How Does THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Tie Into The Multiverse Saga And AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY? SPOILERS Follow

How Does THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Tie Into The Multiverse Saga And AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY? SPOILERS Follow

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is now playing in theaters, but how does the movie tie into the wider Multiverse Saga, other MCU TV shows and movies, and next year's Avengers: Doomsday? Find out here...

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By JoshWilding - Jul 24, 2025 02:07 PM EST
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The Fantastic Four: First Steps is a largely standalone story, set on Earth-828. Separate from the Sacred Timeline, the movie introduces Marvel's First Family without having to explain why they weren't around to help battle Thanos, for example. 

While we have Spider-Man: Brand New Day on the way next summer, that's expected to be a street-level story, meaning this reboot leads directly into the events of December 2026's Avengers: Doomsday

Mister Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, the Human Torch, and The Thing will be front and centre in that movie, and we're now taking a deep dive into all the ways The Fantastic Four: First Steps ties into the wider MCU and, more specifically, the Multiverse Saga and how it sets the stage for Avengers: Doomsday

You can find out more by clicking the "Next"/"View List" buttons below, but be warned that spoilers follow. 
 

4. The Bridge

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The Fantastic Four: First Steps hints at Reed's interest in parallel realities on at least a couple of occasions, and introduces one of his greatest inventions, "The Bridge." 

While it's used as a teleportation system in this movie, there are some vague insinuations that it could be used to travel between worlds, setting the stage for The Bridge to be a crucial part of Avengers: Doomsday

In the comics, Reed created it as a means of observing different worlds to learn how they had achieved peace. It ultimately led to the introduction of the Interdimensional Council of Reeds, and returned in the build to Secret Wars as a means of keeping an eye on Incursions. 

Whether we see any of that remains to be seen, but bet on this explaining how the team's spaceship travels to Earth-616. 
 

3. Galactus' Final Fate

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When Mister Fantastic's plan to move the Earth fails, he sends Galactus to the end of the universe, buying the Earth millions of years before the villain can potentially return to devour the planet. 

The Silver Surfer is responsible for sending Galactus through the portal opened by Marvel's First Family, meaning she's stuck right alongside him (and while she can fly on her board, the chances of Shalla-Bal reuniting with her family or the Human Torch appear slim). 

We're grateful to Marvel Studios for not killing the Devourer of Worlds, but The Fantastic Four: First Steps doesn't establish him as a Multiversal threat, though there might be something to Reed mentioning that he predates the Earth-828 universe. 

Still, with Galactus at the edge of the universe, is it possible for him to break the barrier between realities and perhaps travel to another, similar to Monica Rambeau in The Marvels?
 

2. The Power Cosmic

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In the comics, Franklin Richards is a mutant imbued with powers by his cosmically altered parents, Reed and Sue. His abilities are God-like, and he can rewrite and even create realities. As a baby on Earth-828, we watch as he manages to bring his mother back from the dead. 

The one big change made to Franklin in The Fantastic Four: First Steps is the fact that he specifically wields the Power Cosmic. That's the unlimited cosmic energy primarily used by Galactus and his Heralds, and this Franklin Variant is essentially made from the stuff. 

According to Galactus, this means the Fantastic Four's youngest member is destined to become the next Devourer of Worlds (on the page, it's similarly foretold that he will be the next "Galactus" in a future iteration of the Multiverse). 

Heading into Avengers: Doomsday, it seems obvious that Franklin's abilities will be key, perhaps explaining why they draw the attention of a certain Victor Von Doom...
 

1. Doctor Doom Arrives In The Baxter Building

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In The Fantastic Four: First Steps' mid-credits scene, Sue goes to get a book for her 4-year-old son and returns to find Doctor Doom kneeling in front of Franklin. He's removed his mask, but your guess is as good as ours when it comes to what Victor is up to. 

Is he trying to terrify Franklin or see if the boy can heal his disfigured face? And does this Doom Variant come from Earth-828 or another part of the Multiverse? These are questions we expect to be answered in Avengers: Doomsday

We'd like to think Doom does have a history with this iteration of the Fantastic Four, but when it comes to Franklin's involvement, we'd bet on Doom wanting to use—or steal—the Power Cosmic so he can "save" (and rule over) the Multiverse. 

This puts the Fantastic Four on a collision course with Doom heading into the next Avengers movie, and makes their battle with him very, very personal indeed...
 

