THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS' Two Must-See Post-Credits Scenes Explained - SPOILERS

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS' Two Must-See Post-Credits Scenes Explained - SPOILERS

The Fantastic Four: First Steps has two post-credits scenes, and we're breaking down what happens in them. Both are a must-watch, but only one has consequences for the Marvel Cinematic Universe's future...

By JoshWilding - Jul 23, 2025 10:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

The Fantastic Four: First Steps has started arriving in theaters across the globe, and we're now taking a deep dive into the movie's post-credits scenes.

The mid-credits scene, directed by the Russo Brothers on the set of Avengers: Doomsday, is by far the most impactful of the two. It starts with a "Four Years Later" title card and finds Sue Storm in the Baxter Building with Franklin Richards. 

She's reading her son the story of The Very Hungry Caterpillar, though when she goes to find him another book, H.E.R.B.I.E. reveals that Franklin's favourite is Charles Darwin's The Origin of the Species. She's rather pick something a little more fun, but hears a strange noise from the sitting room and walks in to find a mysterious figure in a green cloak kneeling in front of her son. 

He appears to have lifted Franklin's hand to his face, and in this character's other hand, we see Doctor Doom's silver mask. Yes, it's Robert Downey Jr.'s Victor Von Doom, though what he wants from the youngest member of the Fantastic Four remains to be seen. He doesn't speak and his face isn't revealed.

The Fantastic Four: First Steps establishes Franklin as a being of immense power, so you can probably see how he might be of interest to a villain like Doctor Doom. A title card is then shown confirming that Marvel's First Family will return in Avengers: Doomsday.

In the post-credits scene, we see the intro for the Fantastic Four's in-universe cartoon. It includes appearances from comic-accurate villains like Red Ghost, Puppet Master, and Diablo, but is very much just a fun, throwaway sequence. 

Before that plays, a quote from Jack Kirby is shown on screen. "If you look at my characters, you will find me," it reads. "No matter what kind of character you create or assume, a little of yourself must remain there." The Fantastic Four's co-creator's birth date is then shown, confirming that Earth-828 was a homage to the legendary artist. 

The Doom reveal is bound to be the biggest talking point, though it leaves us with more questions than answers (for example, neither this stinger nor the movie itself explains the presence of the Excelsior spaceship in Thunderbolts*'s lengthy post-credits scene).

In our review of the movie, we concluded, "The Fantastic Four is an exceptional introduction to the MCU’s First Family, and thanks to a Jack Kirby-infused feel that’s unlike anything we’ve seen before, it proves to be a quintessential superhero movie with Marvel Studios at its brilliant best."

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is now playing in theaters. 

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noname
noname - 7/23/2025, 10:07 AM
Johnny Storm kisses a man in this movie and gets his back blown out
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 7/23/2025, 10:17 AM
@noname - Congrats on getting your fan fiction into the movie!
ComicPundit
ComicPundit - 7/23/2025, 10:24 AM
This film was inspired by the 1960's alright...smdh
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/23/2025, 10:24 AM
The fact that our first glimpse of Doom is without his mask on does not bode well.....
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/23/2025, 10:25 AM
@CorndogBurglar - it was actually not executed well imo. Just saw it btw
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/23/2025, 10:27 AM
@vectorsigma - Thats unfortunate. Doom shouldn't just be taking his mask off willy-nilly lol. He wears it for an actual reason. And if he's taking it off to talk to a baby then it likely means his face isnt disfigured.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/23/2025, 10:32 AM
@CorndogBurglar - i agree. Shouldve shown the face in full for a better effect

Im imagining the general audience who doesnt know who doom is or wasnt following the news in downey being confused on that scene.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/23/2025, 11:33 AM
@CorndogBurglar - If his face WASN'T disfigured would he even have a Mask?

One of the theories doing the rounds is he takes it off to try and get the boy to heal his scarred face and thus may be why he ends up looking like Tony even if pre-scars he never did.

Time will tell anyway.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/23/2025, 11:43 AM
@CorndogBurglar - he does, but his wasn't even disfigured from the start, just had a scar. He later disfigured his face himself later
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 7/23/2025, 12:43 PM
@CorndogBurglar - how do you know it’s all “Willy nilly” when this is literally his first time popping up? And none of us have seen doomsday
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2025, 2:25 PM
@CorndogBurglar - unless he's intentionally trying to scare Franklin lol
mountainman
mountainman - 7/23/2025, 10:26 AM
So Doom is just barely teased and not shown from the front with his mask on or speaks?

By the time Infinity War happened, Thanos had appeared in multiple teases in other movies. He had at least been established. We already knew his overarching goal of trying to assemble the infinity stones.

Doom really won’t be, other than this few second tease. Doomsday will have to spend a lot of time establishing him and his motives while balancing the largest cast ever, and dealing with an audience that will be more likely to not have seen all the projects these characters come from vs Infinity War where more of the characters are more known.

Good luck in pulling this off. It’s quite a gamble.
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 7/23/2025, 10:28 AM
@mountainman - There is no doubt they shit the bed in propelling the narrative forward in these last two phases, they absolutely have a lot of work ahead of them to make it work and to make it make sense.

