ANDOR Showrunner Tony Gilroy Confirms He Has Ceased All Producing Duties On Season 2 Amid WGA Strike

ANDOR Showrunner Tony Gilroy Confirms He Has Ceased All Producing Duties On Season 2 Amid WGA Strike

After facing backlash for comments confirming he'd finished writing Andor season 2 shortly before the WGA strike began, showrunner Tony Gilroy now confirms he's ceased all producing duties on the series.

By JoshWilding - May 11, 2023 04:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Cassian Andor
Source: THR (via SFFGazette.com)

The Writers Guild of America strike has already started having a major impact on Hollywood, with Daredevil: Born Again forced to halt production mid-shoot in New York and work on the troubled Blade at a complete standstill. 

With many streaming TV shows written in advance, the likes of The Acolyte and Andor are able to continue shooting, though problems tend to arise when the main writer is also a showrunner and executive producer. That's the case with Tony Gilroy, anyway, and while he completed work on Andor's scripts prior to the strike, it's now been confirmed that he will not be working on the Rogue One prequel in any capacity. 

This comes after reports that Gilroy was still producing the Disney+ series, contributing to everything from casting to music-related duties. However, the showrunner now confirms that he hasn't been on set at all since the strike started on May 2.

"I discontinued all writing and writing-related work on Andor prior to midnight, May 1," he tells The Hollywood Reporter (via SFFGazette.com). "After being briefed on the Saturday showrunner meeting, I informed Chris Keyser at the WGA on Sunday morning that I would also be ceasing all non-writing producing functions."

This comes after another writer, Abdullah Saeed, demanded to see Andor's complete scripts and argued that if there's a single difference between those and what we see on screen, Gilroy should be kicked out of the WGA. 

Disney has reportedly told showrunners that they're expected to continue with their contractually obligated non-writing duties amid this strike, though that's been incredibly divisive and poorly received for the most part. The House of Mouse is also likely to struggle when it comes to enforcing this rule. 

There's no way Andor will do anything other than suffer without its showrunner's presence, especially as it means no on-set rewrites can take place. Without Gilroy there to call the shots, it's also unclear who's in charge. 

Andor season 2 is currently set to premiere on Disney+ in August 2024.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/11/2023, 4:21 AM
Spoilers, EVERYTHING IS SHUT DOWN. So can we skip the theatrics of an article on everything lol
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 5/11/2023, 4:27 AM
@bobevanz - we know Josh can't resist. He'll post another one in a few minutes
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/11/2023, 8:42 AM
@bobevanz - Except it's not. As stated in the article, Andor's production is continuing, just without Gilroy, which is newsworthy.
Saga
Saga - 5/11/2023, 4:30 AM
Good thing nobody gives a [frick]
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 5:23 AM
@Saga - idk it’s great they’re striking and are putting their foot down. If other parts of filmcrews also stood up for themselves it’d be great.