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PedroSparkles
PedroSparkles - 7/24/2025, 2:36 PM
YASSSS QUEEEEN

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MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 7/24/2025, 2:47 PM
@PedroSparkles - User Comment Image
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/24/2025, 2:42 PM
Just an educated guess here but that Doom is most likely from 828 as the odds an alt reality one would know of his existance and find him whilst still a child.

Enough time has passed that word of him healing his mother will have become legend so a vain heavily scarred Doom is going to seek him out just for that if nothing else hence the mask off.

Reed by this time may have used his Bridge to view other universes and in doing so young Franklin may have seen Tony Stark and like his face thus instead of just healing the scars gives that visage to Doom thus revealing to him he is MORE than just a healer. Mum is going to be VERY angry thus Doom runs with the child straight through the Bridge whilst it is showing the Xmen universe disabling it whilst he does so thus they can't chase after him directly.

Add in everything else why the F4 don't just handle that themselves but that is why they go to 616, home of Stark's face etc.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/24/2025, 5:06 PM
@Apophis71 - best would have been just for Sue to say "Victor" and he then turns his head just a little bit to see little part of his face for a tease just to get people talk and speculate even more.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/24/2025, 2:44 PM
Is Josh the Bob Woodard of Comicbook journalism? Most likely not but oh boy i love lista...i even make some before Going shopping
MrMediocre
MrMediocre - 7/24/2025, 2:53 PM
"In the comics, Franklin Richards is a mutant"

No. He isn't. That got retconned a few years ago during the Krakoan Age, when Franklin's powers started burning out after remaking the multiverse, universe by universe, himself. He could no longer enter Krakoan warp gates, and Xavier said that he used his reality warping powers to make himself a mutant, because he thought they were cool as a kid, but Xavier said "[frick] that, phony. Go live with your human parents."

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J0RELLC00LJ
J0RELLC00LJ - 7/24/2025, 3:34 PM
@MrMediocre - I knew that was explained somewhere recently, thanks for posting. Now we'll see how MCU runs with it
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/24/2025, 4:06 PM
@MrMediocre - I mean the comics also retconned Wanda as not being a mutant fairly recently, or related to Magneto which was about the 4th or 5th change to who her parents were supposed to be (ie Magneto was at least the second retcon and wasn't her Dad at all initialy). As such unsure how many of those will stick now the Fox rights are no longer an issue thus the push to reduce how many were mutants and increase how many had powers by other means such as Inhumans has gone.

That and the MCU need not stick to a given version or retcon but all that said it is an understandable oversight if somebody doesn't know or forgets about a specific retcon. I will say that a prior article DID mention the retcon that he no longer is a mutant but didn't get into the details as the distinction between mutated/mutant/enhanced has oft got blurry at varying times with a lot theorising they all could basicaly be the same thing anyway. IE a theory goes that the same change to the same bit of protohumans genetic codes by Celestials means some will naturaly mutate with the formation of the Xgene or some can mutate under certain circumstances such as having a Inhuman gene due to Kree experimentation or simply being bitten by a radioctive Spider or whatever.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/24/2025, 2:53 PM
No Norrin Radd in Shalla's backstory. She was a single mother.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 7/24/2025, 2:57 PM
Watched a bootleg last night and I’m glad I didn’t pay to see it. It was bland with boring characters. Pedro SUCKED as Reed. CBMs have really set the bar low this year.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 7/24/2025, 4:05 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - the discourse around superhero movies is becoming really worrying, people seem to be happy with 'I didn't hate it' or 'its better than recent showings'. This is not good enough
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 7/24/2025, 4:59 PM
@SteviesRightFoo - seriously, it’s crazy that the best CBM this year for me was The Thunderbolts. I never would have imagined that.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/24/2025, 3:07 PM

Has Dr. Doom, crap Namor, or the pizza delivery boy boinked Sue yet?

Does poor beta Pedro have to put his name on a sign in sheet at her bedroom door?
Nolanite
Nolanite - 7/24/2025, 7:38 PM
@DocSpock -

All of these questions will be answered by Joshua Wilder in his next article and then the one after that one too

Nolanite out
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/24/2025, 3:17 PM
It's a 7/10. Peaks at the chase sequence through the wormhole which is great. They nerfed Reed hard and make him dumb (you lose me at Reed ever considering TELEPORTING EARTH in any way is a safe and sensible solution to anything). He doesn't utilize his powers to do anything creative in the film.....dude can stretch his arms and legs and that's all you get. Franklin focus was a letdown for me. They made Johnny a nerd which isn't inherently bad but coupled with Ben having nothing to do in the film....the third act lets the film down IMO. It's not at all BAD, but it's not much better than Thunderbolts either. Certainly not as good as Superman.

