MCU Rumor Roundup: The Council Of Reeds, Doom vs. Strange, And AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Cameos - SPOILERS

MCU Rumor Roundup: The Council Of Reeds, Doom vs. Strange, And AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Cameos - SPOILERS

In this latest MCU rumour roundup, we share intel on Avengers: Doomsday, Avengers: Secret Wars, Red Hulk's future, Ralph Bohner's return, Doctor Strange's Multiverse Saga role, and much more besides...

By JoshWilding - Sep 06, 2024 02:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars
Source: The Cosmic Circus

The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez has just dropped another wave of rumoured updates about the Multiverse Saga and there's an awful lot here for you to sink your teeth into, particularly when it comes to the Multiverse Saga's grand finale. 

However, we'll start with the next MCU project to hit our screens, Agatha All Along. Perez isn't willing to give much away but confirms we'll see Evan Peters' Ralph Bohner in the series and notes that his "very short appearance" will reveal "that the events of WandaVision left him very much affected."

On a larger scale, the scooper shares plenty of insights about the next Avengers movies, Doomsday and Secret Wars. Mentioning that Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom isn't from Earth-616, he adds that the plan is for Victor and Doctor Strange to share the screen.

Why? Well, we'd previously heard that the idea was for Kang to target the 616 Strange due to the threat his Variants have posted to the Multiverse. It now appears as if Doom, similarly determined to save reality in his own twisted manner, will do the same. 

Perez believes Doctor Strange 3 will be released before either one of the next Avengers movies because, "They have many points to cover, including Strange discovering the role he plays in the Multiverse Saga, how he reacts to it [and] how he and Clea develop a 'companionship.'"

"And ultimately, how he overcomes what he is 'destined' to be in order to become what he was always meant to be, 'the best of us,' the one who breaks away from the predestined path set for him and become the hero that ultimately saves the Multiverse."

As for Clea, "There have been multiple rumors about her specific role, however, ranging from being one of the Black Priests that recruits Strange into the order to another old rumor from a very old source that Clea may be one of the Black Swans assisting Doom."

He later says that Pedro Pascal's Avengers role as Mister Fantastic will be equivalent to Rocket's in Infinity War and Endgame. Marvel Studios is said to be keen on bringing Ioan Gruffudd back into the fold as Reed Richards for scenes revolving around the Council of Reeds. 

In terms of cameos, Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and Hugh Jackman may be a lock, as is Nic Cage's Ghost Rider. 

Regarding how Marvel Studios plans to tie everything together in such short order, several storylines and projects will carry over into the next Saga, including the formation of the Midnight Suns. However, some upcoming movies "have a level of interconnectivity that will bring the characters up to speed in time for the next Avengers films."

Those are Captain America: Brave New World, Thunderbolts*, The Fantastic Four: The First Steps, Ironheart, Spider-Man 4, Shang-Chi 2, and Vision. One plot thread which will be revisited in the Multiverse Saga is Kamala Khan's bangles. 

Finally, Perez has news on Red Hulk's MCU future. He teases, "So, this is a massive spoiler for Captain America: Brave New World...I can say it’ll be addressed at the end of the film, like post-credit scene territory."

As always, let us know your thoughts on this intel in the comments section below. 

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/6/2024, 2:06 PM
I just want to see Moon Knight, Daredevil, The Werewolf, Blade, and Ghost Rider assist in some capacity.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/6/2024, 2:12 PM
@SonOfAGif -
I want to see Howard the Duck and Man Thing guarding The Nexus of All Realities.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:16 PM
@SonOfAGif -

Sooooo... Midnight Sons, plus Matt?
mountainman
mountainman - 9/6/2024, 2:25 PM
@SonOfAGif - I would love the next Avengers movie to show street level heroes doing their thing separate from the big battle that is occurring. X-Men 97 finale showed this very well.

The first two Avenegrs movies showed them saving civilians which was really nice in my opinion. Wouldn’t mind getting that type of stuff again. Heroes do more than punch and fight.
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 9/6/2024, 2:44 PM
@Goldboink - With all the noise against MCU projects centered on tertiary characters and that seems unlikely. Let's face it the mob won. The days of "if they can make a talking raccoon and tree work they can adapt anything" are over.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/6/2024, 3:27 PM
@TheIronDuck - Deadpool and Wolverine disproved that, I think. It was as outlandish and over the top and it's awesome. The problem comes when they cram too many characters in with no real plan. With all this Multiverse stuff and both Howard and Man Thing existing in this universe I think it's likely at some point.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/6/2024, 3:54 PM
@Goldboink - And it should be Lucasfilm Howard!
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:16 PM
There's a very specific part of me feeling pleasant whenever I see Ioan Gruffud but not Miles Teller being teased to return as Reed.

I like this.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 2:18 PM
@DrReedRichards - I mean , there’s atleast some nostalgia for those story films considering the reception Evans Johnny Storm got in Deadpool & Wolverine while idk if that’s the case with Fant4stic (Teller could be a good Maker).

