Batman 3: Catwoman pitch

Batman 3: Catwoman pitch

Okay, we want multiple characters in the next Batman movie. However we have to gage which would be more PRACTICAL, and even then how to PRACTICALY bring said character into the movie to make it work.

By TheSoulEater - Jan 23, 2009 12:01 AM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight Rises

Here's my theology behind this, CHRIS NOLAN IS A GENIUS, he puts the film/and fans before the characters themselves. This meaning, he won't put in a character unless he knows it can flow with the movie, or the movies' plot, or make sense. Evidence being this, with Batman begins we liked batman because of Batman, not because of his foes. While his foes were intriguing, and done SCARINGLY well, they weren't the reason we came back to see it, the origin of BATMAN was. In DareDevil, and the 90's batman, we saw the movies for these reasons: “Jack Nicholson, and Collin Pharel." Had they not been in it, it probably wouldn't have gone as well.

Chris Nolan didn't just put Two-Face in because of fan rave (AHEM!*Cough*
"Venom" *Cough*!) it was because he was sure that the guy who played him, and the way he was written in would satisfy the fans, as well as movie goers who didn't know the character. He put JOKER in the film not ONLY because of fan hype (Because I'd be kidding myself if I said he didn't do because of it)
but because he was confident that he could bring us a Joker who would literally MAKE The movie, bring us something US as an audience had never seen before. He wasn't going to throw such a long time idolized character as Joker out there just to satisfy fans, even if it was done decently (I hope your taking notes Sam Raimi!) He put him on the big screen because he knew Joker could be introduced FANTASTICLY, he's a major believer in "IF YOUR GONNA DO IT, DO IT RIGHT, AND DO IT REALLY, REALLY, WELL!)

This out of the way, we now are wondering "Who's batman going to go head to head with next?" There's no FOR CERTAIN foe hinted to like there was in Begins when Gordon showed batman the Joker calling card, only a few clues likened to "The armor could stop a cat." Knowing that Nolan only puts people in the movie if they'll WORK, the question is: “HOW can any of these Rogues WORK in this Nolanised batman universe?"

For Catwoman, here is my take. While she is the STAR ATTRACTION in eye candy when it comes to batman's comic saga, her character is minorly FAR fetched.

Meaning that while Batman, though completely fictional, and perhaps even impractical, his character IS logical. Even Joker who is a MAJOR nut, didn't come out with Flower squirters, or blimps of Joker gas, or even Joker gas AT ALL, he used Logical yet WACKY ploys in Nolan’s' LOGICAL universe. His mode of Crazy set enough tone in the movie to make up for ANY manor of Joker gadgets and tricks that may have been in the cartoons or Tim Burrton’s rendition.

In this batman movie Catwoman therefore CANNOT be some nice little clerk/
secretary type who gets pushed out a window, and is somehow revived by thousands of cat tongues. Nor can she be someone who uses her capital and wits JUST to save cats. While she can certainly have a LARGE affinity for cats, her drive shouldn't be to free tigers from zoo's.

Here's her motivation in a NOLANISED world, she is an AMAZINGLY good, amazingly SMART burglar. A female Bruce Wayne who uses HER mind for theft. Not just jewels either, but the REAL hard to get stuff, like the antiques of billionaires on their OWN islands, drives, computer data locked away in laser guarded facilities, sometimes even government secrets. The harder to get to, the better. She the best and only the best can hire her, her name is Selina Kyle. Now she didn't call herself Catwoman from the giddy up, she was simply a MASTER thief until some of the European papers started dubbing her that, (She started off stealing things in Europe). Because of her ego, she made SLIGHT alterations to her costume, *Cat ears* That way she could be KNOWN yet not BROADCASTED. The reason for this is because people like Joker, Scarecrow, and BATMAN are symbols, they HAVE to get their message out in ONE stroke, FEAR, ITIMADATION, LUNACY. Catwoman is an un-catchable thief, so her motivation shouldn't be "I WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW THE NAME OF CATWOMN" It should be "Catch me if you can, and I know you cant." because TO much publicity endangers your career if your going to be a STEALTHY thief, the perfect push and pull, "HERE I AM. HERE I'M NOT."