Seeing it with my dad tomorrow so they get more money from me regardless and we will see how my feelings on the film change post 2nd screening. I usually like films more my second go round.
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/24/2025, 4:54 PM
@McMurdo - teleporting the Earth is exactly the type of thing Reed Richards would come up with
Sinner
Sinner - 7/24/2025, 5:29 PM
@BigPhilbowski - Exactly. But these so called “fans” don’t know Reed like that.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 7/24/2025, 9:43 PM
@McMurdo - going to write a review. Im torn on the final score. The Rose Tico moment and ending kind of hosed it for me. You're right too. Reed pretty much uses his powers for navigation, thats it.

I though Shalla Bal was terrible and there was literally no reason story wise to make the switch. I though they would go some kind of maternal route but no. I dont even think the name Norrin was ever used. I thought Galactus was cool but in the daylight, the CGi stood out. He looked much better on his ship. Its not really a super hero movie. Its a Godzilla movie.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 7/25/2025, 3:08 AM
@McMurdo - Superman was nowhere near as good as this

Gunn had several good moments connected by an absolutely abysmal story with even worse CGI. While the world teleportation concept and Ben’s pigeonholing were the two lowest points of F4, the movie was leagues better than watching Superman get his arse kicked for 85% of his own movie with a Polkadot Man cucked retread taking 10 (apparently unnoticed) minutes to heal him enough to save his kid who was supposed to be heavily guarded at literal g&n-to-head precision

I’ll give you Superman being better than Man of Steel and Superman Returns but it was NOT a good movie and definitely inferior to F4
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/24/2025, 3:29 PM
Money saved by reading. Thanks.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/24/2025, 4:10 PM
@Nonameforme - IF you ever intended buying a ticket your either wouldn't have read this, wouldn't sway you decision to buy one at all or increase interest so I'd say you haven't saved any money reading just wasted your time and everyone elses posting a response to it, lol
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/24/2025, 4:41 PM
@Apophis71 - ok cool.
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/24/2025, 4:18 PM
Just saw it. Really enjoyed it. Galactus looks incredible. The CGI, bar a couple of shots of Reeds powers, is among the best the MCU have had. Johnny is the star of the movie.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 7/25/2025, 3:11 AM
@BigPhilbowski - agree

Gotta throw Galactus as the 2nd best. Was incredibly well done
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 7/24/2025, 4:23 PM
It felt like Marvel was so scared to mess the F4 up that they played extremely safe with this one. I really liked the movie but i feel like it could've been soo much more but Kevin Feige was scared to [frick] it up. They could've easily set Doom up, included Moloids, Johnny going supernova, Galactus not being just a gigant man walking arround and a few cameos could've been good such as Steve Rogers as the president and stuff like that.

Also Doom mask sucks, i really hope they change it.

Overall the movie itself is pretty good and i had a good time.
LeonNova
LeonNova - 7/24/2025, 10:28 PM
@ImNotaBot - Good thing you’re not on the writing team.
Huskers
Huskers - 7/24/2025, 4:33 PM
What’s the point of having a being as powerful as Franklin Richards. I mean, if anything goes wrong, can’t he always just fix it?!?!
joevseveryone
joevseveryone - 7/24/2025, 4:38 PM
I got my popcorn bucket!
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/24/2025, 4:56 PM
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i did it!
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PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 7/24/2025, 7:12 PM
Fantastic Four First Steps was like Star Trek The Motion Picture meets The Black Hole.

I have been saying that it was a bad sign that no great scenes have been released and there are none. In a very weird way, the movie is almost like one long scene. There are no payoffs. No real life. No joy. It has some tension. It is never terrible but like Thunderbolts it's sedated.

Not sure what it will make at the box office because there have been no recent movies I know of that are like it. But I can't imagine Gen Zers enjoying it.

I think Marvel's big problem is the insist on making these movies only for tie-ins and ads for more Marvel crap. The movie only exists to throw the FF & Franklin into Doomsday. So they force in things like God-Franklin that adds nothing enjoyable their movies.

They could've just made a fun Fantastic Four movie but not when the plot just sets up a tie-in. Fox's Fantastic Four movies did have high points this movie never reached.
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