Wasn’t Gruffudd suppose to be Reed in MoM but for some reason couldn’t do it?
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:24 PM
@TheVisionary25 -

Teller is overrated as f#ck IMHO. Dude sharted his pants out of legit fear when up against an actually acting JK Simmons in Whiplash, and people mistook that legit fear as acting talent instead.

As for Gruffudd, I remember it being a rumor at some point, but never confirmed. The concept art of Krasinski's alternate suit certainly implied as much.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 2:37 PM
@DrReedRichards - I’m not a big fan of his either personally (though he did well in Maverick) but I just feel like he could have fit that role
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 9/6/2024, 2:16 PM
The title for Doctor Strange 3 will be "Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme" . Trust me bro
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 9/6/2024, 2:20 PM
Council Of Reeds seems like a bit of a stretch.


😏
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:26 PM
@DudeGuy -

Don't reed too much into it. 😏
GeekSmarts
GeekSmarts - 9/6/2024, 2:35 PM
@DrReedRichards - There are fantastic puns!
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 9/6/2024, 2:53 PM
@GeekSmarts - I guess comic puns don’t always have to be a Mr. Freeze THING
grif
grif - 9/6/2024, 2:20 PM
reboot and start from scratch. save nothing.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 9/6/2024, 2:22 PM
Cool. I can't wait until this [frick]ing multiverse bullshit is over.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/6/2024, 6:51 PM
@Izaizaiza -

A-MEN!!

FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/6/2024, 2:26 PM
If we get the Council of Reeds 🤩
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/6/2024, 2:28 PM
Wonder if the council of Reeds will be made up of everyone who was on the list?
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:31 PM
@MCUKnight11 -

Jon Hamm, Bill Hader, William Jackson Harper, Dev Patel, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Eddie Redmayne, John Krasinski, Ioan Gruffudd, you name it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 2:32 PM
@DrReedRichards - that would be cool

Put Matt Smith on there too as The Maker lol
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/6/2024, 2:33 PM
@DrReedRichards - But who’s playing swole Reed?

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MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/6/2024, 2:35 PM
@DrReedRichards - I don't recall the first 3 along with 5 & 6 being rumored.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:35 PM
@FireandBlood -

Star-Lord's dream dad and former Nick Fury:

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DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/6/2024, 2:36 PM
@MCUKnight11 -

No, you're right, they weren't. I just really really wanted them to. 😓
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/6/2024, 2:47 PM
@DrReedRichards -

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/6/2024, 3:56 PM
@DrReedRichards - Adam Driver.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 2:30 PM
Anyone think we could see “Ralph Bohner” in Wonder Man?.

He was an aspiring actor and if they go with the deleted scene , was also Jimmy Woo’s witness for some case and was in Westview for some witness protection program…

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Perhaps that case has been resolved now and he decides to go back to his life and act again where he comes across Trevor and Simon Williams.

It could also be a nice link between the latter and Wanda given their history in the comics.

Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/6/2024, 3:15 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Even if just a small cameo as an extra, putting his character name aside, it could be cool and maybe they could get him to change his stage name at least?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 3:24 PM
@Apophis71 - I think that’s his real name but he could get a stage name which could be a reference to a comic character etc.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/6/2024, 4:11 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Whichever way around as not sure TBH, if he ends up with an equity card using some obscure comicbook character name that sounds OK and only that used if/when he appears it would help :D
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/6/2024, 2:35 PM
Hope we get an MCU take on Dark Reign with the Dark Avengers with Ford taking the place of Osborn unless he's introduced soon.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/6/2024, 3:18 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Doubt Sony will allow Osborn used much if at all outside of Spider-man movies, he isn't like Fisk where Disney retains some rights in certain circumstances such as DD related. Using some other character to take on Norman's role in a story I could see however.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 9/6/2024, 2:36 PM
"Those are Captain America: Brave New World, Thunderbolts*, The Fantastic Four: The First Steps, Ironheart, Spider-Man 4, Shang-Chi 2, and Vision. One plot thread which will be revisited in the Multiverse Saga is Kamala Khan's bangles."

Ironheart has been complete for like 2 years. Its unlikely this is true. Shang Chi 2 hasn't even been green lit as far as I am aware. Hard to imagine they can just hammer that one out. Doctor Strange 3 isn't even announced. I doubt the bangles thing as well. No one watched anything Ms. Marvel was in and the Russo's aren't stupid.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 3:03 PM
That arc for Strange in a possible Doctor Strange 3 sounds pretty cool if true…

Also I like that we might get some interaction between RDJ’s Doom and Cumberbatch’s Strange considering the comic history of the characters aswell.

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Still holding out hope for a Pedro Reed interaction atleast though it might be best to save the interactions of the MCU versions of those 2 characters for a possible soft reboot post SW.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 9/6/2024, 3:31 PM
Doom vs strange = Daddy issues for Parker sounds great
TK420
TK420 - 9/6/2024, 6:08 PM
Council of Ricks > Council of Reeds.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/6/2024, 6:53 PM

Doctor Strange 3: The quest to get into Charlize Theron's panties.

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