The best way to describe her will be to combine the cunning and skill of Vincent Cassel from OCEANS 12 with the sexiness and CLASS of Catherine Zeta Jones in ENTRAPMENT

Meaning THIS mixed with this



(Those are random Laser's by the way, not preprogramed so he has to adlib his dodges)







Her costume won't be altered (Save the ears) to complement the image of a CAT, but rather the tools she ALREADY uses are compared to that of a Cat by the public, (The cat claws, for climbing. The night goggles for night vision. And her acrobatic skills which are pretty near un matched, and cat-LIKE reflexes.) She EARNED the title of catwoman, instead of broad casting it the first time she showed herself. Her costume should again, be practical to someone who deals in espionage/burglary, not JUST leather to hug everywhere (Although by all means if it’s possible, DO IT!).

If anything, a cross between THIS and this

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Perhaps the same materials used to make some of batman's costume, MINUS the body armor for flexibility...rarrrr.


Not this, this is MTV

Catwoman - Halle Berry Pictures, Images and Photos



This is practical, SEXY criminal

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The plot setting, Batman has been fighting crime as much as he can from the other side of the law. The "Keep your eyes open for the bat, to arrest him." as turned into a Witch hunt for him. Headed by Harvey Bullock who never liked him to start with. He's also unsure about moving on, due to Rachel and all, and at one of his SAVE THE SPECIES parties for PR, he meets SELINA KY-AALE. She's supposedly used most of her family fortune to trade in good stock to raise money to help endangered creatures (While she CAN have feelings for these animals, this is more of a FRONT for her REAL passion, the thrill of the caper.)


Another new face blows into Gotham, that face being that of Oswald Coblepot. A (Supposedly) retired weapons dealer/manufacturer. Who has been donating quite a lot of money to fix Gotham up again, contributing to the police force and to the re-construction of buildings Joker has blown up. He's also matched Bruce in buying a restaurant right from under Bruce, calling it the ICEBURGE lounge. Batman OBVIOUSLY doesn't buy his good deeds, so he tries to snoop out information about him. At first look all that can be said about the eccentric billionaire is that he collects rare birds, is involved in organizations regarding rescuing animals off the street, and that his trade mark is n umbrella. (These are the only PENGUIN-ESQUE things about him, no weird laugh, no bird mobile) well that and its RUMORED that he's built a gun into his umbrella, for self defense of course *wink wink*

Batman discovers that Oswald is also involved with a man known as Lionel Daggot who is in the business of various Pharmaceutical companies in Gotham, as well as chemical plants SUPPOSEDLY for making creating vaccines. Discovering that some of the chemicals don't add up, and some are down right Hazardously illegal, batman goes out to "BORROW" a sample, and possibly gain files to the REAL research Penguins' doing.

At the same time, he's finding that someone is always one step ahead of him when trying to find evidence. This mysterious person being the Catwoman, Batman decides that he should find out WHO she is and why she's stealing these objects that may expose Coblepot's plan which I'll get into in another editorial. He determines she is an international thief who specializes in hard to get stuff, and that she probably followed Cobblepot FROM Europe, to pretend to steal from him while all the time, she is working for him to cover his tracks. She's the only one besides Batman who can get through the security systems to get the items, even when the systems are on high alert as to give authenticity to the theft. Of course SHE makes the evidence disappear, while Batman needs it for analysation.

Low and behold, in one of their many confrontations, both HER and Batman are nearly killed buy a hitman, (Deadshot) obviously Cobblepot having no more use for her has decided to TERMINATE their business relationship. (She's used to this sort of thing) Its discovered afterwards that she had in fact taken on another client who wants the SAME info that Cobblepot's been wanting out of the way. Meaning the reason a contract is out on HER now is because she was playing her FIRST client by taking another. She was planning to double cross him while HE was planning to double cross HER.


Because Batman can't/still won't overtake certain boundaries, and CATWOMAN can, eventually they work together to get a certain object or chemical, HE needs it to study it for evidence, and SHE'LL take the spoils at the end to deliver to her client. Her conversion to helping is also encompassed in this reveling evidence.


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Oswald Coblepot/The Penguin's plan is that of genocide, PROFITABLE genocide. He's funding up various pharmaceutical plants for the reason of making a toxin salvaged from some of CRANE'S toxin. There was too much potential in the chemicals just "LEFT BEHIND" not to be recycled for something more financially promising.

