BATMAN: UNLIMITED and DC SUPER FRIENDS -- DC Entertainment producing animated movies and shorts based on two upcoming toy lines.

BATMAN: UNLIMITED and DC SUPER FRIENDS -- DC Entertainment producing animated movies and shorts based on two upcoming toy lines.

We've seen this before...Entertainment properties based on toy lines. It's worked for Transformers for decades. GIJoe got it's start this way too. But it has only ever led to failure and derision when tried with DC Comic properties. Hit the jump to see what's in store for us this time.

Editorial Opinion
By ChrisStMartin - Jan 29, 2015 02:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: Variety

We've seen this before...Entertainment properties based on toy lines. It's worked for Transformers for decades. GIJoe got it's start this way too. But it has only ever led to failure and derision when tried with DC Comic properties.  And this afternoon, Variety reports that it's coming our way again starting with BATMAN: UNLIMITED.

Does anyone remember the Joel Shoemacher BATMAN films? Or the “Super-Powers Team: Galactic Guardians” cartoon show from the early 80s? “Galactic Guardians” was based on a Mattel toy line. But it wasn't renewed for a second season. You can find it on Amazon instant video if you search hard enough.

I know we'd all like to pretend that BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN & ROBIN never happened. We'd all like to wish those films away along with the T-X and the first two acts of TERMINATOR 3. But those train-wrecks of Bat-story-telling were designed around the toy lines. Chris O'Donnell (GRAYSON/ROBIN) even said so in interviews after the fact. And the films were terrible.

Some blame George Clooney. Some blame Joel Shoemacher. I'd say that in both cases the blame is misplaced. Both men have gone on to have brilliant careers after these Bat-debacles. I blame the studio executives for forcing the filmmakers to work backwards from the toys, designing vehicles, sets and plot around the toys.

And now DC Entertainment is trying it again, this time with animated properties. Have they completely lost their way over there at Warner Bros. Animation since forcing Bruce Timm out?

DC has a long and rich history of great flims and shows based on characters and story:  The Richard Donner Superman films, the Tim Burton Batman films, Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, Zack Snyder's comic-based projects, Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, Teen Titans (not Teen Titans Go!) and the Batman, Superman, Batman Beyond and Justice League cartoons from Bruce Timm, Dewayne McDuffy and James Tucker.  And recently ARROW, THE FLASH and GOTHAM.  These properties and their creators always, put story and character first.  Toy sets and action figures may or may not have come after, but these are the shows that live in our hearts as sterling examples of what DC's heroes can be.

If DC wants to add toy sales to its bottom-line, why not develop some toys, role-playing games, apparel, etc based on properties that are already successful like Greg Berlanti's shows, ARROW and THE FLASH on the CW?

Look, I don't blame the toy makers, the costumers, or the game designers. They all want to sell their products just like the writers on this website want to sell our content. It's worked somehow with Transformers and GI Joe. I don't know how. But designing the shows or movies around the toys has always been a colossal failure for DC. Maybe this time will be different. Let's hope.

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Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/29/2015, 3:21 PM
Now we finally know what Batman Unlimited is!!
Marshmallow
Marshmallow - 1/29/2015, 3:23 PM
Marshmallow is getting confused. How many DC universes are there now? Marshmallow getting tired of DC's doo-doo.

No, DC! That's a bad DC! Bad!! Bad DC!
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/29/2015, 3:23 PM
Why does Batman Unlimited have Green Arrow and the Flash instead of actual members of the Bat-family? I understand that they have well reviewed shows on the CW but stick with characters actually connected to Batman.
ChrisEl
ChrisEl - 1/29/2015, 3:25 PM
EWWWWWWWW. This DC animated films are getting worse and worse. I really miss the Pre-Justice-League-War stuff.
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 3:28 PM
Agreed, @ChrisEl, @darkkngiht2149, @LarryFlintVS, @Marshmallow

And the comics from before the "New-52." It's like they went all dark and serious and forgot about fun. Fun is what Berlanti productions has brought back to the CW-Verse with ARROW and FLASH.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/29/2015, 3:28 PM
I'll check out the Batman Unlimited series but I'm staying away from Super Friends (which is aimed at toddlers). Also, so people don't get confused, these are NOT part of the DC Animated Original Movies. These are separate films, like JLA: Adventures Trapped In Time.
MoodyMax
MoodyMax - 1/29/2015, 3:30 PM
Hey, a little more news, a little less opinion, okay?

You want to write an editorial, put it in the editorial section.
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 3:33 PM
@Blanka1212, good point. I'm new to this stie. I'll move it now.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 1/29/2015, 3:40 PM
I think the idea of having the Red Robin in a cartoon is cool, I'm just afraid this series won't be good. I would love if the reason Nightwing & Red Robin will be in the show is to get people ready for Zack Snyder's take on them. I also want to know will it be Barry or Wally as the Flash.

I hope in the future DC will let Greg Weisman & Brandon Vietti have another go at working with DC. Plus Michael Dante DiMartino & Bryan Konietzko have a shot at making DC cartoons too.
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 3:45 PM
@Fairyemblem92
JLA Adventures Trapped in Time is targeted at the 6 to 12-year-old audience. My fourteen-year-old son thought it was too childish when we watched it last year. The animation is as good as the old Justice League Unlimited show, but the story line is a bit simplified from that level of story-telling. It's better than most the Hannah-Barberra cartoons from the 70s in every possible way, but not quite as good as the Bruce Time / DeWayne McDuffy stories from the 90s up to a few years ago.
the
the - 1/29/2015, 3:45 PM
@Fairyemblem92 As long as you're expectations are set to Batman: The Brave and the Bold. The voice cast is > what we get in the New 52-inspired features.
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 4:04 PM
@MarkJulian

I have a 'new guy' question. Can I split the news part of this article off from the opinion part and post it separately, keeping both the news piece and the editorial?

If I did this, I would be taking the indented parts and what's above and rolling in some of the quotes from Warner Bros and toy company executives in the Variety article and putting a little bit of (more positive) commentary. The piece for news would probably be half the length of this and have about two-thirds news and one-third analysis. Then I would make sure I had appropriate teasers and photos for each. The piece in Editorials would be 90% commentary.

Just a new guy trying to find his way here,

Chris StMartin
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 4:07 PM
@LarryFlyntVS and @oMonRo, I agree with you
tokens
tokens - 1/29/2015, 4:20 PM
....im kinda excited for the super friends shorts...
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 1/29/2015, 4:44 PM
@ChrisStMartin You can do that. Just leave this in the news section and make a new article for the editorial portion.
ChrisStMartin
ChrisStMartin - 1/29/2015, 4:50 PM
@MarkJulian, thanks for the tip.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/29/2015, 5:08 PM
@Fairyemblem92
I wish I had an answer but I haven't watched it, I just know it was released. It didn't really catch my interest in the same way as the DC Animated Original Movies.
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