I hope they pull it off but certainly have my doubts
mountainman
mountainman - 7/23/2025, 10:34 AM
@Wahhvacado - I really don’t think this will affect the box office of this movie. Its success will completely depend on the nostalgia, variants, large cast, and spectacle.

But it could impact how good of a movie it is.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/23/2025, 10:34 AM
@mountainman - execution was bad.

Shoyluldve either shown the full face with mask OR no mask and just show an unrecognizeable rdj

It just looks cheaply executed for me. Like a youtuber attached it, like that bad
mountainman
mountainman - 7/23/2025, 10:44 AM
@vectorsigma - I saw the image and the cloak didn’t look great, but sometimes that stuff looks better in live action.

Im curious to see if RDJ uses an Eastern European accent (and it actually sounds good) or if Doom is just going to sound like RDJ.
Matador
Matador - 7/23/2025, 10:56 AM
@mountainman - Good thing his got experience.

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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/23/2025, 10:57 AM
@mountainman - "Im curious to see..."

I might need another viewing to check this. I dont think it is rdj but i could be wrong. Im thinking if it is rdj, they will show his face and should be unrecognizeable.

I Imagine the confusion with the gen audience if its just a recognizeable rdj with a scar 😅
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/23/2025, 11:06 AM
@vectorsigma - they will be confused if they have not watched other stuff that have variants in them
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2025, 2:26 PM
@mountainman - all without a finished screenplay. Word is they are writing the third act on set.
GoldenBoy02
GoldenBoy02 - 7/23/2025, 10:33 AM
The more I think about it, the more I´m convinced that Dr. Doom is actually Kang (but with another face).
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/23/2025, 11:40 AM
@GoldenBoy02 - Kang IS sometimes said to have Doom as an ancestor, sometimes said to have Reed as an ancestor and sometimes both interestingly (the amount of generations between does mean two white Dudes can both have the same black great, great, great....great Grandson born around 1,000yrs after they died)
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/23/2025, 11:08 AM
Lolz, the 2nd one isnt a "must see" 😅

As for the first one, it seems marvel is afraid to commit and hid doom's face to have scenarios a-z prepared and see how the film performs.

It can still be not rdj and just another variant, someone suggested it might be kang (which is equally probable). As ive said scenarios a-z and marvel will decide.

I hate this marvel approach.
Skestra
Skestra - 7/23/2025, 11:42 AM
Premature ejaculation affects 1 out of 5 comic book site reviewers.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 7/23/2025, 12:46 PM
@Skestra - and 4 out of 5 readers of said sites…
Skestra
Skestra - 7/23/2025, 1:44 PM
@Deklipz - I can't help your mom is so hot.
GoldenBoy02
GoldenBoy02 - 7/23/2025, 12:08 PM
@Apophis71:

I know (hence my "suggestion").
And so does Kevin Feige.
Imagine that day, everyone involved meeting in a Conference Room in Hollywood to clean up the Mayors/Kang Mess and Feige telling the audiance about this Kang-Doom connection from the comic books?
The dimwits probably got all teary-eyed and even clapped?

Always good to know the old stuff.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/23/2025, 12:39 PM
@GoldenBoy02 - It is but when someone is a thousand years removed looking anything like the same is never a given IRL with how many genetics are in the mixer. I always found it a tad funny being honest more oft than not in such things they looked almost identical in such scenarios.

I don't/didn't realy care about looks with a character like Kang what he looked like as long as the acting skills and onscreen presence was on point. I appreciate for some they want as close in appearance as possible with the source but he wasn't one where I had any clear picture in my head at all. All I could picture was the helmet making him look blue and had too many blue aliens etc and odds they'd onscreen reference any distant relatives was slim :D

As to what went on behind the scenes discussing such things with Feige, who gives a frack as long as what we get is good, and for all the issues of Quantumania the casting of Major's in Kang wouldn't be in most top ten flaws and could even be on the pro list of some rather than longer con's list. On season one of Loki I thought he was fantastic as an almost Willy Wonka type take on one of Kangs variants, the Victor Timely version wasn't a fan, he over cooked that one.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2025, 2:28 PM
@TheFinestSmack - important for us to keep in mind as we slander her character in future talk backs. She clearly has SOME real sources
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 7/23/2025, 12:43 PM
So all those people bitching and whining about how the Thunderbolts credit scene defeated the point of this movie are obviously gonna change their tunes…..right?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2025, 2:29 PM
@CerealKiller1 - lol 😆
vegetaray
vegetaray - 7/23/2025, 12:54 PM
So Doom wants Franklin to heal his damaged face then? Because that’s what it seems like…
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/23/2025, 1:16 PM
Hollup, Franklin's favorite book is Origin of Species? I get that he's a mutant, but... are they merging his character with that of Valeria?

Secret Wars would be a perfect place to debut Valeria as Doom and Sue's daughter (like she was when she first appeared in the comics).
Also it would be neat if she was born on Battleworld since Sue was first pregnant with her during the original Secret Wars in 1984.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2025, 2:30 PM
@ObserverIO - from what ive read, they morphed the two into one.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 7/23/2025, 2:29 PM
It could stand to reason he wants Franklin to heal his face? Still stupid, but whatever. I’m excited.

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