2024, 8:40 PM
@Origame - Or regrow a limb?
Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2024, 1:11 PM
It's like when a gangsta peddling rock on the corner, becomes enlightened and starts opening businesses marrying divas and investing in the city

Aka Jay z
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/17/2024, 1:50 PM
@Vigor - Or when a corrupt individual knows the only way to grow their corruption and silence their opposition without legal prosecution is to seek a political position

Aka Donald Trump
Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2024, 2:54 PM
@SonOfAGif - haha yes I agree. Just didn't want to bring in politics
This year will be a doozy
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/17/2024, 3:14 PM
@Vigor - Corruption isn't exclusive to politics but I definitely understand your point of view on the subject matter lol.
The1st
The1st - 1/18/2024, 8:47 AM
@SonOfAGif - The implications will be far reaching though potentially. I've somewhat agreed with Cusack's sentiment long before his comments.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 1/17/2024, 1:17 PM
Have Kingpin start recruiting some super villain body guards, somehow let him and bullseye put aside their differences so he is his main hitman, give us a punisher vs bullseye fight, have him create scorpion to go after spidey, stuff like tha
Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2024, 1:30 PM
@Matchesz - having Kingpin be a pseudo nick fury for street level villains is certainly what fans want
Matchesz
Matchesz - 1/18/2024, 6:22 PM
@Vigor - Not necessarily a Nick Fury but a mob boss with connections and buys villains off with the money he has, I remember in the Spiderman TAS he used the sinister six as his strike force
mountainman
mountainman - 1/17/2024, 1:22 PM
An interesting twist would be mayor Kingpin actually being “good”, but the good guys are trying to stop him due to his past behavior. The good guys are technically in the wrong at that moment. After Kingpin gains his power and position, he starts remembering his past and doing evil with it so after the good guys either give up or are rejected by the public, they have to go back and stop him.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 1/17/2024, 3:16 PM
@mountainman - that reminds me of the old Batman episode where Penguin got out of jail and tried to be good but people kept messing with him including Batman so he went back to being a villain again.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 1/17/2024, 7:10 PM
@mountainman - THE POWERS THAT BE CLEARLY ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO EXECUTE THIS PLOT.

I'd love to see this as a comic, written by Brubaker.

Bonus points if heroes for hire come to his defense. That would be delicious madness.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/17/2024, 1:23 PM
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/17/2024, 1:25 PM
Man if Kingpin ever fights Iron Fist he's gonna have a bad flashback with the glowing fist and all.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/17/2024, 1:27 PM
Godzilla Minus One Minus Color is known to only be coming in U.S. AMC theaters after having premiered 5 days ago in Japanese theaters everywhere. Set a reminder now! You have to search minus color
TheLobster
TheLobster - 1/17/2024, 1:29 PM
@bobevanz - hell yeah!
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/17/2024, 1:51 PM
@bobevanz - ?si=RI-nWM3NY2AOdmbe
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/17/2024, 2:02 PM
@EZBeast - its legit more terrifying than the color one... and thats saying something.

I legit can't wait to preorder this movie and watch it day one in my comfy home with surround sound lol
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/17/2024, 2:53 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - dude after reflecting more and more about this movie seeing it an image theater was one of thr best experiences I've ever had watching a film. His roar I think about constantly and how absolutely epic and scary it was. Add to it a fantastic soundtrack and it makes me contemplate buying an image set up at my house haha

You watch legacy yet!?!?
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/17/2024, 2:54 PM
I max...God I hate this new phone...
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/17/2024, 5:16 PM
@EZBeast - it wasnt just an AMZAING Godzilla film.. it was an AMAZING film period.

nahhhh, havent gotten to it yet, need to get AppleTv and what not. been busy with work, wedding stuff, football, fantasy hockey etc.... i'll get to it

whatd you think?? heard it sticks the landing very well
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/17/2024, 6:29 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - haven't finished it yet but stupidly got 7 day apple trail thinking I could just finish it fast but it turns out my TV is too old and apparently that 7 day trail doesn't jet you watch all of a show but instead like episode of it from earlier in the season and if you try to watch other episodes it automatically sets you up for the payment...

So it's going to be a whole for this guy.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2024, 6:48 PM
@EZBeast - you had me about to Google what an image theater was lol
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/17/2024, 7:35 PM
@Vigor - lmfao sorry dude. This damn phone is the worst for my hands to type on.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/18/2024, 7:59 AM
@EZBeast - yikes. sorry to hear that man. ill get to this, im just not sure when. if i can convince the future wife to watch with me itll be alot easier to get AppleTv lol
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/17/2024, 1:28 PM
In the comics, Fisk uses his resources to help people who were trapped in New York City after a Hydra attack, parlaying the disorder into a last minute candidacy for mayor.


MCU Fisk, post jail escape, should've used his resources to help some folks during the 5 years after the Blip. Would've been some dark days. Gives him some goodwill capital in the race. Would be a nice parallel with the comics story too.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2024, 1:31 PM
@GhostDog - there's so much story telling that could have been done in the 5 years since the blip.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 1/17/2024, 1:30 PM
They made Kingpin into a little bitch in the finale of Echo. Great job, Marvel!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/17/2024, 1:31 PM
You mean he was "humbled" lmao and that's what's wrong with this company right now, they don't even understand the characters. Hire some comic book writers ffs
TheLobster
TheLobster - 1/17/2024, 2:21 PM
@bobevanz - lol yup
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/18/2024, 9:31 AM
@bobevanz - Comic book writers write better stories. Why hire a writer who says I have never read a comic book.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 1/17/2024, 1:34 PM
He's bitchmade now.
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 1/17/2024, 2:00 PM
Why wasn’t he a “bitch” when Daredevil beat him? He didn’t even get physically beaten he went on a trip that made him relive his worst trauma in his life at the hands of a woman he raised and sees himself in. Of course he’s gonna need a moment to regroup his faculties.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 1/17/2024, 2:20 PM
@noahthegrand - for lack of a better word; it was just corny.

When Daredevil beat him - there was a natural progression leading up to it. There was actual battles and big fatal moves that all lead up to it. It felt earned.

Here he asks Maya to come home (after somehow surviving a shot to the [frick]ing face? lol does Marvel use AI for writing now?), she doesn’t, he gets mad and says kill everyone, she stops him by using some dumb magic and he gets shook. It’s dumb and meaningless with no arc whatsoever for him.

So yeah, he’s bitchmade now lmao
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 1/17/2024, 3:10 PM
@TheLobster - to be fair getting shot in the face is exactly what happened in the comics
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