Writers getting royalties is a boon many of the „lower tier“ workers don’t even get.
Fixed times, callsheets being sent way on advance instead of a few hours before or simply more shifts and less blocks could enhance morale
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 11:44 AM
@Blergh - Call sheets are already required to be distributed at a minimum of 12 hours before the listed time. Call times are based on the negotiated turnaround times (Times between when you leave work and return the next day). Most unions get between 10 and 12 hour turnarounds. Call times are dependent on and shift according to wrap the day before or the mandated weekend turnaround length, which was negotiated by IATSE (the overarching technicians union comprised of several industry locals). Other than budget mandated daily lengths (ie: 12 man hour days which roughly works out to 10 shooting hours) fixed shifts are an impossibility. Almost all shows encounter exterior Night scenes or exterior day scenes where as the saying goes, "God is you're Gaffer." Meaning that daylight or nighttime are required for the shot. Of course this is also all dependent on cast and crew receiving scripts in a timely manner - which rarely happens (and often results in fines to the show, but not the writers themselves. In regards to block shooting, this became more prevalent since shows often return to rented locations or sets that are cost prohibitive to keep returning to, rather than filming everything they need there all at once. Again, a result of what the writers put on the page.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 12:41 PM
@Patient2670 - Here in Austria/Germany/Poland/France I've been getting call sheets a few hours in advance (like 4 or 5) at best. At worst even never got a callsheet and just got the call to get my legs moving and get to location.
I'm sure it's better in the US but stories from colleagues and friends sound like it isn't that far appart.
Some idiotic night shoot also tend to start at 8 and carry over to 9-10 here.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 1:22 PM
@Blergh - I'm sorry to hear that. Are you working union gigs? If so, I'm surprised nobody's filed a grievance.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 1:39 PM
@Patient2670 - we're not hired as film employees but under the same contract employees at newspapers get as we're technically working for a lifestyle magazine :(
We are producing their streaming content though.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 2:08 PM
@Blergh - That's rough. Good for you, making it happen though. Unfortunately for all of us, we get to do jobs that so many people are dying to do, that the powers that be will often just say take it or leave it and somebody else will be willing to do it.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 2:40 PM
@Patient2670 - I'd def be one of those that would take the scraps if I moved here but that's an industry problem. It's so easy to exploit people in this industry, I think the US has the best protection for filmmakers, still.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 2:55 PM
@Blergh - you're right, and I definitely recognize that I'm in a privledged position in an industry I love. And for the record, when I started, I definitely took scraps. The upside to that is the opportunity to prove yourself and show you're worth. Building a list of credits on your resume and working with as many different crews as possible allows you to eventually demand your worth or turn down a job if they won't meet your rate.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 5:12 AM
Why not shoot both seasons back to back if the show had been ordered for two seasons from the start?

You’re unnecessarily locking down writers, crew and cast down over the hiatus so they can’t take second position gigs and stretch production thin. Sure, I get that much of this show is shot on-location but having the benefit of knowing an end date for your show gives both you and the studio an advantage.

Just got off a production that shot three years worth of cooking content in a week (6 episodes per year). Obviously a miniature of what production for Andor was but the concept still stands
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 12:03 PM
@Blergh - The only ones who are contracted for more than one season at a time are known as "Above the Line". Actors, Producers and such. Crew members have always been freelance and even if they know for sure that they'll return after a hiatus, very often take work on other projects between seasons to supplement their incomes. Part of what the writers are fighting is what they call a "Gig Economy". They don't want to be considered freelance. However they are also saying that they want the ability to work on other shows between seasons. The problem is you can't have it both ways. And don't get me wrong, I firmly believe in a lot of what they're fighting for. Shooting seasons back to back is great in theory, just not practical. First, you have to account for the possibility of a show not doing well and being cancelled. That's way too much money for anybody to gamble. And again, partly because that would require the writers to have scripts completed in advance. Most shows and all movies have schedules and an end date. They are budgeted for a certain amount of shooting days. Of course, these will change by a few days here and there based on unforeseen circumstances, but I've never been on a show where I didn't know how how long the gig would last.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 12:46 PM
@Patient2670 - in my personal experience it's rarely this narrowed down and by the book. Granted I've only been working for news/lifestyle media outlets in Europe and haven't gotten the chance to work on a professional scripted project (yet, knocking on wood there) but here it's almost always easier to preshoot material and roll it out over months.
In the particular show I described we took care of 18 episodes (6 a seasons). Those were about 5 chefs from various restaurants cooking a certain meal (fitting the theme of the season) for the 4 other chefs. The types of dishes (mexican, italian and styrian) are what seperates the seasons thematically. So instead of shooting at one chefs restaurant, leaving and coming back next season we had the cooking and tasting all in one day for all three dishes.

IMO it was faster and more efficient this way, plus the channel I got hired by was certainly saving some bucks on producing in one go instead of having to re-assemble the team each time.

