STAR WARS Fans Rally Around Wookiepedia With #WeStandWithWookieepedia As THE ACOLYTE Trolling Worsens

STAR WARS Fans Rally Around Wookiepedia With #WeStandWithWookieepedia As THE ACOLYTE Trolling Worsens

Star Wars fans have hit back at The Acolyte's detractors by rallying around Wookiepedia after the website's authors were faced with abuse and death threats following the show's divisive fourth episode.

By JoshWilding - Jun 20, 2024 11:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: SFFGazette.com

While the percentage of Star Wars fans who are actually review-bombing The Acolyte is impossible to measure, there's no denying that the discourse surrounding the Disney+ series is starting to get increasingly toxic. 

Believe it or not, Ki-Adi-Mundi (a character we're pretty sure no one cared about 48 hours ago) may have been the straw which broke the camel's back. The prequel trilogy Jedi made a surprise appearance in the fourth episode of The Acolyte, though some were quick to point out that he shouldn't have been there.

Why? Well, in the Expanded Universe, he hadn't been born yet and, in The Phantom Menace, the Jedi Master argued that the Sith had been extinct for a millennium. The problem with this argument is that the Expanded Universe hasn't been "canon" in close to a decade and, when The Acolyte takes place, the Jedi has no reason to believe The Master is a Sith. 

As we first explained on SFFGazette.com, when Wookipedia - the Star Wars version of Wikipedia - updated Ki-Adi-Mundi's page to detail his appearance in The Acolyte, its authors and moderators were inundated with threats and abuse. 

That came after their social media accounts had previously shared their support for those enjoying the Disney+ series. In response to the trolling, Star Wars fans have rallied around the online encyclopedia by making it clear #WeStandWithWookieepedia.

The hashtag is still trending worldwide as social media users attempt to drown out those using grievances like this to attack The Acolyte. Some have legitimate issues with the series (which are valid), but there's a vocal section of fans who, based on their comments online, are incensed by the presence of female, diverse, or potentially LGBTQ+ characters. 

Then, there are those who have taken their unhappiness about the show too far and decided to attack their fellow fans for no discernable reason.

Check out some of the #WeStandWithWookieepedia X posts below. 

In The Acolyte, an investigation into a shocking crime spree pits a respected Jedi Master (Lee Jung-jae) against a dangerous warrior from his past (Amandla Stenberg). As more clues emerge, they travel down a dark path where sinister forces reveal all is not what it seems...

The series stars Amandla Stenberg, Lee Jung-jae, Manny Jacinto, Dafne Keen, Charlie Barnett, Jodie Turner-Smith, Rebecca Henderson, Dean-Charles Chapman, Joonas Suotamo, and Carrie-Anne Moss.

The next Star Wars TV series comes from creator and showrunner Leslye Headland (Russian Doll), who also serves as executive producer alongside Kathleen Kennedy, Simon Emanuel, Jeff F. King, and Jason Micallef. Charmaine DeGraté and Kor Adana are the co-executive producers, and Rayne Roberts and Damian Anderson are producing.

Four episodes of The Acolyte are now streaming on Disney+.

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Vigor
Vigor - 6/20/2024, 11:12 AM
Star wars "fans" prove yet again why they're the worst Fandom
captainwalker
captainwalker - 6/20/2024, 11:34 AM
@Vigor - They soak every dime out of a franchise and when it turns to shit you can't point it out. People are so weak and sensitive it's pathetic. If someone kills themselves because someone told them to then they too are pathetic, I'd suggest they should stay the hell off any social media.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/20/2024, 11:35 AM
@captainwalker - I can't tell. Are you like, defending this practice of sending death threats?
TREE24K
TREE24K - 6/20/2024, 11:37 AM
@Vigor - maybe a close 2nd to the toxic pro-wrestling fanbase. The tribalism over there is worse, I assure you.
oreilly
oreilly - 6/20/2024, 11:56 AM
@captainwalker - Buddy, you clearly don't understand how opinions work. Just because you think a franchise or a show is shit doesn't mean other people do. You telling someone that they're pathetic for thinking something and telling them they should die toxic and implies mental illness. There's something wrong with you if you do that. It's not a problem with the other person for getting affected by that. People think that they're bullet proof on social media and that they should be able to say whatever the hell they want. Except if you go up to someone in real life and threaten them, you get thrown in jail or punched in the mouth. How about not saying something on social media that you wouldn't say to someone in real life. Talk about pathetic.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 6/20/2024, 12:28 PM
@Vigor - Have you seen any proof of any death threats, especially from the entire fandom?

What you will find if you go looking is a ton of accusations being repeated over and over but no one posting proof.
You will find others in these threads from the article asking for proof. The responses never have proof but will have lots of excuses for why they refuse to show them if real. Where are the police reports or the posts showing the people who are banned from social media?