Likened to the bird flu, he plans to unleash a plague on Gotham that are carried by Raccoons, stray CATS and DOGS, but also BIRDS. The process will be gradual and seem like a bug that’s spreading, as not to row suspicion, and perhaps use the excuse of a MUTATION of the Crane's virus in water over time. When he's safely away and CLEARLY not involved in the creation of the cure, he'll have been buying stock in the vaccine that’s being developed going through the roof, as well as the insurance money from all the establishments he bought. He's confident that his plan will go unfettered because, so far all other evidence pointing towards the cure has been destroyed! Then as it turns out, Batman does something to the virus that makes it irrelevant.

The plot twist is that BATMAN/Bruce Wayne turns out to be Catwoman's other client all along, and had been playing both Penguin and Catwoman. He and Fox were busy making a counter, deactivate the Virus' effect while Batman pretended to be in the dark. There can be a very cool fight involving Batman and Catwoman working together to dodge the bullets of both Deadshot and Penguin. As long as it’s appropriately climatic.

This ends with gotham saved from the plague, and those who were already infected are being treated by a cure provided by WAYNE industries, While Daggot takes the fall and is consequently killed before making it to court, Cobblepot is free to scheme another day, only now he has it IN for Batman. So much so that the movie's end hints with him calling a professional to BREAK the batman.

Batman allows Catwoman to....Get a head start in running from justice in return for helping him, and SHE takes most of the blame for the robberies in upscale Gotham, ones she and HE committed

"After all, I have a reputation to keep. Can’t have YOU ruining that just so that the police can have another reason to chase you around town. For what it’s worth, I hope we can do this again. TAH"

Likened to the cartoon, she also gets away with a half the spoils of her nights work. Which as she looks them over are empty bags replaced with ONE bat a rang.


Now as for who can play Miss Kyle, the choices vary.

MY choice to play this kind off intelligent and sexy CAT WOMAN is Kate Beckinsale

kate beckinsdale Pictures, Images and Photos

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For Penguin, Phillip Sewmore Hoffman, or Paul Giamatti

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Daggot to be played by Gregory Itzin

Gregory Itzin - Presidente Charles Logan Pictures, Images and Photos


And Deadshot/Floyd Lawson to be played by Jeffry Donovan

Jeffrey Donovan Pictures, Images and Photos


He's good at playing a jerk who never breaks a sweat when shooting someone dead, and has the whole cocky DEADSHOT voice

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MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/23/2009, 7:54 AM
I like your character ideas, particularly Catwoman but im not sure about the story..the bird flu thing is far too similar to Batman Begins..but then the rest is cool and having Deadshot in there is a great idea.

Casting wise Hoffman or Giamati would both be great Penguins id say..Kate Beckinsale looks the part no doubt but shes lacking in the acting department imo
theFACE
theFACE - 1/23/2009, 8:28 AM
it wouldn't suprise me if they went for a relatively unknown actress to play catwoman, as much as i love kate beckinsale and believe me i do (Loved underworld), i just cant see her as catwoman. HAving said that i also didn't see Heath as the joker the first time i heard it, so who knows.

By the way i like the article, Deadshot, lovin the outside the box thinking.
Deadpoo1
Deadpoo1 - 1/23/2009, 2:16 PM
Burn Notice for Deadshot? I can actually see that, and most likely actor to be casted in your line up. you should give Goyer a call.
legder20
legder20 - 1/23/2009, 6:11 PM
I like the idea and the photo of batman and catwomen
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 1/23/2009, 7:05 PM
Oh she's quite compitent acting wise, as good as eckheart at any rate.