As I said, certainly different in the US and different to being a scripted, high budget show but I feel like workers and studios are missing out on bulk production.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 1:37 PM
@Blergh -Yeah, it's a huge difference in the big budget scripted series and certainly big features. The show I just came off of we did 18 episodes for a single season. Big action, stunts and effects. We get 10 shooting days and one 2nd unit day per episode. Did you film the 3 seasons before selling it to a network or outlet? Or did the producers make a deal in advance for 3 seasons? That sometimes happens in the reality or competition world since the cost is significantly lower. Is this a union production? Non union shows tend to get away with a lot, and unfortunately often take advantage of their crews.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 1:41 PM
@Patient2670 - It was ordered for our streaming service in a full swoop, every hired gun got paid per episode while we got paid our regular fee.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 2:02 PM
@Blergh - So do you work for the streaming service rather than the show itself? I generally get hired by the producers and get paid a daily rate based on a 12 hour minimum (adjusted for things like meal penalties and overtime). Some crew members negotiate weekly rates. Series regular Cast, writers and such often get episodic rates, again negotiated by agents based on union rules and standards. Of course also factored in are fringe costs like health benefits and pension which the producing entities contribute to through the unions.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 2:39 PM
@Patient2670 - I technically work as video producer for a lifestyle magazine that used to produce videos for its subscribers and has launched a stremaing service last year. Now these videos have shifted to 20 minute shows and the company has enlarged our production team to 9 ppl from various backgrounds in film and TV.
The talent we hire for programming is on a per contract basis and we're getting paid like writers at the magazine do.
We're selling outselves under worth but sadly there's not much industry here.

I dream of going into scripted TV and movies as a director or writer but I'm happy getting small gigs as cam op for smaller indie movies for now. There's sadly not really a safety net for filmmakers in Europe, especially since streaming services are uncharted waters here (for now).
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 2:50 PM
@Blergh - I hear ya. The good news is that there are so many ways these days and technology available that you can write direct and shoot your own content pretty inexpensively as well as shop or distribute it yourself. I would encourage you to start putting together some sort of reel or portfolio to get yourself out there. That's how so many writer/directors are making names for themselves. I've worked with a couple of really big names who started out that way. I'm rooting for you.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 2:52 PM
@Patient2670 - Thanks man! I've finished my first feature film over covid, it's not at a stage I want it to go to festivals yet but maybe it'll get there when editing is done.
I'll try but I'm also just as happy getting to make stuff I love and earn a living with it (for now, my last job as a cam-op for a certain news company ended pretty badly)
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 3:07 PM
@Blergh - Congrats on finishing the feature. That's a huge accomplishment. I've learned that while you're making (and more importantly, paying for) your own project, make sure it's exactly what you want it to be. Once you start working with studios or somebody else paying for them, they will always demand a say in the final product. So, enjoy the autonomy while it's yours. When you're ready to show it, I look forward to seeing it.
As for the last gig ending badly? it happens. I've learned as much from the bad experiences as I have the good. Knowing what not to do is as valuable as what to do.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/11/2023, 3:10 PM
@Patient2670 - thanks for all the pointers! It's really helpfull for a new kid in the scene! How long have you been working?
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 5/11/2023, 3:32 PM
@Blergh - You're very welcome. I do hope they're useful. I've been doing this a really long time. I cringe to say that I've been in this business for coming up on 30 years now. Both the entertainment industry and old guys like me need the new kids and your energy.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/11/2023, 5:13 AM

One of the few good things since Mickey the Rat began his reign of terror, rape, & pillage of Star Wars.

And this happens.

Poop.

supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/11/2023, 9:25 AM
@DocSpock - STFU
Cap1
Cap1 - 5/11/2023, 10:21 AM
@DocSpock - at least we got the *perfect* first season, nothing can take that away from us
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/11/2023, 11:36 AM
@supermanrex -

Wow! There is a cogent & well thought out retort.

DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/11/2023, 11:37 AM
@Cap1 -

The bastards will try though.

Cap1
Cap1 - 5/11/2023, 12:00 PM
@DocSpock - if season 2 ends up bad then i’m just gonna pretend it doesn’t exist. I’m still hopeful but s1 was such a miracle, lightening doesn’t strike twice
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/11/2023, 1:25 PM
@Cap1 -

Season 1 was of course great, but I am just so happy with the character. Amidst the awful last SW trilogy & the horrible Solo, Rogue One was so great. I'll take more of those characters however we can get them.
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