BTW all these accounts Josh has posted here are well known woke Disney shill ones.
VileBlood
VileBlood - 6/20/2024, 12:36 PM
@WarMonkey - People who constantly copy/paste political buzzwords are shills. Stop trying to act like you're some superior human being when you just proved you're a shill. I don`t expect a shill like you to even care what evidence is presented or not.
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 6/20/2024, 12:40 PM
@TREE24K - As someone who swims in both fandoms . . . yeah, it's not much fun being a normal person who likes things on the internet. Internet tribalism is sucking the fun out of everyting.
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/20/2024, 12:57 PM
@TREE24K - @clintthahamster nah man, the tribalism is definitely there and super annoying, but the fans of each federation don't openly abuse the talent of the rival organizations. Mostly. It's mostly just annoying back and forth more so than it is toxic.

Wrestling fans are also a surprisingly liberal bunch. No one gets mad at Kofi Kingston winning a championship just because he's black. No one cares about the sexuality of anybody, it just doesn't matter in today's wrestling war.

Shit fans started a whole revolution because they were mad the women weren't given MORE time, and Becky Lynch called herself "the man" and no one batted an eye (except that old drunk Flair)

Don't lump wrestling fans anywhere near these freaking losers.
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 6/20/2024, 1:04 PM
@SATW42 - Fair enough. I just wish there was SOME male dominated, very online fandom that wasn't even remotely toxic. I'd love to see this energy back in the discourse.
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NateBest
NateBest - 6/20/2024, 1:24 PM
@oreilly - I would suggest going back and reading @captainwalker's comment. At no point did he say that people should die...

I agree 100% with "How about not saying something on social media that you wouldn't say to someone in real life." I think everyone should live by that rule.
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/20/2024, 2:22 PM
@NateBest - "If someone kills themselves because someone told them to then they too are pathetic, I'd suggest they should stay the hell off any social media."

You're right, they didn't say people should die, but I think it's at the very least not cool to say someone going through some kind of personal battle who ends up ending their life is "pathetic" Even in a hypothetical situation.

There could be users here who are struggling and this kind of talk only reinforces their those kind of thoughts.

I don't think it's a HUGE ask to maybe not say people struggling with mental illness are pathetic?
The1st
The1st - 6/20/2024, 2:43 PM
@oreilly - There's quite a few of those, here there and everywhere...and they're feeling theirselves.

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TREE24K
TREE24K - 6/20/2024, 2:44 PM
@SATW42 - that's a very good take. And remember when Harley Cameron was pushing up on Anthony Bowens and he was like "Lady...I'm gay!" The crowd supported TF out of him and chanted along "He's gay!" in just the most wholesome way. That was good stuff.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 6/20/2024, 2:52 PM
@VileBlood - When people make accusations like this I'm gonna ask for proof. It's very surprising everyone doesn't demand proof for such serious accusations levied against a fandom of a franchise.

I don't think you know what that word you used means.

Definition of Shill:
1. One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
2. A person paid to endorse a product favourably, while pretending to be impartial.
3. An accomplice at a confidence trick during an auction or gambling game.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 2:56 PM
@NateBest - you said last week you were making an effort to improve moderation on this site and you let that slide. With everything you “tolerate” on this site you’re a toxic piece yourself I’m beginning to believe.
NateBest
NateBest - 6/20/2024, 2:58 PM
@OleBobbyTiger - What exactly did I "let slide"?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/20/2024, 3:26 PM
@Vigor - there's a minority of insufferable sociopaths in every fandom. This is a people problem, not a Star Wars problem. But it does take nuance to understand this. And perhaps a few social studies courses.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/20/2024, 3:29 PM
@NateBest - you didn't let anything slide. You pointed out what is obvious with the slightest of reading comprehension. The dude calling you a "piece" whilst demanding you moderate someone for disliking their take is ironically missing the point completely.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/20/2024, 3:33 PM
@McMurdo - true. But star wars has it the worst
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/20/2024, 3:38 PM
@Vigor - you won't be able to back that up with data unfortunately. It's any beloved IP nowadays.
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/20/2024, 3:44 PM
@NateBest - I think bobby is referring to what I was, "If someone kills themselves because someone told them to then they too are pathetic"

This is really not a good take on mental health, like at all. Some would argue it's a dangerous take.
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/20/2024, 3:50 PM
@NateBest - I mean, for me personally, you gave a list of "automatic bans" and one was

"Suicide (suggesting that a user take their own life, etc.)." Yeah, this guy didn't tell another user they should take their life, but saying someone who takes their life because someone else told them to, to me, seems to really straddle the "etc" part of that rule.

Maybe not an automatic ban since it's not a direct violation, but the groundwork was laid out that this would fall into a warning or a strike.

End of the day, your site, your rules, but I think this is was olebobby is getting at.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 4:44 PM
@NateBest - You let a lot slide honestly. And we all know it. But in this specific instance I'm referring to what @satw42 mentioned.