And I know the bird flu idea is kinda weak, but I was trying to think of something city scale for him to do, like he actually did on the show if I'm not mistaken. I have an entirely different plot with Penguin, riddler, and Bane which will be in the Other editorial I'll be making.
rushr
rushr - 1/24/2009, 1:15 PM
i love kate as catwoman idea. she does look the part. i also like hoffman as penguin but he seems unlikely. the story is alright but probaly would get me sleeping.....but i like your ideas dont get me wrong. i love the deadshot idea and the person you picked. nice article man.
rUsHr........
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 1/24/2009, 3:46 PM
Yeah, the angle I have with Catwoman NOT in it seems to be alot better, this is basicly going over how Catwoman would be portrayed rather then how the movie plot should go, the plots kinda thrown in there. I was basicly just trying to give you a taste of a Nolan Catwoman
llinformerll
llinformerll - 1/24/2009, 9:19 PM
they have to put deathstroke in the movie since johnny depp would rather act for Disney than Warner bros. as the riddler and your right catwoman should be in it as batman's love interest since that other chick died
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 1/24/2009, 11:07 PM
Rachel, yeah plus Kate and Bale could have really good chemsistry as Supermart, double identitied lovers.

Johnny'll act for who he wants to and feels like, He's playing John Dillinger in Public Enemies(with Christian bale as his crime rival) and it was because he said that some just sent him a letter asking if he'd play him, and he said. "Um...sure? Why not? It looks fun." The same way he talked about playing riddler maybe.
I still got my fingers crossed.

And yah, Deathstroke would be good, I think that Timmothy Oliphant could play him.
marshmallowyme
marshmallowyme - 1/25/2009, 4:41 AM
"I WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW THE NAME OF CATWOMN"

I lol'd
marshmallowyme
marshmallowyme - 1/25/2009, 4:54 AM
btw, Deathstroke is my favorite comic villian, but he simply isn't a Batman baddie. Yeah, they've had their encounters, and while I think they have the potential to be quite the pair, historically, they just haven't had that chemistry. Deathstroke will never be in a Batman movie, so why even bother fantasizing about it. It's a miracle he even made it into Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. I love love love the guy, but I'd rather see Bats face off against someone he has more of a connection/history with. Now I'd love to see Deathstroke face off against the New Teen Titans in an animated flick (tears for Judas Contract ;_;), or even star in his own live-action movie... That'd be dope...
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 1/25/2009, 5:11 PM
Thank you dude :D
Minxie
Minxie - 1/25/2009, 11:34 PM
I really like this Catwoman pitch. You sum up a lot my own thoughts about why Catwoman should/could be in Nolan's next Batman movie. I like the international, professional thief angle (I've also seen good suggestions where Selina Kyle is a successful businesswoman on the side, which is how she meets Bruce).
I agree with theFace who thinks the Catwoman role would probably go to a relatively unknown actress (my pick is Natalie Dormer).

I'm not too sure about the virus plot though. It almost seems like it has too high stakes, which is something I think Nolan wants to move away from because of what he said in an interview about the next movie being "a small, personal story filmed on a huge scale".

The lead villain I'm hoping for, rather, is Black Mask (but I do want Deadshot too as a secondary villain who works for BM - I like the Jeffrey Donovan choice, I can see that). I like Black Mask because of his uniquely being an enemy to Bruce AND Batman, and I can see there being a intriguing story about the interconnecting lives of Roman Sionis, Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne (the personal story I think Nolan is envisioning).

Anyway here's where I sum up my own hopes for Batman 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEsSczQmF0
WalkingPhoenix
WalkingPhoenix - 1/26/2009, 12:59 PM
Have a quick question about the Dark Knight. In the final scene when Gordan says to Batman, "5 people are dead at hands of Harvey Dent, two of them cops" who are the 5 people? I know about Officer Wertz at the Bar, Maroni's driver, it doesn't show if Maroni dies or not, and then the 1 cop at the hospital that the Joker shot (if that's considered 1 of his killings)
Joker1zero
Joker1zero - 1/26/2009, 2:37 PM
Nice pick for Deadshot. I always thought that Philip Seymour Hoffman would make a better Harvey Bullock though. I also love the idea of Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman.

PS: If you listen carefully in Batman Begins, they also allude to Two-Face being in the sequel. Near the end at Bruce's Birthday Party when Ra's Al Ghul shows up. Bruce pretends to be drunk to get all the people to leave for their own protection and he calls them all "Two-faced liars who smile through their teeth" or something like that. It's true, look it up.
Supremacy1
Supremacy1 - 1/26/2009, 3:54 PM
Soul Eater is the man! I wonder how the hell you came up wit the story? It is a great story even better pitch for the catwoman story even better selection for the role of catwoman I could see myself while being excited that they made the 3rd movie drooling and oggulating at the curves of beckinsale and possibly having a boner to boot. While a great story I agree with Rorschach01 about been there and done that also Minxie said that Nolan wanted a small personal story done on a grand scale. Nice casting all around though. KING!
Supremacy1
Supremacy1 - 1/26/2009, 3:56 PM
And where in [frick] did you get that Picture thats [frick]ING INCREDIBLE! ( The bats and cat pic )
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 1/26/2009, 6:37 PM
Natalie Dormer? Yeah, I could see her as Catwoman.