To add to that though, you recently posted about improving moderation and stated, "Attacking other users by calling them names, insulting their intelligence, etc. is not allowed and never has been." However, we can all see the comment sections, especially on articles related to Star Wars content, often devolve into name-calling and offensive language.

While there may be nuances in defining certain terms, it is clear that words like "idiots," "bigots," and "nazi" constitute name-calling. This kind of behavior directly contradicts the standards you set in your post.

It seems that despite your efforts, the situation has not improved, and the comment sections still contain hate-filled remarks based on race and sexual identity. Something most sites and legal professionals can agree falls under the category of trolling/bullying content. This pattern has continued for years, raising questions about the effectiveness of moderation.

I wonder if there is a genuine commitment to addressing these issues. Do you truly aim to improve the quality of the discussions, or is there a greater focus on generating views through provocative comment sections?
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 4:47 PM
@NateBest - By the way, I'm not saying this to insinuate that @twobyfour is doing a bad job. I think you tasked them with an impossible request by asking them to volunteer moderate but then admitting you aren't giving them the authority to follow through with it.
NateBest
NateBest - 6/20/2024, 7:18 PM
@OleBobbyTiger - For the record, I didn't ask anyone to volunteer for anything. @TwoByFour reached out to me and got the ball rolling.

Based on the two warnings that I've given today and yesterday (one for calling another user an "incel", and the other for insulting Josh), not to mention the comments I've deleted, and all of the information tracking warnings, strikes, etc., I would say there's a commitment to improving the community. Whether it ends up being an impossible task remains to be seen... I don't think it will ever be perfect, but I most definitely think it has room for improvement.

I would rather err on the side of users being able to voice their opinions openly than delete or censor them. If that's considered "letting a lot of things slide", I'm fine with it.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 9:11 PM
@NateBest - No worries. Everyone already knew nothing was actually going to change around here. Not the first time you’ve threatened to clean the place up with no action.
NateBest
NateBest - 6/20/2024, 9:15 PM
@OleBobbyTiger - Yep. That's exactly what I said. Thank you for clearing things up in case anyone else is confused 🤣🤦‍♂️
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 9:38 PM
@NateBest - Of course. Oh and Don’t forget to take breaks when you’re logging 1.5 strikes per day. Stress can be a silent killer after all.
TwoByFour
TwoByFour - 6/21/2024, 1:45 PM
@NateBest - @OleBobbyTiger - Thanks for tagging me. And I apologize for not being active this week. I'm a small business owner and some weeks just don't afford me the bandwidth to take care of my volunteering responsibility.

Regarding what Nate is saying, even he and I don't agree on everything. But we do agree that IN GENERAL there are steps to take to make improvements to this community.

One crucial piece to this puzzle is how we all interpret "opinions", "censorship", and "freedom of speech".

I personally believe in freedom of speech and that everyone is entitled to their personal opinions. (Key word: "personal") HOWEVER... I think people hide behind the "anti-censorship" excuse to create conditions that give "saying whatever I want" some really ignorant universal immunity. And this is precisely what we need to tighten up.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 6/20/2024, 11:14 AM
Could it be that the show is simply not good ? It's not like this is the only project fans have issues with, as outside the original trilogy, Star Wars is not very good.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/20/2024, 11:15 AM
@Th3Batman -

...so you didn't read the article

Whether a show is good or not should not enable death threats 🤦🏾
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 11:18 AM
@Th3Batman - I'm going to assume you just didn't read the article and aren't realyl deplorable enough to side with this stuff but to sum up what you missed...

People are harassing others and telling other fans to kill themselves over this. That's a pretty irrational response to "the show is simply not good"

Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 6/20/2024, 11:18 AM
@Vigor - This is not a Star Wars issue, it an entertainment issue. Not saying it's acceptable, just that it's been going on for years, but for some reason it's only an issue when it's related to certain projects.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 6/20/2024, 11:21 AM
@OleBobbyTiger - This is an issue that goes way beyond Star Wars. People have lost their minds over the past decade. Not saying this in a joking kind of way, I mean it literally, people have gone insane for some reason. Just ask anyone who works in retail or schools.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/20/2024, 11:23 AM
@Th3Batman - it's an issue no matter the project. But since star wars is one of the most popular and highest grossest franchises in history, the issue gets attention

It's well known actors tied to star wars are targeted pretty heavily.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 11:26 AM
@Th3Batman - Fiar but then are you insinuating they should get a hall pass on bullying and death threats because the show is not good?
JackBurton1
JackBurton1 - 6/20/2024, 11:26 AM
@Vigor - I mean if you go looking for nuts like that on social media you're going to find them.You have to be naive not to see why this is being made a story.They point out a few nuts on social media to guilt you into forgetting that a site pulled a shit move.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 6/20/2024, 11:26 AM
@Th3Batman - *fair
JackBurton1
JackBurton1 - 6/20/2024, 11:28 AM
@Th3Batman - Gina Carano got death threats....guess what sites didn't make an article about it?These people do this every damn time.lol
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