Good call.

She's got that FELINE quality in her eyes
Minxie
Minxie - 1/26/2009, 10:22 PM
^Her 'feline' eyes are one reason I like her for Catwoman, yeah :). But it's really her magnetism and allure that makes me like her the best out of all the other actress suggestions I've come across. Natalie is just so interesting looking, she grows on you the more you see her, and that's why I think she'd convincingly grab Bruce Wayne/Batman's attention. It'd be so easy to see why Catwoman/Selina fascinates him so much if Natalie was playing her.
nitemare
nitemare - 1/27/2009, 2:00 PM
yeah i can see the cat woman pitch....maybe the deathshot but u might have to work on the penguin story line...cool pic of batman and catwoman
Joker1zero
Joker1zero - 1/29/2009, 9:01 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperHeroStories/news/?a=6078
DarkAvengers
DarkAvengers - 2/16/2009, 8:26 PM
Great choice for Deadshot.
EmilySylvia
EmilySylvia - 2/17/2009, 8:53 AM
wow, your stuff is amazing, but it is my personal opinion, and nothing more, that catwoman should be re-invented for batman 3! i think she should be young(19)
have long blonde straight hair, and her costume should be silver, or black, with diamond inlays and accesories, while still featuring her needed burglary equipment. i disagree with the kate beckinsale idea, i feel it should be someone suprising, and unique, like paris hilton, lady gaga, heidi montag, or even kate moss or maybe a red-headed catwoman (debra messing). with all this said, my dream scenario would be for lady gaga to play catwoman, bringing her own style (eg hair and clothing) to the role, and the crew finding ways to incorporate her songs to the soundtrack, or have her write and sing a brand new one 4 the theme........
these are just my thoughts and opinion, please, agree if u wish, but dont comment negativly on me....
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 2/17/2009, 4:16 PM
Paris Hilton?!?
EmilySylvia
EmilySylvia - 2/18/2009, 12:13 PM
oh, nice reply lol
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 2/19/2009, 3:42 PM
Paris Hilton? as Catwoman???......
SydGirl
SydGirl - 3/10/2009, 12:51 AM
I really don't want Oswald Coblepot in the same film as catwoman. Been there and done that, let's give her a new villian to share the movie with. I do like your idea of Selina Kyle using her stolen wealth to enter gothams elite. It completely makes sense because if she's socializing with wealthy people she can figure out which of them she wants to steal from, as I'm sure many of them (especially men) would brag about their expensive and rare possessions to impress a beautiful woman.

I'd like her background to be more like the comics where she's orphaned and has to learn to steal to survive. I would love for them to bring Carmine Falcone back and have Selina discover she is his illegitimate daughter, which makes her despise him and the mob and steal from them because she believes she deserves the money.

Sorry but I don't want to see Kate Beckinsale as Selina Kyle. She doesn't have the right look or the acting abilities. I would love to see her played by Rachel Weisz. She has the looks and her acting skills are amazing. She could do catwoman justice.
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 3/20/2009, 10:32 PM
Rachel could do it, (And Kate Beckinsale is very good actress by the by) And I LOVE your spin to how Falcone is her illigitamate father!
Blackreverend
Blackreverend - 4/19/2009, 9:36 PM
I love your storyline and your cast. Deadshot is dead on and Phillip Sewmore Hoffman really gives us that "Nolan’s' LOGICAL feel" but Kate Beckinsale for Ms. Kyle does not. I believe JESSICA BIEL, Monica Bellucci or Charlize Theron would do better and just by curiosity I would like to see Elisha Cuthbert try the part also.
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 10/9/2010, 4:57 PM
Kate acts better then Elisha, and actualy i think that whats her name from inception would be better then either
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